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Sure, Steve is a douche with a bad, bed wetter haircut that makes him look Joey Tribbiani’s hand twin but damn that guy can play. He always could. Lots of jealous old ladies on here,

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Do CC Deville vs. Jimmy Page next
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he should join Gene's band
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No one who worked on this should be considered "better".

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Steve Brown smiles a lot and has better skin than Ace Frehley.
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Is or was Steve shagging Ace’s now ex?
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BernieTaupson wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 5:25 pm I always wondered that. She was the one who introduced them, she knew Steve before Ace.
Steve set up a Honey Pot?!?
Pretty slick.
Is that how he got into Def Lep?
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He might be “better” than Ace just like a million other guys down at Guitar Center, but he isn’t Ace Fucking Frehley and yes, that matters. WGAS? WGAF?
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Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 5:45 pm He might be “better” than Ace just like a million other guys down at Guitar Center, but he isn’t Ace Fucking Frehley and yes, that matters. WGAS? WGAF?
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Corey's Guitar Solo wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:19 am Not much of a competition here. An unflushed toilet is better than Ace these days.

Does Ace have a new batshit insane "fiancée" yet? He seems well due for one.
I’m an Ace fan but he’s one guy who was always overrated af. Frehley’s Comet was incredibly underwhelming.

Ace said it best when summing up his success: “I stepped in dog shit”

Steve was always really good. I could list about ten players that he’s better than.
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:32 pm
Corey's Guitar Solo wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:19 am Not much of a competition here. An unflushed toilet is better than Ace these days.

Does Ace have a new batshit insane "fiancée" yet? He seems well due for one.
I’m an Ace fan but he’s one guy who was always overrated af. Frehley’s Comet was incredibly underwhelming.

Ace said it best when summing up his success: “I stepped in dog shit”

Steve was always really good. I could list about ten players that he’s better than.
Ace’s phrasing was top notch and his solos were a highlight of every KISS song. He’s not overrated if he’s rated properly. He was no shredder but he didn’t need to be. His simple, memorable solos were perfect for KISS and no one else was ever able to being what he brought to the band.
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aznsquirt wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:30 am Do CC Deville vs. Jimmy Page next
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Nah, Jimmy is way better than Ace ever was. He’s got slop but not like Ace. Plus Ace never wrote or produced like Jimmy could. For all his faults, Jimmy is the dude. Slash and Tracii trash Ace too. They are light years better

I love CC. He’s a favorite of mine but he doesn’t rank very high. Bottom line, he has his strengths, his negatives outweighed them for most of his career, until he got sober. It’s been great to see him sober all these years and mostly thriving. Sam 7 was a good record. I like his playing a lot now. Back in the day not so much, I was still a fan but he was a shit show.

Trixter were cheesy but they were fun and Steve had some shit. His countrified blues licks in Give It Too Me Good always caught my ear. Def Leppard and Danger Danger called him. That’s not light company. Viv is a monster, always was and Andy Timmons and Tony Bruno are phenomenal players.

I would put Steve above CC, Phil Collen, the Warrant guys, Tim Kelly, KK Downing, Vinnie Vincent, Jeff LeBar and a number of other 80s guys. I know I’ll get shit for it but I don’t care. Steve was a boss on that guitar
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VinnieVincentsVag wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:31 pm
Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 5:45 pm He might be “better” than Ace just like a million other guys down at Guitar Center, but he isn’t Ace Fucking Frehley and yes, that matters. WGAS? WGAF?
Obviously
He doesn’t need to be. He’s Steve Fucking Brown.


I remember spending most of the 80s missing Ace in KISS and desperately wanting a reunion. I liked Bruce and was a fan but he wasn’t “Ace Fucking Frehley.” Then the Reunion happened and I saw how underwhelming they were.


KISS fans are dumb. They love clowns.





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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:06 pm
VinnieVincentsVag wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:31 pm
Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 5:45 pm He might be “better” than Ace just like a million other guys down at Guitar Center, but he isn’t Ace Fucking Frehley and yes, that matters. WGAS? WGAF?
Obviously
He doesn’t need to be. He’s Steve Fucking Brown.


I remember spending most of the 80s missing Ace in KISS and desperately wanting a reunion. I liked Bruce and was a fan but he wasn’t “Ace Fucking Frehley.” Then the Reunion happened and I saw how underwhelming they were.


KISS fans are dumb. They love clowns.





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Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:56 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:32 pm
Corey's Guitar Solo wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:19 am Not much of a competition here. An unflushed toilet is better than Ace these days.

Does Ace have a new batshit insane "fiancée" yet? He seems well due for one.
I’m an Ace fan but he’s one guy who was always overrated af. Frehley’s Comet was incredibly underwhelming.

Ace said it best when summing up his success: “I stepped in dog shit”

Steve was always really good. I could list about ten players that he’s better than.
Ace’s phrasing was top notch and his solos were a highlight of every KISS song. He’s not overrated if he’s rated properly. He was no shredder but he didn’t need to be. His simple, memorable solos were perfect for KISS and no one else was ever able to being what he brought to the band.

