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Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:57 am**

Not counting garbage bands like Nitro that had like maybe two albums, it's gotta be KISS. Bit of a toss-up between them and Motley, but KISS never had an album as good as Too Fast for Love. Debut and Creatures were very strong. Other than that? Even most of their 70s albums are pretty average. Couple of good tunes with a bunch of filler. 80s albums had quite a bit of hot garbage on them.

Is Ted Nugent a Sludge act? He's got some pretty horrible stuff as well.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:59 am**

Britny Foxx?

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:07 am**

As far as lower level Sludge bands, the band that can't be named would be up there for me. Also, Southgang and Danger Danger.

As far as major bands, I guess I would agree with Kiss as they have a lot of filler. Same with Motley. And if Nugent is included, I vote for him as well. Other than his first three solo records from the 70s, his catalog is almost 100% garbage.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:36 am**

Motley Crue was allowed to really coast on their image and bad boy reputation, they really weren’t that good.

Outside of Appetite, GNR’s catalog isn’t that good especially for how big they are. I agree with the prevailing Sludge winds and critics that UYI should have been one album.

WASP albums are laughably bad. As is everything else about them.

Twisted Sister were Black Sabbath compared to clowns like WASP and Motley Crue but had a catalog that was very hit and miss

Great White made very mediocre albums. It took me along time to realize this. There were so many better bands than them.

For all the love and hype they get on here, Kix’s catalog is nothing to write home about. A respectable live band but they weren’t AC/DC much less Poison, even though they wanted to be desperately.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:40 am**

Career all CDs
Skidrow is horrible- Bach stuff legendary than massive nosedive- so awful it’s unlstenahke

Queensryche- even with Tate it’s boring then new singer makes band unlistenable

Take away Bon Jovi CDs 3 and 4…before and after ..makes them what? Just blah mostly

Leppard without CDs 4 and 5…career not legendary

Kiss without costumes..would they even have fans

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:40 am**

Yngwie. By miles.

The song “Rising Force” is kinda cool and there have been a few cool instrumentals along the way, but overall his catalog is absolute shit.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:42 am**

Tesla is annoying- but all CDs sound annoying
Overall good career for those fans

Great White without Jack ..is bad

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:45 am**

FreddyFender wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:40 am Yngwie. By miles.

The song “Rising Force” is kinda cool and there have been a few cool instrumentals along the way, but overall his catalog is absolute shit.

No way, his first 3 albums are killer.

My vote goes to Quiet Riot. The first album was good, the second one was basically a copy, and the rest is meh, esp. those albums with Shortino, which are intensely mediocre.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:49 am**

Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:45 am
FreddyFender wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:40 am Yngwie. By miles.

The song “Rising Force” is kinda cool and there have been a few cool instrumentals along the way, but overall his catalog is absolute shit.
No way, his first 3 albums are killer.

My vote goes to Quiet Riot. The first album was good, the second one was basically a copy, and the rest is meh, esp. those albums with Shortino, which are intensely mediocre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU1Q316RKDA

This is the worst thing I've ever heard.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:57 am**

Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:36 am Motley Crue was allowed to really coast on their image and bad boy reputation, they really weren’t that good.

Outside of Appetite, GNR’s catalog isn’t that good especially for how big they are. I agree with the prevailing Sludge winds and critics that UYI should have been one album.

WASP albums are laughably bad. As is everything else about them.

Twisted Sister were Black Sabbath compared to clowns like WASP and Motley Crue but had a catalog that was very hit and miss

Great White made very mediocre albums. It took me along time to realize this. There were so many better bands than them.

For all the love and hype they get on here, Kix’s catalog is nothing to write home about. A respectable live band but they weren’t AC/DC much less Poison, even though they wanted to be desperately.

Agree with all of this except Twisted being better than Mötley - not even close.

But what about AC/DC themselves? They have three stone cold classics in Powerage, HTH and BIB but the rest is a bunch of GGGs and Animalizes. 2 good singles and a lot of boring same sounding filler. If not for Thunderstruck, they'd be Uriah Heep today. Or Deep Purple at best.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:25 am**

FreddyFender wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:49 am
Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:45 am
FreddyFender wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:40 am Yngwie. By miles.

