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I just pre-ordered this.

TRACKLIST

DISC ONE: ALBUM RE-MASTERED
1. ROCK ROCK (TIL YOU DROP)
2. PHOTOGRAPH
3. STAGEFRIGHT
4. TOO LATE FOR LOVE
5. DIE HARD THE HUNTER
6. FOOLIN'
7. ROCK OF AGES
8. COMIN' UNDER FIRE
9. ACTION! NOT WORDS
10. BILLY'S GOT A GUN

DISC TWO: RARITIES
1. NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT - OUT-TAKE
2. UNTITLED 1 - DEMO
3. UNTITLED 2 - DEMO
4. UNTITLED 3 - DEMO
5. UNTITLED 4 - DEMO
6. UNTITLED 5 - DEMO
7. UNTITLED 6 - DEMO
8. ROCK ROCK TILL YOU DROP - DEMO
9. TOO LATE FOR LOVE - DEMO
10. COMIN' UNDER FIRE - DEMO
11. BILLY'S GOT A GUN - DEMO
12. NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT - DEMO
13. ROCK ROCK (TIL YOU DROP) - ROUGH MIX VERSION
14. PHOTOGRAPH - ROUGH MIX VERSION (UNFINISHED VOCAL)
15. STAGEFRIGHT - ROUGH MIX VERSION
16. TOO LATE FOR LOVE - ROUGH MIX VERSION
17. DIE HARD THE HUNTER - ROUGH MIX VERSION
18. FOOLIN' - ROUGH MIX VERSION
19. ROCK OF AGES - ROUGH MIX VERSION
20. COMIN' UNDER FIRE - ROUGH MIX VERSION
21. ACTION! NOT WORDS - ROUGH MIX VERSION (CHORUS ONLY)
22. BILLY'S GOT A GUN - ROUGH MIX VERSION

DISC THREE: LIVE WESTFALEN HALLE, DORTMUND, GERMANY
1. ROCK! ROCK! (TILL YOU DROP)
2. BILLY'S GOT A GUN
3. FOOLIN'
4. ROCK OF AGES
5. LET IT GO
6. WASTED

DISC FOUR: LIVE AT THE LA FORUM
1. ROCK! ROCK!! (TIL YOU DROP)
2. ROCK BRIGADE
3. HIGH AND DRY (SATURDAY NIGHT)
4. ANOTHER HIT AND RUN
5. BILLY'S GOT A GUN
6. MIRROR MIRROR (LOOK INTO MY EYES)
7. FOOLIN'
8. PHOTOGRAPH
9. ROCK OF AGES
10. BRINGING BACK THE HEARTACHE
11. SWITCH 625
12. LET IT GO
13. WASTED
14. STAGE FRIGHT
15. TRAVELLIN' BAND

BLU RAY: ATMOS / 5.1 / NEW
1. PYROMANIA - ATMOS MIX
2. ROCK ROCK (TIL YOU DROP)
3. PHOTOGRAPH
4. STAGEFRIGHT
5. TOO LATE FOR LOVE
6. DIE HARD THE HUNTER
7. FOOLIN'
8. ROCK OF AGES
9. COMIN' UNDER FIRE
10. ACTION! NOT WORDS
11. BILLY'S GOT A GUN

PYROMANIA - 5.1 MIX
1. ROCK ROCK (TIL YOU DROP)
2. PHOTOGRAPH
3. STAGEFRIGHT
4. TOO LATE FOR LOVE
5. DIE HARD THE HUNTER
6. FOOLIN'
7. ROCK OF AGES
8. COMIN' UNDER FIRE
9. ACTION! NOT WORDS
10. BILLY'S GOT A GUN

PYROMANIA - NEW STEREO MIX
1. ROCK ROCK (TIL YOU DROP)
2. PHOTOGRAPH
3. STAGEFRIGHT
4. TOO LATE FOR LOVE
5. DIE HARD THE HUNTER
6. FOOLIN'
7. ROCK OF AGES
8. COMIN' UNDER FIRE
9. ACTION! NOT WORDS
10. BILLY'S GOT A GUN

