Kiss - You Wanted The Best... Question
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Kiss - You Wanted The Best... Question
I know this was released to coincide with the Alive Worldwide tour, but the 4 unreleased tracks don't sound like 70's recordings to my ear. I just listened to Take Me, and it sure sounds like Paul's voice in the 90's as opposed to the 70's. His voice seemed a lot more raw and aggressive in the early days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXKFOH0 ... a2UgbWU%3D
"Take Me" Sean Delaney, Stanley previously unreleased, recorded in Los Angeles, California in 1977
Just wondering if anyone else knew anything more about the 4 unreleased live recordings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXKFOH0 ... a2UgbWU%3D
"Take Me" Sean Delaney, Stanley previously unreleased, recorded in Los Angeles, California in 1977
Just wondering if anyone else knew anything more about the 4 unreleased live recordings.
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I mean, old news....but yah, the idea of them being 'lost' recordings from the 70's was total horseshit.
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Re: Kiss - You Wanted The Best... Question
They never even played Two Timer live in the 70s. Total new recording.
Let Me Know is legit with new 1996 Gene vocals, the Paul vocals are vintage.
Room Service is a 75 sound check with new 1996 Paul vocals.
Take Me is from Japan 77 with new 1996 Paul vocals.
Let Me Know is legit with new 1996 Gene vocals, the Paul vocals are vintage.
Room Service is a 75 sound check with new 1996 Paul vocals.
Take Me is from Japan 77 with new 1996 Paul vocals.
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From what I remember the vocals on the “unreleased” tracks are from the 90’s … KISS thought fans were so stupid we’d fall it but we didn’t.
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Re: Kiss - You Wanted The Best... Question
Huh. The shit you learn almost 30 years later. I wasn't a big enough fan to care that they were faked, so I certainly wasn't listening hard enough to notice. Not even sure when the last time I listened to those tracks was, I know I had that CD when it was released, but sold it off with a bunch of other CDs in the early 2000s and just recently rebought it cheap.
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Re: Kiss - You Wanted The Best... Question
Pretty sure all the guitar signals were run through new updated guitar rigs too.
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I never understood why they pulled that, would have been way better : NEW 1996 RE-RECORDINGS or something like that but they tried to fool us and .....they failed
they even denied it on goldmine magazine!
they even denied it on goldmine magazine!
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Yeah pretty well known they were re-recorded. I like them though! Prefer them more than firehouse on alive.
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The worst part about the album is the jay leno interview.
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Kiss has rarely went wrong betting on their fans stupidity.
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BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:32 am Room Service is a 75 sound check with new 1996 Paul vocals.
I recall this one being the most obvious giveaway. Sounded nothing like '70s Paul.
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Re: Kiss - You Wanted The Best... Question
Every KISS interview since Gene's appearance on the Mike Douglas Show has been the same. As a kid, just seeing them on TV was cool because of the mystique. As an adult, they have said the same bullshit for 45+ years. The Jay Leno bit was horrendous.
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At least they were somewhat humble in that interview after some lean years. He was always an unfunny nerd but after 97 Gene just turned into an insufferable blowhard asshole.
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"Two Timer" was kind of the giveaway that these were going to be fakes when the tracklisting was announced as most of us knew they had never played it. They could've used something like "Hooligan" or "Do You Love Me" and made it more believable.BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:32 am They never even played Two Timer live in the 70s. Total new recording.
Let Me Know is legit with new 1996 Gene vocals, the Paul vocals are vintage.
Room Service is a 75 sound check with new 1996 Paul vocals.
Take Me is from Japan 77 with new 1996 Paul vocals.
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Re: Kiss - You Wanted The Best... Question
Totally. NY Groove from Australia 1980 was on the Japanese version, they could have also used that.
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And that rip straight from the Innersanctum video really helped illustrate how doctored up the other "lost" tracks were. I liked the concept of an album that was essentially a best of Alive! and Alive II. It helped with the whole mythological might and magic of OG KISS that summer but like so many other KISS projects, it got screwed up. Leno interview!? What!?BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 4:05 pm Totally. NY Groove from Australia 1980 was on the Japanese version, they could have also used that.
