Metal Sludge Gossip Board

I wonder what prompted this statement from Snake?, Erik leaving due to health reasons was already known.

Is this because Erik let it slip that someone in the Skids camp said, "You're dead to me"?

Rocker4Real wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:52 am Is this because Erik let it slip that someone in the Skids camp said, "You're dead to me"?

Exactly what I thought given the timing

Gronwall has got a tour with Schenker lined up, at least as intense as what Skid Row usually does:
https://blabbermouth.net/news/michael-s ... opean-tour

jens wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:56 am Gronwall has got a tour with Schenker lined up, at least as intense as what Skid Row usually does:
https://blabbermouth.net/news/michael-s ... opean-tour

A month with Schenker is a lot less intense than what Skid Row did with the gangs all here tour

Was the band paying for all of Gronwall’s flights over from Europe the whole time? That alone could create a lot of decent if the band was not touring that much.

Im a fan of Erik but him being overseas was really the problem.
Skids were forced to actually do bus tours for a month plus due to that.
They couldnt do the weekend runs to lessen the amount of days with having to fly Erik back n forth
I had also heard from someone close to Erik that it definately wasnt a cordial split as Skids thought they had found their singer & there was some belief Erik took a short time gig to bolster his popularity with no real intention of being in band for longer haul.

greengoblinrulz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:58 pm Im a fan of Erik but him being overseas was really the problem.
Skids were forced to actually do bus tours for a month plus due to that.
They couldnt do the weekend runs to lessen the amount of days with having to fly Erik back n forth
I had also heard from someone close to Erik that it definately wasnt a cordial split as Skids thought they had found their singer & there was some belief Erik took a short time gig to bolster his popularity with no real intention of being in band for longer haul.

Nice to have an insider here.

greengoblinrulz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:58 pm Im a fan of Erik but him being overseas was really the problem.
Skids were forced to actually do bus tours for a month plus due to that.
They couldnt do the weekend runs to lessen the amount of days with having to fly Erik back n forth
I had also heard from someone close to Erik that it definately wasnt a cordial split as Skids thought they had found their singer & there was some belief Erik took a short time gig to bolster his popularity with no real intention of being in band for longer haul.

As someone pointed out earlier, he went and joined Michael Schenker’s band for a month long tour, it’s not like he joined Guns N Roses for an 18 month tour.

The people who pointed out the logistics of him having to fly over to the States for every show or “leg” of their casino tour doesn’t make a lot of sense long term. I don’t blame him for not wanting to move here given his health condition. He gets better care in his native country than if he moved his family over here.

Given Erik’s health condition and struggles, the fact someone told him that he is “dead” to them makes me respect the band even less and definitely bolsters the prevailing attitudes of those of us who feel that Bach wasn’t the only asshole in the band.

Rob “nice guy” Affuso has publicly admitted that he and Sebastian used to get in fist fights and he has a red line that Sebastian has to be the singer in order for him to come back.

While he handled it like a child, Sebastian wasn’t wrong about the KISS tour in 1996.

Can't find it, but there was an interview not too long after the split where Erik basically said it came down to money. Adjusting the touring schedule as would have been necessary wasn't on the table for the Skid guys

Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:15 pm

greengoblinrulz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:58 pm Im a fan of Erik but him being overseas was really the problem.
Skids were forced to actually do bus tours for a month plus due to that.
They couldnt do the weekend runs to lessen the amount of days with having to fly Erik back n forth
I had also heard from someone close to Erik that it definately wasnt a cordial split as Skids thought they had found their singer & there was some belief Erik took a short time gig to bolster his popularity with no real intention of being in band for longer haul.

As someone pointed out earlier, he went and joined Michael Schenker’s band for a month long tour, it’s not like he joined Guns N Roses for an 18 month tour.

The people who pointed out the logistics of him having to fly over to the States for every show or “leg” of their casino tour doesn’t make a lot of sense long term. I don’t blame him for not wanting to move here given his health condition. He gets better care in his native country than if he moved his family over here.

Given Erik’s health condition and struggles, the fact someone told him that he is “dead” to them makes me respect the band even less and definitely bolsters the prevailing attitudes of those of us who feel that Bach wasn’t the only asshole in the band.