PYROMANIA - INSTRUMENTAL
1. ROCK ROCK (TIL YOU DROP)
2. PHOTOGRAPH
3. STAGEFRIGHT
4. TOO LATE FOR LOVE
5. DIE HARD THE HUNTER
6. FOOLIN'
7. ROCK OF AGES
8. COMIN' UNDER FIRE
9. ACTION! NOT WORDS
10. BILLY'S GOT A GUN

VIDEOS
1. PHOTOGRAPH - OFFICIAL VIDEO
2. ROCK OF AGES - OFFICIAL VIDEO
3. FOOLIN' - OFFICIAL VIDEO
4. TOO LATE FOR LOVE - OFFICIAL VIDEO / SUPERSONIC (HISTORIA)
5. ROCK! ROCK! (TILL YOU DROP) - OFFICIAL VIDEO / JAPANESE SHOW (HISTORIA)

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I bought a deluxe 2-CD version ten years ago, disc 2 has the LA Forum show, which is great.

This version is a bit too much, that Dortmund show only has a short set and I don't feel the need to listen to anything beyond that 11th song song I've never heard before.

That atmos version might be interesting. I'll have to get a new sound system though.

Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:34 am I bought a deluxe 2-CD version ten years ago, disc 2 has the LA Forum show, which is great.

This version is a bit too much, that Dortmund show only has a short set and I don't feel the need to listen to anything beyond that 11th song song I've never heard before.

Fully agree with all of this - except that Leppard killed it at Dortmund and I would like to have a full soundboard or video of that show. They played a 17 song headlining set there according to Setlist.fm. Ditto Judas Priest, one of their best sounding shows ever and only 6 or 7 songs out of 14 are out there. I had an audience recording of that Priest show 20+ years ago but lost it when a hard drive crashed. Anybody got it?

$100 is a pretty good price. And for $115, you can get it with a t-shirt that they're trying to get $35 for alone.

it's a steal

Will definitely consider just for the Atmos version. (then after laying out the $$ & getting the disc Apple Music streams it in Atmos)

Looks similar to the Whitesnake Boxed Sets Coverdale has been putting out the last few years. Seems like everyone is emptying out the closets for content.

Not saying that's a bad thing, but 100 bucks is way too high for this, especially when those Whitesnake sets go for between 60 and 80, depending on if it's on sale or not.

Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:34 am I bought a deluxe 2-CD version ten years ago, disc 2 has the LA Forum show, which is great.

This version is a bit too much, that Dortmund show only has a short set and I don't feel the need to listen to anything beyond that 11th song song I've never heard before.

I think you're right it being a bit too much. The rarities you might listen to only once or twice out of curiosity can probably found online. You already have the two discs that matter.

CrankerBait wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:14 am

Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:34 am I bought a deluxe 2-CD version ten years ago, disc 2 has the LA Forum show, which is great.

This version is a bit too much, that Dortmund show only has a short set and I don't feel the need to listen to anything beyond that 11th song song I've never heard before.

I think you're right it being a bit too much. The rarities you might listen to only once or twice out of curiosity can probably found online. You already have the two discs that matter.

I concur. It was the same with the kiss destroyer box set.

The creatures of the night box set was better

I wonder how much Pete Willis is on the demos

The Atmos mix has been up on Apple, Tidal and Amazon music for a while now I think.

rockker wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:45 pm I wonder how much Pete Willis is on the demos

Maybe I’m wrong, but seeing as that he is on the whole album, except for a few solos here and there, I’d say he’s on the all the demos

i'll have to pass on this one but this is my favorite album by def leppard.

This is all you need...

The Metallica box sets have all been around $230-$250. Right now you can get the Metallica Black Album box set on their website for $239 and it comes with:

"Limited edition deluxe numbered box set (with magnetic flap) of Metallica (Remastered) includes the album remastered on 180-gram double LP and CD, "Sad But True" picture disc, three live LPs, 14 CDs and six DVDs featuring unreleased content (live shows, rough mixes, demos, etc), MP3 download card of vinyl audio, four tour laminates, lanyard, three lithos, three guitar picks, lyric folder and sheets, and a 120-page hardcover book with never-before-seen photos + stories from those who were there."