The song “Rising Force” is kinda cool and there have been a few cool instrumentals along the way, but overall his catalog is absolute shit.
No way, his first 3 albums are killer.

My vote goes to Quiet Riot. The first album was good, the second one was basically a copy, and the rest is meh, esp. those albums with Shortino, which are intensely mediocre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU1Q316RKDA

This is the worst thing I've ever heard.

That's certainly not his best song, but it's still pretty good, a good driving song!

But don't just take my word for it that Yngwie is one of the greats, ask the fine people over at Fender, eh Mr. FreddyFender?! They were stoked to include him in their roster of artists from the beginning.

"...in 1988 when he was officially named alongside Eric Clapton as the first artist to get a signature Strat. Later in the interview with Wong, Malmsteen revealed that the first prototype he received from Fender made it onto his 1988 Odyssey record..."

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:48 am**

You guys are tripping. If OVERRATED was the question then maybe you have a case for KISS or CRUE, but WORST jeezus they don't even break the top 20.

KISS first 8 albums are great.

UNCLE TED'S run from CALL OF THE WILD thru CAT SCRATCH is untouchable.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:05 am**

SchenkerFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:57 am Not counting garbage bands like Nitro that had like maybe two albums, it's gotta be KISS. Bit of a toss-up between them and Motley, but KISS never had an album as good as Too Fast for Love. Debut and Creatures were very strong. Other than that? Even most of their 70s albums are pretty average. Couple of good tunes with a bunch of filler. 80s albums had quite a bit of hot garbage on them.

Is Ted Nugent a Sludge act? He's got some pretty horrible stuff as well.

If you think they are the worst, I would love to hear what you think are the best!

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:17 am**

SchenkerFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:57 am Not counting garbage bands like Nitro that had like maybe two albums, it's gotta be KISS. Bit of a toss-up between them and Motley, but KISS never had an album as good as Too Fast for Love. Debut and Creatures were very strong. Other than that? Even most of their 70s albums are pretty average. Couple of good tunes with a bunch of filler. 80s albums had quite a bit of hot garbage on them.

Is Ted Nugent a Sludge act? He's got some pretty horrible stuff as well.

Pretty edgy take shitting on KISS while sporting a username of a guitarist without a single song under his own name that the average person could name even with a gun to their head and multiple choice.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:25 am**

Every band and artist mentioned so far is miles better than schenker.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:10 pm**

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:17 am
SchenkerFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:57 am Not counting garbage bands like Nitro that had like maybe two albums, it's gotta be KISS. Bit of a toss-up between them and Motley, but KISS never had an album as good as Too Fast for Love. Debut and Creatures were very strong. Other than that? Even most of their 70s albums are pretty average. Couple of good tunes with a bunch of filler. 80s albums had quite a bit of hot garbage on them.

Is Ted Nugent a Sludge act? He's got some pretty horrible stuff as well.
Pretty edgy take shitting on KISS while sporting a username of a guitarist without a single song under his own name that the average person could name even with a gun to their head and multiple choice.

So fame equals quality? What are we talking about these shite hair bands anyway, we should be talking about Garth Brooks.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:20 pm**

SchenkerFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:57 am Not counting garbage bands like Nitro that had like maybe two albums, it's gotta be KISS. Bit of a toss-up between them and Motley, but KISS never had an album as good as Too Fast for Love. Debut and Creatures were very strong. Other than that? Even most of their 70s albums are pretty average. Couple of good tunes with a bunch of filler. 80s albums had quite a bit of hot garbage on them.

Is Ted Nugent a Sludge act? He's got some pretty horrible stuff as well.

All of Kiss' 70's catalogue is better than Too Fast for Love. Except maybe Love Gun and Dynasty.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:26 pm**

Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:45 am
FreddyFender wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:40 am Yngwie. By miles.

