MENEDEZ BROTHERS ... LIVE right now in Los Angeles, the DA is going to make a statement, will they be released?

[MetalSludgeCEO]

What say you...?

I am gonna say it's a 99% chance that Gascon will let them free.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... z+brothers

$tEvil

[Zabooka]

Do they know how to play metal? They could join As I Lay Dying.

[LAglamrocker]

2 more Cody Rhodes fans with freedom!
Good time for tv watching then!..COMEBACK kids!

[roxxxtar]

Norm McDonald would have said… Finally they’ll be able to go back to doing what they did best. Killing people.

[Bono Nettencourt]

Who are the "Menedez" brothers?

[MetalSludgeCEO]

Who are the "Menedez" brothers?

Google them... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_and_Erik_Menendez

In short, a pair of brothers, who at the age of 19 & 21, took a shotgun to their parents and murdered both in their Beverly Hills living room in 1989.

I can recall it clearly, as it was almost as big locally as the O.J. Simpson stuff...

They called 911, acted like they walked in on their parents shot, blah, blah, blah, but in time, the detectives sniffed 'em out and arrested both.

They were found guilty, and sentenced to Life with NO possibility of parole, which often means nothing when appeals, etc... play out. Such is the case right now... they will walk.

In the end, they then went to trial and said their Father had been raping and molesting them since they were little. The Father was a high-end wealthy industry guy, who later would be found out to have done similar to others, including a member of MENUDO who came forward as well.

Now they are in the courts again and it appears as if though they are going to be released 35 years later.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... z+brothers

[MetalSludgeCEO]

In reading over this again... WOW... is all I can say.

They went on a spending spree and blew through over $700,000.00 in about 6 months before being arrested. They almost got away with it, had they not been so crazy careless with their parents money!

They shot their Dad 6 times, once in the back of the head, and their Mom 10x, once in the face with a shotgun as she tried to crawl away. #WTF!

And, I forgot this part... but they were no strangers to being POS crooks, even as High School teens...

""""""In 1988, Lyle and Erik committed multiple burglaries in their neighborhood, stealing more than $100,000 in cash and jewellery,"""""

The following year they blew their parents head's off, then went to a Festival in Santa Monica to have fun, and use it as an alibi.

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Lyle and Erik Menendez

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Lyle and Erik Menendez
Mugshots of Lyle and Erik, two middle-aged white men.
Mug shots of Lyle (left) and Erik (right) Menendez taken in 2023
Born

Joseph Lyle Menendez
January 10, 1968 (age 56)
New York City, U.S.Erik Galen Menendez
November 27, 1970 (age 53)
Blackwood, New Jersey, U.S.

Alma mater Lyle: University of California, Irvine (BA)
Criminal status Incarcerated at Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility (both)[1]
Spouses

Lyle:
Anna Eriksson
​
​
(m. 1996; div. 2001)​
Rebecca Sneed
​
(m. 2003)​
Erik: Tammi Saccoman
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(m. 1999)​

Parent(s) José and Mary Louise "Kitty" Menendez
Conviction(s) First-degree murder, conspiracy to murder
Criminal penalty Life in prison without the possibility of parole (both)
Details
Victims José and Mary Louise "Kitty" Menendez
Date August 20, 1989
Location(s) Beverly Hills, California, U.S.
Target(s) José and Mary Menendez
Weapons Mossberg 12-gauge shotgun
Date apprehended


Lyle: March 8, 1990
Erik: March 11, 1990

Joseph Lyle Menendez (born January 10, 1968)[2] and Erik Galen Menendez (born November 27, 1970),[3] collectively referred to as the Menendez brothers, are American brothers and convicted murderers who killed their parents, José and Mary Louise "Kitty" Menendez, at their Beverly Hills home in 1989.

Following the murders, Lyle and Erik claimed that unknown intruders were responsible for the murders, framing it as a potential mob killing. Police initially investigated this claim, but grew suspicious of the brothers' lavish spending of their multimillion-dollar inheritance, and their hiring of a computer expert to delete their father's recently updated will. Erik later confessed to the murders during a recorded session with his psychologist, which led to their arrests months later.