Rob “nice guy” Affuso has publicly admitted that he and Sebastian used to get in fist fights and he has a red line that Sebastian has to be the singer in order for him to come back.

While he handled it like a child, Sebastian wasn’t wrong about the KISS tour in 1996.

It was only 1 show, not a tour.

Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:15 pm

greengoblinrulz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:58 pm Im a fan of Erik but him being overseas was really the problem.
Skids were forced to actually do bus tours for a month plus due to that.
They couldnt do the weekend runs to lessen the amount of days with having to fly Erik back n forth
I had also heard from someone close to Erik that it definately wasnt a cordial split as Skids thought they had found their singer & there was some belief Erik took a short time gig to bolster his popularity with no real intention of being in band for longer haul.

As someone pointed out earlier, he went and joined Michael Schenker’s band for a month long tour, it’s not like he joined Guns N Roses for an 18 month tour.

The people who pointed out the logistics of him having to fly over to the States for every show or “leg” of their casino tour doesn’t make a lot of sense long term. I don’t blame him for not wanting to move here given his health condition. He gets better care in his native country than if he moved his family over here.

Given Erik’s health condition and struggles, the fact someone told him that he is “dead” to them makes me respect the band even less and definitely bolsters the prevailing attitudes of those of us who feel that Bach wasn’t the only asshole in the band.

Rob “nice guy” Affuso has publicly admitted that he and Sebastian used to get in fist fights and he has a red line that Sebastian has to be the singer in order for him to come back.

While he handled it like a child, Sebastian wasn’t wrong about the KISS tour in 1996.

I wasn't aware of that story for a long time, and had already made up my mind that something didn't seem "right" about the situation, that the blame was always 100% on Sebastian. I laughed for probably five minutes when I found out that the breakup was due to Sebastian wanting them to open for KISS, Rachel saying they were too big for that...and then Skid Row still going on to open for KISS on the next (not quite as big) tour. Clearly, they've been their own worst enemies for a long time.

Solinger also essentially drinking himself to death while being in the band never sat well with me either. Not saying that there's anything the guys COULD have done, and maybe they did do things and they just weren't publicized. But I dunno, something feels different about what happened with Solinger and Skid Row vs Jani and Warrant. Probably just me.

jens wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:56 am Gronwall has got a tour with Schenker lined up, at least as intense as what Skid Row usually does:
https://blabbermouth.net/news/michael-s ... opean-tour

When was the last time the crossed the country in a bus for 3 months straight? They're not the kind of band to put together gruelling schedueles.

"We want to do some lucrative gigs at casinos every other weekend" sounds like a good argument though, but they probably thinks that sounds to wimpy to say out loud.

jens wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:56 am Gronwall has got a tour with Schenker lined up, at least as intense as what Skid Row usually does:
https://blabbermouth.net/news/michael-s ... opean-tour

Three week tour in Europe with short drives between cities. It's a whole different thing than flying back and forth over Atlantic.

Snake “ next guy will be the “ GUY” we promise! Lucky 18!
18 and Life ! Lucky 18 ! anyone have Babylon AD singers number?”

Indy_Rob wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:07 pm

It was only 1 show, not a tour.

That’s even worse. They couldn’t do ONE show cause of Rachel’s side project?

Why didn’t they fire Bach after the Subhuman tour? The fact they did a whole tour with KISS in 2000 makes them look like d*ckheads. I saw that tour. I could’ve done without both Scab Row and Ted Blowhard

This isn't a bad look for the guys in SR. How were they to know that Erik was from a foreign country?

What's with Dave saying they always "wanted" to do a live album?

I guess
Oh Say Can You Scream VHS (plenty of live performances on that)
SKID ROW Moscow Peace Festival Blu Ray
Skid Row Live from Wembly 1992
SKID ROW live from London Astoria 1995

None of these count?

factchecker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:30 pm What's with Dave saying they always "wanted" to do a live album?

I guess
Oh Say Can You Scream VHS (plenty of live performances on that)
SKID ROW Moscow Peace Festival Blu Ray
Skid Row Live from Wembly 1992
SKID ROW live from London Astoria 1995

None of these count?