So this Def Leppard box set is a 4 CDs and a Blu-Ray of some audio for $100. So yeah, that's way too much, especially since the Forum show was included with the 30th anniversary and is already available. Plus how many times does the same record need to be remastered? Is this a remaster of the remaster? The rough mixes and demos sound great but that's really all I'm interested in.

I got all the Sabbath box sets and I'm certain I never paid over $100 for any of them. And those are all like 5 or 6 vinyl records, not even CD's.

$100 for 4 Def Leppard CD's and a Blu-ray is nutso.

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:56 pm I got all the Sabbath box sets and I'm certain I never paid over $100 for any of them. And those are all like 5 or 6 vinyl records, not even CD's.

$100 for 4 Def Leppard CD's and a Blu-ray is nutso.

You should have seen how much the kiss box sets are!

I don't buy a lot of special edition's like this, but considering I still have the original CD I bought way back when, it made sense for me to pre-order it. I'm actually really looking forward to getting it.

Bands like The Cult and Whitesnake did a great job with their box sets. I pre-ordered the Rare Cult box set when it first came available and now you can't touch that box set for under $250. Savatage's Ultimate box set was interesting, but that is going for insane money. The Guns N Roses box sets aren't cheap either, UYI I & II Super Deluxe Edition is over $250 [it's 7 CD's and a Blu Ray] for the CD version and $500 for the 12 LP vinyl version. Or you can get the The Appetite For Destruction: Locked N’ Loaded box for almost $1000.

I wish these bands would have dug into their vaults decades ago and released this stuff then. Media was still a thing and those bands from the 70's, 80's and 90's could have made some decent money from those sales. If Van Halen would have released a killer 1984 box back in the 90's, it would have sold very well. These days it's not worth it to put it out. People are getting away from buying media these days and the cost of production just isn't worth it anymore.

Not as great as Hysteria that’s for sure
Not as great as Adrenalize that’s for sure

Photograph (Rough Mix Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGv0kIiYuRI

I'm not a huge demo/rough mix guy, but I prefer this over the album version. I will definitely listen to this one more than once.

Producer: Robert John "Mutt" Lange
Studio Personnel, Mixer, Asst. Recording Engineer: Nigel Green
Studio Personnel, Mixer: Mike Shipley
Associated Performer, Vocals: Joe Elliott
Associated Performer, Guitar: Stephen Maynard Clark
Associated Performer, Guitar: Phil Collen
Associated Performer, Guitar: Pete Willis
Associated Performer, Bass Guitar: Rick Savage
Associated Performer, Drums, Percussion: Rick Allen
Composer Lyricist: Robert John "Mutt" Lange
Composer Lyricist: Peter Andrew Willis
Composer Lyricist: Stephen Maynard Clark
Composer Lyricist: Richard Savage
Composer Lyricist: Joe Elliott

rockker wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:45 pm I wonder how much Pete Willis is on the demos

im pretty sure he is on all of em. he was on entire album

unclejoshc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:13 pm The Atmos mix has been up on Apple, Tidal and Amazon music for a while now I think.

Yep, you're right. I listened to some of the Atmos mix on Apple this weekend. Little less 'aggressive' than I would have expected, which normally I'd view as a good thing. Not overdone. I only listened to Photograph & Too Late For Love. Too Late does a really cool use of the height speakers with that whole intro kinda spinning around like you're about to ride Space Mountain. Wonder if the Atmos mix on the release will be the same? Probably, but maybe mixed by a different guy?

Whole Lotta Lep...

sicktwistedfreak wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:39 pm Photograph (Rough Mix Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGv0kIiYuRI

I'm not a huge demo/rough mix guy, but I prefer this over the album version. I will definitely listen to this one more than once.

The guitars and drums sound better, but the lack of the backing vocals in the chorus ("I don't want your . . .") create some noticeable dead space.