Lyle and Erik were charged with two counts of first-degree murder with special circumstances for lying in wait, making them eligible for the death penalty, and charges of conspiracy to murder. During their first trial, the defense argued that the brothers killed their parents in self-defense after years of alleged sexual, emotional, and physical abuse. The prosecution argued that the murders were premeditated, that allegations of sexual abuse were fabricated, and that the brothers were motivated by hatred and a desire to receive their father's multimillion-dollar estate after being disinherited from his will.[4] The juries were unable to reach a verdict, resulting in mistrials for both brothers.[5][6] In a second trial, they were convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole.

Multiple legal appeals of their convictions have been rejected by reviewing judges.[7] A habeas corpus petition is currently under review in Los Angeles. Lyle and Erik continue to serve life sentences at the Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility in San Diego, California.

The highly publicized trials received international media attention, inspiring numerous documentaries, dramatizations, books, and parodies.
Background

José Enrique Menendez was born on May 6, 1944, in Havana, Cuba. At age 16, at the beginning of the Cuban Revolution, he moved to the United States.[8] José attended Southern Illinois University, where he met Mary Louise "Kitty" Andersen (1941–1989). They were married in 1963 and moved to New York City where José earned an accounting degree from Queens College.[9]

The couple's first son, Joseph Lyle, who goes by his middle name, was born on January 10, 1968, in New York.[10][11] Kitty quit her teaching job after Lyle was born, and the family moved to New Jersey, where Erik Galen was born on November 27, 1970, in Gloucester Township.[12][13] The family lived in Hopewell Township and both brothers attended Princeton Day School.[9]

José became an executive at Hertz Corporation and later RCA Records.[14] After he was appointed as the CEO of Live Entertainment, the family moved to Calabasas, California, where Erik attended Calabasas High School.[12][9]

In 1988, Lyle and Erik committed multiple burglaries in their neighborhood, stealing more than $100,000 in cash and jewellery, prompting José to move to Beverly Hills.[15] The following year, Erik attended Beverly Hills High School where he earned average grades but displayed a talent for tennis, ranking 44th in the US as a junior.[16] About two weeks before the murders, Erik and his friend Michael Joyce entered the 1989 Boys' Junior National Tennis Championship.[17]

Lyle attended Princeton University, where he was placed on academic probation for poor grades and eventually suspended for plagiarism.[18][19] He lived in the Gauss Hall dormitory, where he threw out his roommates' belongings as he did not wish to share a room, left sinks overflowing causing damage, and repainted his room in violation of university rules.[20]: 95 

In high school, Erik wrote an amateur screenplay with his classmate called "Friends"; a story about a rich young man who killed his parents in the "perfect murder" for the inheritance money.[21][22]
Murders and investigation
Murders and alibi

On August 18, 1989, Lyle and Erik went to several gun stores in Southern California to buy handguns.[23][24] However, due to issues with Lyle's California driver's license and a two-week waiting period mandated by gun laws, the brothers decided to purchase shotguns instead.[25] They acquired Mossberg 12-gauge shotguns along with boxes of birdshot and buckshot ammunition in a Big 5 Sporting Goods store in San Diego, California, where Erik used a stolen driver's license from Lyle's friend, Donovan Goodreau.[23][25][26]

On the evening of August 20, 1989, José and Kitty were watching television in the den of their Beverly Hills mansion when Lyle and Erik entered the den, carrying loaded shotguns.[27] José was shot six times, including a fatal shot to the back of his head.[28] Kitty was shot ten times in total.[29] Before the fatal shot to her cheek, she was on the ground, crawling away.[24][30] Lyle ran to the car where Erik handed him ammunition to reload before firing the fatal shot to her face.[31][32]

Immediately after the killings, both brothers remained in the house for a few minutes, expecting the police to respond due to the noise of the gunshots.[33] They left to dispose of their clothes that were stained with blood, and later buried the shotguns somewhere along Mulholland Drive. They also went to a movie theater and attempted to purchase tickets for the film Batman to use as their alibi but abandoned the plan due to the timestamp on the ticket stub.[34] They then headed to the "Taste of L.A." festival at Santa Monica Civic Auditorium.[35]