Why in the world would any of those count as a live album?

Were they released as live albums?

Wasn't Scream just a lazy collection of bootlegs, anyway?

factchecker wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:30 pm What's with Dave saying they always "wanted" to do a live album?

I guess
Oh Say Can You Scream VHS (plenty of live performances on that)
SKID ROW Moscow Peace Festival Blu Ray
Skid Row Live from Wembly 1992
SKID ROW live from London Astoria 1995

None of these count?

You didn't even mention the Vegas show they were going to release with Tony Harnell that they cancelled. Twisted Sister, Extreme and Great White all released theirs, so it was clearly ready to go.

Anthrax442 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:11 pm

Solinger also essentially drinking himself to death while being in the band never sat well with me either. Not saying that there's anything the guys COULD have done, and maybe they did do things and they just weren't publicized. But I dunno, something feels different about what happened with Solinger and Skid Row vs Jani and Warrant. Probably just me.

I thought it was a little classless that the first album they released since Solinger died was called "The Gang's All Here." I mean...a former member of the gang since you were "here" last DIED lol

Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:15 pm

greengoblinrulz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:58 pm Im a fan of Erik but him being overseas was really the problem.
Skids were forced to actually do bus tours for a month plus due to that.
They couldnt do the weekend runs to lessen the amount of days with having to fly Erik back n forth
I had also heard from someone close to Erik that it definately wasnt a cordial split as Skids thought they had found their singer & there was some belief Erik took a short time gig to bolster his popularity with no real intention of being in band for longer haul.

As someone pointed out earlier, he went and joined Michael Schenker’s band for a month long tour, it’s not like he joined Guns N Roses for an 18 month tour.

The people who pointed out the logistics of him having to fly over to the States for every show or “leg” of their casino tour doesn’t make a lot of sense long term. I don’t blame him for not wanting to move here given his health condition. He gets better care in his native country than if he moved his family over here.

Given Erik’s health condition and struggles, the fact someone told him that he is “dead” to them makes me respect the band even less and definitely bolsters the prevailing attitudes of those of us who feel that Bach wasn’t the only asshole in the band.

Rob “nice guy” Affuso has publicly admitted that he and Sebastian used to get in fist fights and he has a red line that Sebastian has to be the singer in order for him to come back.

While he handled it like a child, Sebastian wasn’t wrong about the KISS tour in 1996.

""""""""""the fact someone told him that he is “dead” to them makes me respect the band even less """""""""""""

This, NEVER happened and there is NO PROOF.

Clearly you took the "bait", when someone randomly posted that on here.

And I even asked, "where did you hear that?" and the guy pretty much admitted it was through a 3rd party.

Do you really believe that Snake or Rachel would say that anywhere much-less publicly?

They did not but you are buying it hook, line and sinker. Lame.

$tEvil

MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:41 pm """"""""""the fact someone told him that he is “dead” to them makes me respect the band even less """""""""""""

This, NEVER happened and there is NO PROOF.

Clearly you took the "bait", when someone randomly posted that on here.

And I even asked, "where did you hear that?" and the guy pretty much admitted it was through a 3rd party.

Do you really believe that Snake or Rachel would say that anywhere much-less publicly?

They did not but you are buying it hook, line and sinker. Lame.

$tEvil

If I remember correctly the first one who posted that 'dead' thing said it's excerpt from Erik's book.

Well it will be out in three weeks so then we get the answer was it BS.

jens wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:59 pm

jens wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:56 am Gronwall has got a tour with Schenker lined up, at least as intense as what Skid Row usually does:
https://blabbermouth.net/news/michael-s ... opean-tour

When was the last time the crossed the country in a bus for 3 months straight? They're not the kind of band to put together gruelling schedueles.

In 2023 they did about 3-4 months total throughout the year on a bus in USA with Buckcherry.

I wonder what happened with Harnell and why he quit the band .

I recall him saying in an interview years ago about being constantly disrespected, but he never went into details

joey78 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:49 am I wonder what happened with Harnell and why he quit the band .