I find both him and Vinnie overrated.

Guys like Jimmy Page, Joe Walsh, Slash and even Tracii Guns are much more memorable and exciting,

If Bob Kulick didn’t have such a rebellious hairline in 1972 he would’ve gotten the gig. His solos on Side IV of A2 are killer. His playing on Paul’s 78, Unmasked and Killers is awesome too. Dollars to Donuts that’s him on Under The Rose.
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:15 pm
Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:56 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:32 pm

I’m an Ace fan but he’s one guy who was always overrated af. Frehley’s Comet was incredibly underwhelming.

Ace said it best when summing up his success: “I stepped in dog shit”

Steve was always really good. I could list about ten players that he’s better than.
Ace’s phrasing was top notch and his solos were a highlight of every KISS song. He’s not overrated if he’s rated properly. He was no shredder but he didn’t need to be. His simple, memorable solos were perfect for KISS and no one else was ever able to being what he brought to the band.

I find both him and Vinnie overrated.

Guys like Jimmy Page, Joe Walsh, Slash and even Tracii Guns are much more memorable and exciting,

If Bob Kulick didn’t have such a rebellious hairline in 1972 he would’ve gotten the gig. His solos on Side IV of A2 are killer. His playing on Paul’s 78, Unmasked and Killers is awesome too. Dollars to Donuts that’s him on Under The Rose.
Sorry, but Ace has swagger and brought a lot more than just his killer solos to the original band. That’s why no one could bring the magic like he did. Bob K in KISS would have been highly forgettable just like Bob K was in everything else. Coming in and mimicking Ace for a couple songs is not a big deal. He was a great player but KISS needed a LOT more than great players to create the magic they had in the ‘70s. For all Bob played on most people only know him as Ace’s full-in.

Everyone who grew up a fan back then knows how memorable and cool Ace’s solos were. Bob does some great licks on A2, but his solos just aren’t as memorable as Ace’s solos were.

p.s. Slash? :lol: sloppiest, shittiest player of that entire genre. But brought the “cool”, I suppose. Mediocre to terrible guitarist compared to just about anyone who ever had a record deal.
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Name one guitarist that has been influenced by Steve Brown.
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Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:33 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:15 pm
Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:56 pm

Ace’s phrasing was top notch and his solos were a highlight of every KISS song. He’s not overrated if he’s rated properly. He was no shredder but he didn’t need to be. His simple, memorable solos were perfect for KISS and no one else was ever able to being what he brought to the band.

I find both him and Vinnie overrated.

Guys like Jimmy Page, Joe Walsh, Slash and even Tracii Guns are much more memorable and exciting,

If Bob Kulick didn’t have such a rebellious hairline in 1972 he would’ve gotten the gig. His solos on Side IV of A2 are killer. His playing on Paul’s 78, Unmasked and Killers is awesome too. Dollars to Donuts that’s him on Under The Rose.
Sorry, but Ace has swagger and brought a lot more than just his killer solos to the original band. That’s why no one could bring the magic like he did. Bob K in KISS would have been highly forgettable just like Bob K was in everything else. Coming in and mimicking Ace for a couple songs is not a big deal. He was a great player but KISS needed a LOT more than great players to create the magic they had in the ‘70s. For all Bob played on most people only know him as Ace’s full-in.

Everyone who grew up a fan back then knows how memorable and cool Ace’s solos were. Bob does some great licks on A2, but his solos just aren’t as memorable as Ace’s solos were.

p.s. Slash? :lol: sloppiest, shittiest player of that entire genre. But brought the “cool”, I suppose. Mediocre to terrible guitarist compared to just about anyone who ever had a record deal.

I’ve never seen Bob perform live. But I’m sure his bald head has something to do with your comments above. Bob was a great guitarist.

I can put on clown makeup and act like an idiot too while playing rudimentary pentatonic scales. Just look at Vinnie. He did it. One could say he had “swagger” too. I’d prefer one of the Spruce Bros over him or Steve Farris.



Ace’s pathetic solo career speaks for itself. His solo career is a shining example of how other people have had to carry him throughout his career and life.

You think Slash is the worst and Ace is the best? Kisstards :lol:
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BernieTaupson wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:49 pm
Zinny wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:40 pm Name one guitarist that has been influenced by Steve Brown.
Ace Frehley.
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Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:08 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:06 pm
VinnieVincentsVag wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:31 pm

Obviously
He doesn’t need to be. He’s Steve Fucking Brown.


I remember spending most of the 80s missing Ace in KISS and desperately wanting a reunion. I liked Bruce and was a fan but he wasn’t “Ace Fucking Frehley.” Then the Reunion happened and I saw how underwhelming they were.


KISS fans are dumb. They love clowns.





