Bryan Adams- War Machine
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 7:22 am
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I'm pretty sure Michael Bolton said the same thing about "Forever".Hair I Go Again wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am From https://www.loudersound.com/features/br ... -interview:
Q: Not many people may know this, but early in your career you co-wrote two songs recorded by Kiss: War Machine and Rock And Roll Hell. Share the backstory behind that.
A: Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it. They put some bit in the song that would qualify for a credit, but they had nothing to do with writing the songs. At the time, this was around ’81; Jim and I were just young songwriters looking for a break. I guess we were grateful for that.
Strange that they didn't do this with "Is That You?" or "Odyssey". Were those both recorded and released by the original artists before KISS covered them?Hair I Go Again wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it.
Everyone said that back when STP first released their album. Yes, it does. Supposedly Gene actually wrote that part.
Odyssey was.Wiseacre wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:16 pmStrange that they didn't do this with "Is That You?" or "Odyssey". Were those both recorded and released by the original artists before KISS covered them?Hair I Go Again wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it.
I think they are just the original 80s demos and not re- recordings. Anybody know the real story?Zinny wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:08 am I think it’s great that Bryan has recorded these songs but you can tell there’s not much effort put into this. I would have loved a better production on ”Rock N Roll Hell”.
Still, as a previous poster wrote, it’s better and more fun to listen to than Mötley’s cover of ”Fight For Your Right”.
You might be on to something, I don’t know, but he did a performace video for ”RNR Hell”, so the band has at least rehearsed it enough for that:fret123 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:36 amI think they are just the original 80s demos and not re- recordings. Anybody know the real story?Zinny wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:08 am I think it’s great that Bryan has recorded these songs but you can tell there’s not much effort put into this. I would have loved a better production on ”Rock N Roll Hell”.
Still, as a previous poster wrote, it’s better and more fun to listen to than Mötley’s cover of ”Fight For Your Right”.
FWIW, when it comes to "War Machine" at least, per an interview with Bryan he said that Gene had the main riff and Bryan turned it into a song from there.Hair I Go Again wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am From https://www.loudersound.com/features/br ... -interview:
Q: Not many people may know this, but early in your career you co-wrote two songs recorded by Kiss: War Machine and Rock And Roll Hell. Share the backstory behind that.
A: Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it. They put some bit in the song that would qualify for a credit, but they had nothing to do with writing the songs. At the time, this was around ’81; Jim and I were just young songwriters looking for a break. I guess we were grateful for that.
I'll also add that Gene's third verse in RnR Hell is good and the song lacks without a third verse, as based on Bryan's version. So Gene actually knew something, rather than "change a word, get a third", on that track, anyway.aznsquirt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:57 pmFWIW, when it comes to "War Machine" at least, per an interview with Bryan he said that Gene had the main riff and Bryan turned it into a song from there.Hair I Go Again wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am From https://www.loudersound.com/features/br ... -interview:
Q: Not many people may know this, but early in your career you co-wrote two songs recorded by Kiss: War Machine and Rock And Roll Hell. Share the backstory behind that.
A: Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it. They put some bit in the song that would qualify for a credit, but they had nothing to do with writing the songs. At the time, this was around ’81; Jim and I were just young songwriters looking for a break. I guess we were grateful for that.
I don't know if it's because I'm used to the Kiss versions, but I'm really surprised at how much Paul's voice added so much to these three songs.BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:19 amOdyssey was.Wiseacre wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:16 pmStrange that they didn't do this with "Is That You?" or "Odyssey". Were those both recorded and released by the original artists before KISS covered them?Hair I Go Again wrote: ↑Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:08 am Kiss’s deal was they had to have their name on the songs if they were gonna record it.
https://youtu.be/i88hta7AJqQ?si=q_bHpJwyG9TBIU3J
King of the Nighttime World was another one.
https://youtu.be/GfHyA0kjltQ?si=rdUt2UHyE4tWjsDV
Is That You was just a demo, wasn’t released.
https://youtu.be/pKK5U4k2qnI?si=mixv7-wUCy8l8VzC