After returning home and finding no police presence, Lyle called 911 and emotionally told the operator, "someone killed my parents", saying that he had just come home and discovered their bodies.[36][37] Erik was heard screaming and crying in the background. When the officers arrived, Lyle and Erik ran from the home toward the officers while screaming.[37] When the police arrived, they did not seek gunshot residue tests from the brothers, which would have indicated whether they had recently discharged a firearm.[38] Lyle and Erik both falsely told officers that they were elsewhere at the time of the killings. Lyle told officers he thought the killings might be "business-related", implying a Mafia hit.[37]

Police officers and forensic staff who worked on the crime scene described it as "the most brutal" one they had ever encountered, noting the blood and brain matter splattered throughout the room.[39][40][41] Retired police detective Dan Stewart stated, "I've seen a lot of homicides, but nothing quite that brutal. Blood, flesh, skulls. It would be hard to describe, especially Jose, as resembling a human that you would recognize. That's how bad it was."[40] According to the autopsy report, one blast caused "explosive decapitation with evisceration of the brain" and "deformity of the face" to José, while the first round of shots struck Kitty in her chest, right arm, left hip, and left leg, with the contact shot causing "multiple lacerations of the brain".[40]
Investigation and arrests

Detectives initially investigated Lyle's suggestion the murders were a result of mob-related activity[42] due to its heinousness and José's business connections.[43]

In the months after the killings, the brothers spent lavishly on luxury items, businesses, and travel.[44][15] Lyle bought Chuck's Spring Street Café, a Buffalo wing restaurant in Princeton, New Jersey, as well as three Rolex watches and a Porsche Carrera sports car.[45] Erik hired a full-time tennis coach and competed in a series of tournaments overseas. The brothers eventually left the Beverly Hills mansion unoccupied, choosing to live in adjoining condominiums in nearby Marina del Rey.[46] They also dined extravagantly and took overseas trips to the Caribbean and London.[47] Collectively, they spent approximately $700,000 before their arrests; family members later disputed a connection between their spending and the murder of their parents, claiming that there were no changes in their spending habits after the killings.[15] At one point, they attended a New York Knicks basketball game which became immortalized when they appeared courtside in the background of a Mark Jackson trading card.[48]

As the investigation continued, police began to suspect the brothers due to the possible financial motive and their spending spree after the killings. Erik's high school friend, Craig Cignarelli, reported to the police that Erik confessed to him.[49] He also revealed that he and Erik had previously written a 66-page screenplay titled "Friends", which depicted a son killing his wealthy parents for their inheritance.[50] In an attempt to get a confession, police arranged for Cignarelli to wear a wire during a lunch with Erik. When Cignarelli asked Erik whether he had killed his parents, Erik denied it.[51]

Police also heard from Lyle's friend Glenn Stevens that one week after the killings, Lyle had made a sudden trip back home from Princeton to destroy something in the family computer. Stevens said that Lyle told him a family member "found a new will and I went there and erased it".[52] A computer expert hired by Lyle, also said he was hired to ensure deletion of a new will José had prepared, that may have left less to his sons.[52]

Erik eventually confessed to his psychologist, Jerome Oziel, who then told his mistress, Judalon Smyth. Oziel began recording his sessions with Lyle and Erik.[53] After breaking up with Oziel, Smyth informed the police about the brothers' involvement in the murders.[54] Lyle was arrested on March 8, 1990, outside their Beverly Hills home, while Erik turned himself in three days later after returning to Los Angeles from Israel.[55] Both were held without bail and jailed separately at the Los Angeles County Jail.[56]
Trials
Pretrial detention and legal disputes

In August 1990, Judge James Albrecht ruled that tapes of the conversations between Erik and and his psychologist Jerome Oziel were admissible evidence since Oziel claimed that Lyle threatened him and violated doctor–patient privilege.[57] Albrecht's ruling was appealed, after which the proceedings were delayed for two years. The Supreme Court of California ruled in August 1992 that most of the tapes were admissible, with the exception of the tape on which Erik discussed the murders.[58][59]

After that decision, a Los Angeles County grand jury issued indictments in December 1992, charging the brothers with the murders of their parents; the special circumstances that the killings were committed for financial gain was deemed unsupported by evidence and was subsequently excluded from the charges.[60] They were charged with two counts of first-degree murder with special circumstances for lying in wait, which made them eligible for the death penalty.[61]
First trial (1993–1994)