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Since the Revenge/COS era, KISS has done nothing of substance besides raking in undeserved cash from touring and merchandise. I saw a couple of reunion shows and one or two more after Singer re-upped. Aside from the over-touring, think about any good output. There is none. KISS was finished after Revenge, but You Wanted the Best, and the reunion tour and tours through 2023 were based solely on nostalgia hype. I cannot give an ounce of love to Thonic Boom and Monther. Both shit.
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Re: Kiss - You Wanted The Best... Question
KISSology series was good output.
And unplugged is a great album.
Although that is based on their older music of course.
And unplugged is a great album.
Although that is based on their older music of course.
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True. He no longer sounded "black."Mister Freeze wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:35 amBernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:32 am Room Service is a 75 sound check with new 1996 Paul vocals.
I recall this one being the most obvious giveaway. Sounded nothing like '70s Paul.
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We're on the same page. I've said this for years. The retromachine started as soon as the Revenge tour ended. Alive III/Konfidential, KISS My Ass, Unplugged... all of it was geared toward the reunion. Revenge was indeed the last KISS record.TooOldToCare wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 3:19 am Since the Revenge/COS era, KISS has done nothing of substance besides raking in undeserved cash from touring and merchandise. I saw a couple of reunion shows and one or two more after Singer re-upped. Aside from the over-touring, think about any good output. There is none. KISS was finished after Revenge, but You Wanted the Best, and the reunion tour and tours through 2023 were based solely on nostalgia hype. I cannot give an ounce of love to Thonic Boom and Monther. Both shit.
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I enjoyed the Unplugged televised show but rarely played the CD. Then again, it was 1995 or 4 (who cares?), and there was little to no internet action happening. Seeing them on TV was still kind of special, especially MTV, which gave them no love except for that Dial-in countdown show. I remember Tears making the top 10 in the mid-80s for a while. I had no interest in their convention tour. Yes, Revenge was the end. I don't mind Jungle and a few of the heavier/grungier songs on CoS. The best thing since Revenge has been Kulick's band on the cruises. I won't spend a dime to go ON the cruise, but the YT videos are good.KISStian wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 10:58 amWe're on the same page. I've said this for years. The retromachine started as soon as the Revenge tour ended. Alive III/Konfidential, KISS My Ass, Unplugged... all of it was geared toward the reunion. Revenge was indeed the last KISS record.TooOldToCare wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 3:19 am Since the Revenge/COS era, KISS has done nothing of substance besides raking in undeserved cash from touring and merchandise. I saw a couple of reunion shows and one or two more after Singer re-upped. Aside from the over-touring, think about any good output. There is none. KISS was finished after Revenge, but You Wanted the Best, and the reunion tour and tours through 2023 were based solely on nostalgia hype. I cannot give an ounce of love to Thonic Boom and Monther. Both shit.
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MTV made Unplugged an event. They aired KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park in the lead up!TooOldToCare wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 11:11 amI enjoyed the Unplugged televised show but rarely played the CD. Then again, it was 1995 or 4 (who cares?), and there was little to no internet action happening. Seeing them on TV was still kind of special, especially MTV, which gave them no love except for that Dial-in countdown show. I remember Tears making the top 10 in the mid-80s for a while. I had no interest in their convention tour. Yes, Revenge was the end. I don't mind Jungle and a few of the heavier/grungier songs on CoS. The best thing since Revenge has been Kulick's band on the cruises. I won't spend a dime to go ON the cruise, but the YT videos are good.KISStian wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 10:58 amWe're on the same page. I've said this for years. The retromachine started as soon as the Revenge tour ended. Alive III/Konfidential, KISS My Ass, Unplugged... all of it was geared toward the reunion. Revenge was indeed the last KISS record.TooOldToCare wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 3:19 am Since the Revenge/COS era, KISS has done nothing of substance besides raking in undeserved cash from touring and merchandise. I saw a couple of reunion shows and one or two more after Singer re-upped. Aside from the over-touring, think about any good output. There is none. KISS was finished after Revenge, but You Wanted the Best, and the reunion tour and tours through 2023 were based solely on nostalgia hype. I cannot give an ounce of love to Thonic Boom and Monther. Both shit.