I recall him saying in an interview years ago about being constantly disrespected, but he never went into details

They were probably gonna fire him anyway before he quit. His concerts weren't getting good reviews. Maybe he thought he'd be more of an equal since they were friends before he joined. I remember Snake saying something along the lines of him being a good friend and not a good bandmate.

MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:41 pm

Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:15 pm

greengoblinrulz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:58 pm Im a fan of Erik but him being overseas was really the problem.
Skids were forced to actually do bus tours for a month plus due to that.
They couldnt do the weekend runs to lessen the amount of days with having to fly Erik back n forth
I had also heard from someone close to Erik that it definately wasnt a cordial split as Skids thought they had found their singer & there was some belief Erik took a short time gig to bolster his popularity with no real intention of being in band for longer haul.

As someone pointed out earlier, he went and joined Michael Schenker’s band for a month long tour, it’s not like he joined Guns N Roses for an 18 month tour.

The people who pointed out the logistics of him having to fly over to the States for every show or “leg” of their casino tour doesn’t make a lot of sense long term. I don’t blame him for not wanting to move here given his health condition. He gets better care in his native country than if he moved his family over here.

Given Erik’s health condition and struggles, the fact someone told him that he is “dead” to them makes me respect the band even less and definitely bolsters the prevailing attitudes of those of us who feel that Bach wasn’t the only asshole in the band.

Rob “nice guy” Affuso has publicly admitted that he and Sebastian used to get in fist fights and he has a red line that Sebastian has to be the singer in order for him to come back.

While he handled it like a child, Sebastian wasn’t wrong about the KISS tour in 1996.

""""""""""the fact someone told him that he is “dead” to them makes me respect the band even less """""""""""""

This, NEVER happened and there is NO PROOF.

Clearly you took the "bait", when someone randomly posted that on here.

And I even asked, "where did you hear that?" and the guy pretty much admitted it was through a 3rd party.

Do you really believe that Snake or Rachel would say that anywhere much-less publicly?

They did not but you are buying it hook, line and sinker. Lame.

$tEvil

Where did I say it was positively Snake or Jimmy? There is one other guy in the band besides the fourth scab drummer.

Not to mention, your success with this website was built solely on gossip, rumors, innuendo and third-hand “bait.”

The cold, hard facts are, Dave, Jimmy and Thcotti are on their fifth or sixth singer and they’ve had too many drummers over the last twenty-five years that I don’t even care to count, it’s Scab Row. They’re Great White only they had the decency and common sense not to set their fans on fire over the ego of blowing off fire works in shitty, dive bars

Much like Ozzy, Dio, and Roth, Bach is a solo artist and is allowed to burn through as many musicians as he sees fit. It’s allowed. With a band situation, it just looks like they are as big or bigger assholes than their former singer while offering a much watered down product.

They pulled a Great White with Tony Harnell. They sort of dumped Solinger too from my recollection.

I know Rachel needs to be songwriter guy, and I’d have no problem with that if the quality of his work held up but that hasn’t been the case. The last great album they did was Subhuman Race. As much as I like TGAH, it’s not nearly as good as the first three and the stuff before it is all schlock.

Rachel seems to think he’s Bowie, Stanley/Simmons or Steve Harris but he’s not.

I say this as a huge fan. I was a bigger SR fan than I was GNR fan in 1989.

For Sebastian’s short comings, he took that band to the top of the mountain. Without him, they can be next door neighbors to Mick Jagger and they wouldn’t have gone anywhere with Matt Fallon. Matt wasn’t the singer, frontman or personality that Sebastian was and is.

Love him or hate him, without Bach there is no Skid Row. Rob “nice guy” Affuso gets it. The only ones who don’t are the three remaining stooges and you.

We may have been fed fake news.

joey78 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 3:49 am I wonder what happened with Harnell and why he quit the band .

I recall him saying in an interview years ago about being constantly disrespected, but he never went into details

From my recollection he was “let go.”

It doesn’t matter. It’s easier to be a lead singer in Journey than it is in Skid Row.

Rachel thinks he’s David Bowie and he’s not.

It’s entertaining that he thinks Subhuman Race is a pos but thinks RPM is an improvement.

Rachel has proven that he doesn’t like sharing the publishing. He makes Axl look generous.