Represented by lead defense lawyers, Leslie Abramson (for Erik) and Jill Lansing (for Lyle), the brothers stated that they killed their parents out of fear for their lives after a lifetime of abuse at the hands of their parents, especially sexual abuse at the hands of their father, who was described as a cruel perfectionist and pedophile. Meanwhile, their mother was described as an enabling, selfish, mentally unstable alcoholic[62] and drug addict [failed verification]who encouraged her husband's behavior and was also violent toward the brothers.[4] Erik testified that two weeks before the killings, he told Lyle about the sexual abuse he was experiencing, leading to multiple confrontations within the family.[30] Both brothers testified that their father had threatened to kill them if they did not keep the abuse secret. As a result, they purchased shotguns for "protection and self-defense". They alleged that the final confrontation occurred in their home's den on August 20, 1989, shortly before Kitty and José were killed. According to their testimony, José closed the den's door, which they described as "unusual". They testified that they were afraid that they would be killed by their parents, so went outside to load their shotguns, and Erik recalled, "As I went into the room, I just started firing."[30][63]

Under California law, the brothers could only be acquitted for manslaughter if they could prove they were in immediate or imminent danger.[20]: 236  The prosecution argued there was no evidence of imminent danger or self defense. Bozniach argued it was a premeditated killing, with the brothers purchasing shotguns in advance.[4] Prosecution also used the taped conversation between the brothers and their psychologist, in which the brothers said they decided "beforehand" to kill their parents.[64]

The prosecution argued that the sexual abuse allegations were fabricated, as nobody mentioned abuse until seven months after the murders while a legal defense was being formulated. The prosecution told jurors that mention of sexual abuse was absent in discussions and tapes with their psychologist, Jerome Oziel; and that Erik did not mention abuse in his earlier confession to his friend Craig Cignarelli.[20]: 170  The prosecution told jurors throughout the trial that Lyle and Erik were capable of lying frequently and in great detail to avoid being caught, and thus they were also capable of lying about child abuse to avoid death sentences.[4]

Lyle and Erik's cousin, Diane Vander Molen, testified that during a stay with the family in the mid-1970s, Lyle confided in her that his father was sexually abusing him. Vander Molen claimed she told Kitty about the incident, but Kitty sided with her husband, accusing Lyle of lying. Vander Molen recalled that after this, Kitty sent Lyle upstairs, and she never heard of the issue again.[citation needed] Under questioning from Bozniach, Vander Molen said she had never witnessed any abuse.[20]: 204  Another cousin, Andy Cano, alleged that as a child, Erik told him about the abuse, which they both described as genital "massages". Prosecutors pressed Cano, asking him if he would lie for his cousin, which he denied.[65]

The defense presented two faceless photographs of baby boys from the waist down, which Lyle alleged were taken by their father when they were little.[20]: 211  The prosecution argued that there was no evidence the photographs were taken by José,[7]: 12508  and the photos were found on a roll of film interspersed with photos from a children's birthday party.[66]

Evidence from a taped therapy session between the brothers and their psychologist, Jerome Oziel, was also presented in court, after legal attempts by the defense to exclude it.[67] The prosecution used the tapes to disprove the abuse claims, as the brothers made no mention of sexual abuse, and instead complained about their dictatorial father and suicidal mother.[64] Lyle also stated that by killing their mother, they may be "doing her and [he and Erik] a favor... putting her out of her misery" and that they had "shown great courage by killing their mother".[64] According to Oziel's account, "They didn't kill their parents for money but rather out of hatred and out of a desire to be free from their father's domination, messages of inadequacy, and impossible standards."[67]

The defense consultant Ann Burgess argued Oziel was "manipulative" and "controlling", arguing he directed many of the statements made by the brothers in the tape recordings.[68] Oziel's ex-mistress, Judalon Smyth, also testified that Oziel wanted to "control" the brothers by taping their sessions.[54] Smyth's testimony was challenged by the prosecution, noting she was the one who notified the authorities of the confession tapes, but had now joined the defense to discredit Oziel after a tumultuous breakup.[20]: 260 