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Freley’s Comet :lol:
Ace’s solo “career” :lol:

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Corey's Guitar Solo wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:09 am
BernieTaupson wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 10:51 pm it’s either Ace or Paul on the solo on Under The Rose
One of those unanswered Kiss questions. I'm fairly certain it's Paul due to the phrasing and vibrato, but I don't think it's ever been confirmed. The picking when the solo comes in is very Ace.
Ace is credited, fans think it’s Paul. I think it’s a studio guy. My bet is Bob or Dick Wagner. Ace was never much of a delay guy in the way it’s used in this lead. I would bet it’s mostly studio guys on that album

Bob and Dick > Ace and Paul
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what about Abe Freshley?
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:57 am
Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:08 pm
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:06 pm

He doesn’t need to be. He’s Steve Fucking Brown.


I remember spending most of the 80s missing Ace in KISS and desperately wanting a reunion. I liked Bruce and was a fan but he wasn’t “Ace Fucking Frehley.” Then the Reunion happened and I saw how underwhelming they were.


KISS fans are dumb. They love clowns.





“I stepped in dog shit” - Ace Frehley
Trixter :lol:
'80s KISS :lol:

Freley’s Comet :lol:
Ace’s solo “career” :lol:

“I stepped in dog shit” - Ace Frehley
Nice try but no one is claiming he had a magnificent solo career. He is also not know for or respected because of it and you know that.

Ace was the magic ingredient of the OG lineup. They never got that back and no it wasn’t because of Bob’s bald head. I said he was a great player just like a million other guys whose names no one knows. It takes more than just being a good player to make a name for yourself. Ace had it and Bob didn’t. Ace’s solos are iconic. Bob’s are either unknown or mimicking Ace on a KISS or KISS-related album. Without the KISS connection hardly anyone would even know his name. Even Bruce is more famous.

And Vinnie was great in KISS, on stage and on record. He’s the only replacement that ever made sense. Too bad he is a loon because he would have made them a much better ‘80s band.
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Wiseacre wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 10:03 am
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:57 am
Wiseacre wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:08 pm

Trixter :lol:
'80s KISS :lol:

Freley’s Comet :lol:
Ace’s solo “career” :lol:

“I stepped in dog shit” - Ace Frehley
Nice try but no one is claiming he had a magnificent solo career. He is also not know for or respected because of it and you know that.

Ace was the magic ingredient of the OG lineup. They never got that back and no it wasn’t because of Bob’s bald head. I said he was a great player just like a million other guys whose names no one knows. It takes more than just being a good player to make a name for yourself. Ace had it and Bob didn’t. Ace’s solos are iconic. Bob’s are either unknown or mimicking Ace on a KISS or KISS-related album. Without the KISS connection hardly anyone would even know his name. Even Bruce is more famous.

And Vinnie was great in KISS, on stage and on record. He’s the only replacement that ever made sense. Too bad he is a loon because he would have made them a much better ‘80s band.

Ace is iconic? I saw the guy play dumpy clubs with scabs in the 90s. It was rather depressing. Nobody cares about him outside of KISS. A million other guys could’ve done his job as good or better than he did. Ace had the worst voice in the band so there was no magic there. Peter brought more magic and special to the band with his voice than Ace did. I’ll give the guy he had a funny, entertaining, quirky public persona but that’s about it.

Mick Ronson, Frampton, Joe Walsh, Iommi, May, Bolin, Luke, Schon all those guys were way better than Ace.

That’s like saying Dick Wagner and Steve Hunter weren’t as good as Glen Buxton, Michael Bruce, Joe Perry and Brad Whitfield. Which is laughable. Dick and Steve, Dick especially were top notch players. He buried all four of those guys, Dick was as good or better than any “iconic” 70s guitarist. The one laughable weak spot of KISS’ MTV Unplugged, other how bad the musicianship dropped once Ace came out on stage, was when they did Beth. That was laughable.

You can keep your lunch box and bubblegum cards and keep believing Ace was something special when you just can’t seem to recognize average when you hear it.
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Zinny wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:40 pm Name one guitarist that has been influenced by Steve Brown.
Name one guitarist who has been influenced by Ace's actual fretboard prowess, not the stage shtick.
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HoldenSSV wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:00 am
Zinny wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:40 pm Name one guitarist that has been influenced by Steve Brown.
Name one guitarist who has been influenced by Ace's actual fretboard prowess, not the stage shtick.
Tommy Thayer?
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Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:36 am
HoldenSSV wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:00 am
Zinny wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:40 pm Name one guitarist that has been influenced by Steve Brown.
Name one guitarist who has been influenced by Ace's actual fretboard prowess, not the stage shtick.
Tommy Thayer?
Ehh, Tommy probably has to smash his head into the stage multiple times in order to dumb down his playing.
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HoldenSSV wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 9:52 am
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:36 am
HoldenSSV wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:00 am

Name one guitarist who has been influenced by Ace's actual fretboard prowess, not the stage shtick.
Tommy Thayer?
Ehh, Tommy probably has to smash his head into the stage multiple times in order to dumb down his playing.

I wonder what it was like for Tommy to have to reteach Ace his own guitar parts.
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