Frehley’s band sings 10,00 Volts with him, he still can’t keep up

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Frehley’s band sings 10,00 Volts with him, he still can’t keep up

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They rearranged it to have the band singing along with him to try to keep it on track and he still mangles it up. Second verse falls apart totally, drummer gives up singing it’s so bad.

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he couldnt hear the snare... lol

at this point he should just hire a singer. Hés known as the "guitarist" for Kiss not the singer anyway... let him do NY Groove and a few more and have the singer do the heavy lifting. Make for a more bearable show for all.
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Michael Hotts Ghost wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:40 pm he couldnt hear the snare... lol

at this point he should just hire a singer. Hés known as the "guitarist" for Kiss not the singer anyway... let him do NY Groove and a few more and have the singer do the heavy lifting. Make for a more bearable show for all.
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He’s either abusing pills or having some sort of cognitive decline going on. What a fucking mess.
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You can see his brain cant do 2 things at once anymore. He always comes in late to a line and leaves early, because he has to concentrate on the guitar.
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This is why some jobs should have mandatory retirement ages. You get to a certain age, and it just becomes dangerous. Not that it matters in this environment because worst case is that your music hero butchers a performance.
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HueyRamone wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:59 pm You can see his brain cant do 2 things at once anymore. He always comes in late to a line and leaves early, because he has to concentrate on the guitar.
There is no anymore in this. He has always been unable to do this.
He literally is unable to get to a mic in time for the first line in a song.....
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The band should fire him!
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This song is completely wasted on him. At least when Bach came out with something cool this year, he could still pull it off live.

I feel horrible for the rest of the guys in the band.
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Forget new material. Ace only functions on muscle memory with the old stuff. I think he might've played the solo for "Strutter" there.
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Mister Freeze wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:47 am Forget new material. Ace only functions on muscle memory with the old stuff.
I feel the same way about Vince Neil. He's been doing the same exact songs the same exact way for so many years. I think his brain goes soft sometimes. That's why he slurs and/or skips over words. I'm sure that's part of the reason why Motley use tracks live.

Guys like Paul Stanley and Bret Michaels certainly rely on muscle memory too. But they don't have the alcohol and drug abuse working against them.
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https://youtu.be/fuDb7LnfqA0?si=td3zUe2SNHT-aNgt

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If you watch right before he steps to the mic, the Vox start!

Operation: Backing Track

He's doing a blended track right off the cd.
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Ralph2 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:42 am If you watch right before he steps to the mic, the Vox start!

Operation: Backing Track

He's doing a blended track right off the cd.
Drummer looks like hes singing along for the whole thing. That might be why the vocals come in.
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HueyRamone wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:08 am
Ralph2 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:42 am If you watch right before he steps to the mic, the Vox start!

Operation: Backing Track

He's doing a blended track right off the cd.
Drummer looks like hes singing along for the whole thing. That might be why the vocals come in.
That’s definitely what it is.
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Ace shred his solo (like a 5 year old beginner): https://youtu.be/ljXrhCyjQMs?si=STBs1C1M9T9aFoGB&t=317
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TooOldToCare wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:21 pm Ace shred his solo (like a 5 year old beginner): https://youtu.be/ljXrhCyjQMs?si=STBs1C1M9T9aFoGB&t=317
You can actually see his tiny brain trying to remember something he actually knows how to play and voila, comes up with a snippet of a Zep riff...
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GreatWhiteSnake wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:20 pm
TooOldToCare wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:21 pm Ace shred his solo (like a 5 year old beginner): https://youtu.be/ljXrhCyjQMs?si=STBs1C1M9T9aFoGB&t=317
You can actually see his tiny brain trying to remember something he actually knows how to play and voila, comes up with a snippet of a Zep riff...
Despite the "cool rockstar of the 1970s" Ace may have looked to people, he was always a mediocre guitarist that has something right for KISS at the time. Fast forward 50 years, being lazy and any mental decline issues that may be involved, he sucks and looks to have no interest in performing but has to for a paycheck and to stay in favor with delusional fans. I have never seen a video, past or present, where he can jam with other bands or guitarists unless they happen to be playing a KISS tune. He does not have the ability, and never did, to improvise. Although nowadays, almost every song is an improv.
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TooOldToCare wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:21 pm Ace shred his solo (like a 5 year old beginner): https://youtu.be/ljXrhCyjQMs?si=STBs1C1M9T9aFoGB&t=317
I don’t think Ace even knows what shredding is and really never did.
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Suzi Quattro has hit rock bottom if she is playing rhythm with Ace Frehley.3
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Anthrax442 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:19 am This song is completely wasted on him.
Perhaps it is not the song that is wasted.
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He's hitting my area soon and, despite being a lifelong kisstard, I didn't buy tickets. Who the hell wants to see this lazy hack's shitshow?

Unfortunately, a friend "surprised" me with tickets and now I'm going to have to be subjected to this depressing spectacle. My friend is excited to go but he has no idea what to expect. I'm going to have to have a talk with him about it at dinner before the show.
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TooOldToCare wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:21 pm Ace shred his solo (like a 5 year old beginner): https://youtu.be/ljXrhCyjQMs?si=STBs1C1M9T9aFoGB&t=317
It's so blatantly obvious that his GF is dressing him. Everything about Ace is pathetic.
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couldnt get past 30 seconds
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Michael Hotts Ghost wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:40 pm he couldnt hear the snare... lol

at this point he should just hire a singer. Hés known as the "guitarist" for Kiss not the singer anyway... let him do NY Groove and a few more and have the singer do the heavy lifting. Make for a more bearable show for all.
His guarantee would probably drop by a third if not half entirely.

Same reason Don Felder learned to somewhat sing the Eagles tunes even though he's not a singer.

The whole dynamic of promoting the act changes if you bring in someone else - even if it would be a huge improvement musically.
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FreddyFender wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:36 am Same reason Don Felder learned to somewhat sing the Eagles tunes even though he's not a singer.
Don Felder lipsynches every single word.

https://youtu.be/7n8fZQ4inEg?si=TbaZKGUeEhFU7PF_

I know the boomers are too stupid to notice it but I would have thought anyone on Sludge would spot it pretty quickly.
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LurkingAtWork wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:59 am He's hitting my area soon and, despite being a lifelong kisstard, I didn't buy tickets. Who the hell wants to see this lazy hack's shitshow?

Unfortunately, a friend "surprised" me with tickets and now I'm going to have to be subjected to this depressing spectacle. My friend is excited to go but he has no idea what to expect. I'm going to have to have a talk with him about it at dinner before the show.
I saw Ace back in 2008 and he was terrific. You couldn't pay me to see this current show
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BernieTaupson wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:35 pm
FreddyFender wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:36 am Same reason Don Felder learned to somewhat sing the Eagles tunes even though he's not a singer.
Don Felder lipsynches every single word.

https://youtu.be/7n8fZQ4inEg?si=TbaZKGUeEhFU7PF_

I know the boomers are too stupid to notice it but I would have thought anyone on Sludge would spot it pretty quickly.
The point clearly went over your head here.
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Clearly.

If the joke was “he’s not a singer so he “taught” himself to sing ha ha, because it’s lip synch” then it doesn’t work because he did lead vocals on Visions on One Of These Nights. He can sing fine. And I bet his rejected Victim of Love vocals weren’t too bad either.
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