Erik testified that he put cinnamon in his father's tea and coffee to make his semen taste better.[69]: 328  Kuriyama later made an attempt to introduce the possibility of Erik being sexually interested in men as an explanation this knowledge. Kuriyama proposed that José had not forced Erik into sex acts, but was furious that his son was potentially homosexual, and this may have been a cause of tensions within the family.[20]: 270 [70] Judge Weisberg refused to allow Kuriyama to discuss the idea.[64] The defense argued Kuriyama's idea was "disgusting",[20]: 270  while Kuriyama argued it was relevant because one witness claimed to have seen gay porn magazines in the house, implying this meant Jose liked men, however the meaning would change if they belonged to Erik.[64] Erik alleged his mother "made it seem like it was worse than death to be gay, and I didn't think I was, I just—I don’t know", and followed up by saying he liked girls.[20]: 271 

The prosecution wanted to allow the jury to see a screenplay that Lyle had written with his friend Craig in high school, a story about a wealthy young man who killed his parents for the inheritance money. Judge Weisberg ruled against it, saying the play was written too long before the shooting to have relevance.[20]: 181 

The defense also won a ruling against the use of the word "sociopath" in front of juries. Oziel told the court he had described to the boys the difference between a crime of passion, and a crime of assault, and that in response they described themselves as "sociopaths". The judge said the label was too prejudicial to announce in front of a jury.[20]: 187 

Both verdicts for the brothers were divided by gender; female jurors suggested voluntary manslaughter, while male jurors pushed for first-degree murder.[71] After a month of deliberations, the trial ended in a mistrial due to the two deadlocked juries.[72] As a result, Los Angeles County District Attorney Gil Garcetti immediately announced that the brothers would be retried.
Second trial (1995–1996)

The second trial was less publicized, in part because Judge Stanley Weisberg did not allow cameras in the courtroom because it would "increase the risk that jurors would be exposed to information and commentary about the case outside of the courtroom".[73][74]

Erik testified over 15 days about allegations of abuse. Judge Weisberg limited some of testimony about some of the allegations of abuse on the third day.[74] Judge Weisberg limited the defense to 64 total witnesses in the retrial.[74] Erik alleged that José had told him he was written out of the will.[74]

Lyle's former fiance, Jamie Pisarcik, testified that Lyle had tried to bribe her to testify falsely in the first trial. Pisarcik said that Lyle told her fictitious stories about the mob killing of his parents, which she originally believed. She testified that during a regular visit to see Lyle in prison, he offered her a large sum of money to claim that José Menendez made sexual advances towards her.[75]

Lyle did not testify in the second trial.[74] Conn told jurors that Lyle had asked his friend Brian Eslaminia to fabricate a story in the first trial. A 7 page letter was found by the police, allegedly written by Lyle detailing how he wanted him to testify.[76]

The prosecution also had another letter that Lyle had allegedly written to his ex girlfriend Traci Baker from jail. It included instructions on how to testify, with the sentence: "We will decide later around what date this incident occurred."[77] The defense disputed it's authenticity. Baker was not reached for comment.[77]

Prosecutor Conn challenged Erik's allegation that he was raped at the age of 18, when he had a vehicle and enough money to leave his parents home. Conn asked him why he did not join the army. Erik said he would not be safe from his father in the army, because he was "the most powerful man I've ever met". Erik said there was no witnesses to his allegations of sexual abuse.[74]

Psychology professor John Wilson, an expert witness for the defense testified that Erik had symptoms of PTSD which supported his allegations of abuse. Prosecution expert witness, psychiatrist Park Elliot Dietz countered that there was no way to know if he had PTSD because the allegations were unproven. He argued Erik did not show symptoms of "learned helplessness", as he had purchased guns and practiced with them at the shooting range.[74]

Leslie Abramson argued that the brothers acted out fear that their parents would harm them for threatening to reveal the family's secrets,[74] and that the killings were a "highly emotional overkill".[74]