The song “Rising Force” is kinda cool and there have been a few cool instrumentals along the way, but overall his catalog is absolute shit.
No way, his first 3 albums are killer.

My vote goes to Quiet Riot. The first album was good, the second one was basically a copy, and the rest is meh, esp. those albums with Shortino, which are intensely mediocre.

I always preferred "Condition Critical" to the debut, and I enjoyed the one album they did with Shortino.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:27 pm**

Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:25 am
FreddyFender wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:49 am
Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:45 am

No way, his first 3 albums are killer.

My vote goes to Quiet Riot. The first album was good, the second one was basically a copy, and the rest is meh, esp. those albums with Shortino, which are intensely mediocre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU1Q316RKDA

This is the worst thing I've ever heard.
That's certainly not his best song, but it's still pretty good, a good driving song!

I hadn't heard this, and after listening, I agree it is awful.

YingYang may be legendary and all, but this song was terrible. I kept wondering if it was a drum machine, because there was no groove at all, and the overall arrangement just sucked balls.

It sounds like exactly what it is~ the work of a guitar noodler who has no concept of song or how a band should play together.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:28 pm**

LAglamrocker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:40 am
Leppard without CDs 4 and 5…career not legendary

The setlist from this past tour shows that clearly! There were very few songs outside of Pyromania and Hysteria.

I've come to love High & Dry over the years. That guitar tone and more in your face production are cool. It shows a band on its way to greatness.

Adrenalize was a hit record but I've grown to hate it. Too light and fluffy. Most of their albums after that were too light and fluffy with very few memorable songs. But you just can't deny how amazing Pyromania and Hysteria are.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:50 pm**

W.A.S.P. isn't a bad answer. Most of their catalog is unlistenable.

I might go with Extreme. They were, are, and always will be crap.

BulletBoys would be up there too.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:38 pm**

Jackyl is always the answer when the question is about "worst."

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:05 pm**

Motley for sure. Decade of Decadence is almost all you need. First two are the only ones worth having otherwise

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:45 pm**

VinceVanLane wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:07 am As far as lower level Sludge bands, the band that can't be named would be up there for me. Also, Southgang and Danger Danger.

As far as major bands, I guess I would agree with Kiss as they have a lot of filler. Same with Motley. And if Nugent is included, I vote for him as well. Other than his first three solo records from the 70s, his catalog is almost 100% garbage.

yeah, after hearing all the accolades on here for southgang I checked out the first album.
Not good.
He’s a great guitar player but that’s it

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:54 pm**

I have to agree with Quiet Riot. Take out the covers and they don’t have 3 listenable tracks in 40 years of recording. Plus they always looked stupid.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 6:05 pm**

Quiet Riot was the first to come to mind.

I also think E'Nuff Z'Nuff blows.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 6:11 pm**

Sleek wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:27 pm I hadn't heard this, and after listening, I agree it is awful.

YingYang may be legendary and all, but this song was terrible. I kept wondering if it was a drum machine, because there was no groove at all, and the overall arrangement just sucked balls.

It sounds like exactly what it is~ the work of a guitar noodler who has no concept of song or how a band should play together.

Several of the YT comments praised the slow section that starts at 1:24. I agree that it's 4 quite pleasant bars (or maybe 8; I don't recall and don't want to re-listen) but the rest - as far as I could stand it, which was about 2 mins - was utter shit. It's a long time since I tried to listen to Yngwie and it'll hopefully be the last. If that's one of the "best" from his catalogue (correct spelling) then he truly deserves the prize in this thread.

Posted: **Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:24 pm**

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:50 pm W.A.S.P. isn't a bad answer. Most of their catalog is unlistenable.

I might go with Extreme. They were, are, and always will be crap.

W.A.S.P. had a very good 5-album run though, lots of bands start crapping out way before the 5-album mark.

Extreme would be my second pick, Nuno Bettencourt is a badass, but that funk-infused music is crap. Pornografitti didn't last long in my music collection.

Posted: **Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:51 am**

Anyone saying wasp is a moron

Posted: **Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:55 am**

Uncle Ped is terrible except for about 2-3 songs.

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