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Never heard of those songs. These are c-d level acts.Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:05 pm I'll grant you that EPMD are more underground/niche, but BDK is a bona fide hip-hop LEGEND.
Raw
Ain't No Half Steppin'
Smooth Operator
I Get the Job Done
Co-wrote half of Biz Markie's 1st record
and... he FUCKED MADONNA.
Stay in your lane, froggy.
Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:05 pm I'll grant you that EPMD are more underground/niche, but BDK is a bona fide hip-hop LEGEND.
Raw
Ain't No Half Steppin'
Smooth Operator
I Get the Job Done
Co-wrote half of Biz Markie's 1st record
and... he FUCKED MADONNA.
Stay in your lane, froggy.
Ah...so they WERE C level. At their PEAK. No wonder no one knows them. Or those songs listed above.Grendel wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:42 pmBono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:05 pm I'll grant you that EPMD are more underground/niche, but BDK is a bona fide hip-hop LEGEND.
Raw
Ain't No Half Steppin'
Smooth Operator
I Get the Job Done
Co-wrote half of Biz Markie's 1st record
and... he FUCKED MADONNA.
Stay in your lane, froggy.
No one remembers or cares about those two artists - sorry. EPMD AND BDK were c level during their peak - they sucked.
itdoesntmatter wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:52 pm EMPD had 4 Gold Albums in a row when it meant something, without “going pop.” Those albums are all considered classics in the genre.
Then they had a comeback after a breakup that was a huge deal in hip-hop. And they went Gold again 5 years later in a new scene. “Da Joint” was a rap hit.
“You Gots to Chill” is considered a hip-hip classic song and their debut album is considered a highlight of rap history.
Fun fact: their biggest pop single (I think it hit #42) was “Crossover” a song that criticized MC Hammer and other pop crossover rappers. The point was they could go Gold and sell shows without a pop hit or trying to target all-white crowds. Most people who know rap history know the line “strictly underground funk, keep the crossover.”
They also pioneered some things like story songs with running sequels. They had the real “Gold Digger” song, Rampage with LL Cool J, they discovered Redman, had Hitsquad/Defsquad. Erik Sermon did a lot of production and had some solo pop success in the early 2000s after Clive Davis signed him to J Records.
So no, I don’t think a group that had Gold Albums from 1988-1997 and had multiple solo charting albums and individual big time production and songwriting and publishing royalties without ever crossing over is comparable to a Z list hair band that has no fans if they didn’t have pop hits.
But yeah they are “niche” because they are a genre act without pop success. Also back then was when you could have everything from AOR to funk and metal and whatever go Gold with no crossover pop hits and all kinds of genres could build real fanbases and careers.
Yep. Some obscure rap act. Can't believe we're discussing D list hip hop. Absurd.LurkingAtWork wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:30 am Did this motherfucker just write a wall of text about some obscure butt rap group? Where am I?
I was about to say he's a badass, but realized I got him confused with Brother Marquis of the awesome old school 2 Live Crew. If these guys had been on the bill the place would have been jam packed!DemonFilth2001 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:45 pmWho is Biz Markie?Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:05 pm I'll grant you that EPMD are more underground/niche, but BDK is a bona fide hip-hop LEGEND.
Raw
Ain't No Half Steppin'
Smooth Operator
I Get the Job Done
Co-wrote half of Biz Markie's 1st record
and... he FUCKED MADONNA.
Stay in your lane, froggy.
Well, I done gone and wasted 15/20 minutes of my precious time listening to those 4 tunes. That shit sounds dated as fuck. No wonder no one showed up at their show.Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:05 pm I'll grant you that EPMD are more underground/niche, but BDK is a bona fide hip-hop LEGEND.
Raw
Ain't No Half Steppin'
Smooth Operator
I Get the Job Done
Co-wrote half of Biz Markie's 1st record
and... he FUCKED MADONNA.
Stay in your lane, froggy.
I saw Sexxy Red at the Wiltern last year. Now talk about packed. And the demographics ... Not only was the only white dude over 50, I was the only white male, the only white person, the only person over 30, possibly the only male etc etc. And usually instead of just creeping out all the kids around me some of them seemed to enjoy my presence if you know what I mean.Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:02 am
Maybe I need to check out an EPMD greatest hits set, but these days I'm more into Sexyy Red, her shit is more fun.
Frog lane rules, better music inside of it!
That sounds pretty rad! I hope she comes to Parisijwthstd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:24 pm..., possibly the only male etc etc. ...Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:02 am
Maybe I need to check out an EPMD greatest hits set, but these days I'm more into Sexyy Red, her shit is more fun.
Frog lane rules, better music inside of it!
Yes, they were.Grendel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:03 amitdoesntmatter wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:52 pm EMPD had 4 Gold Albums in a row when it meant something, without “going pop.” Those albums are all considered classics in the genre.
Then they had a comeback after a breakup that was a huge deal in hip-hop. And they went Gold again 5 years later in a new scene. “Da Joint” was a rap hit.
“You Gots to Chill” is considered a hip-hip classic song and their debut album is considered a highlight of rap history.
Fun fact: their biggest pop single (I think it hit #42) was “Crossover” a song that criticized MC Hammer and other pop crossover rappers. The point was they could go Gold and sell shows without a pop hit or trying to target all-white crowds. Most people who know rap history know the line “strictly underground funk, keep the crossover.”
They also pioneered some things like story songs with running sequels. They had the real “Gold Digger” song, Rampage with LL Cool J, they discovered Redman, had Hitsquad/Defsquad. Erik Sermon did a lot of production and had some solo pop success in the early 2000s after Clive Davis signed him to J Records.
So no, I don’t think a group that had Gold Albums from 1988-1997 and had multiple solo charting albums and individual big time production and songwriting and publishing royalties without ever crossing over is comparable to a Z list hair band that has no fans if they didn’t have pop hits.
But yeah they are “niche” because they are a genre act without pop success. Also back then was when you could have everything from AOR to funk and metal and whatever go Gold with no crossover pop hits and all kinds of genres could build real fanbases and careers.
They weren't any good.
This is exactly what it was like when I went to see young dolph and key glock at the wilternijwthstd wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:24 pmI saw Sexxy Red at the Wiltern last year. Now talk about packed. And the demographics ... Not only was the only white dude over 50, I was the only white male, the only white person, the only person over 30, possibly the only male etc etc. And usually instead of just creeping out all the kids around me some of them seemed to enjoy my presence if you know what I mean.Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:02 am
Maybe I need to check out an EPMD greatest hits set, but these days I'm more into Sexyy Red, her shit is more fun.
Frog lane rules, better music inside of it!
Never heard of her until now. Goddamn, those are some HIDEOUS bolt-ons. I hope her music makes up for them.Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:02 am Maybe I need to check out an EPMD greatest hits set, but these days I'm more into Sexyy Red, her shit is more fun.