Judge Weissberg determined that there was insufficient evidence to support the claim that the brothers were in imminent danger when they murdered their parents. Weisberg did allow the defense to argue that the brothers shot José in the heat of passion, but not their mother Kitty. He concluded there was enough evidence to suggest that José might have provoked his sons into committing homicide, but not enough to indicate that Kitty did.[74]

Klara Wright, wife of the attorney hired by the brothers, testified that the brothers had brought a safe to her home in hopes of locating a copy of their parents' will. The safe was opened two days after the murders, in the presence of Brian Andersen and Carlos Baralt, the brothers' uncles. It was found to be empty.[74] Conn argued this was evidence the brothers were trying to access their parents money as quickly as possbile.[74]

Both brothers were eventually convicted on two counts of first-degree murder with special circumstances for lying in wait, as well as conspiracy to murder; in the penalty phase of the trial, they were sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.[78][79]

During the penalty phase, Abramson reportedly told defense witness William Vicary to edit his own notes of meetings with Erik to remove potentially damning information, but the district attorney's office decided not to launch a criminal investigation of Abramson.[80] Both brothers also filed motions for a mistrial, claiming that they suffered irreversible damage in the penalty phase as a result of possible misconduct and ineffective representation by Abramson. On July 2, 1996, Weisberg sentenced the brothers to life in prison without the possibility of parole, to be served as consecutive sentences for the killings and the charges of conspiracy to commit murder.[79]

On April 4, 2018, Lyle was moved into the same housing unit as Erik, reuniting them for the first time since they began serving their sentences nearly 22 years earlier. The brothers said that they burst into tears and hugged each other during their first meeting in the housing unit. The unit where they are housed is reserved for inmates who agree to participate in education and rehabilitation programs without creating disruptions.[81][82][83]

In 2018, Lyle founded the prison reform and beautification initiative "The Green Space Project", which aims to make prisons more "livable" and rehabilitative by painting murals on walls and planting trees.[84][non-primary source needed] In June 2024, Lyle earned a bachelor's degree in Sociology through the University of California, Irvine's special college program for inmates of Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility.[85]
Appeals

On February 27, 1998, the California Court of Appeal upheld the brothers' murder convictions and, on May 28, 1998, the Supreme Court of California declined to review the case, thus allowing the decision of the appellate court to stand.[10] Both brothers filed habeas corpus petitions with the Supreme Court of California, which were denied in 1999. Having exhausted their appeal remedies in state court, they filed separate habeas corpus petitions in the United States District Court. On March 4, 2003, a magistrate judge recommended the denial of the petitions,[86] and the district court adopted the recommendation. The brothers then decided to appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. On September 7, 2005, a three-judge panel denied both their habeas corpus petitions.[7]

In May 2023, the brothers requested a new hearing based upon an allegation that their father had raped former Menudo member Roy Rosselló, who, at that time, was signed under RCA Records.[87] Specifically, on April 18, 2023, on a segment of the Today Show about a television documentary, Rosselló stated that when he was 14 years old, he was drugged and raped by José Menendez while he was visiting the Menendez family's home in New Jersey.[88] The appeal cites a letter allegedly written by Erik to his cousin, Andy Cano, in 1988, where Erik talked about the abuse.[89] On October 3, 2024, Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascón announced in a press conference that his office is actively reviewing the appeal.[90][91]
Marriages

On July 2, 1996, Lyle married Anna Eriksson at a ceremony attended by Abramson and his aunt Marta Menendez, officiated by Judge Nancy Brown; they divorced on April 1, 2001,[10] after Eriksson discovered that Lyle was cheating on her with another woman. In November 2003, Lyle married Rebecca Sneed at a ceremony in a visiting area of Mule Creek State Prison; they had known each other for around 10 years before their engagement.[92][93]

On June 12, 1999, Erik married Tammi Ruth Saccoman at Folsom State Prison in a prison waiting room. Tammi later stated: "Our wedding cake was a Twinkie. We improvised. It was a wonderful ceremony until I had to leave. That was a very lonely night."[94][95] In an October 2005 interview with ABC News, she described her relationship with Erik as "something that I've dreamed about for a long time. And it's just something very special that I never thought that I would ever have."[96]

In 2005, Saccoman self-published a book, They Said We'd Never Make It – My Life with Erik Menendez, but she said on CNN's Larry King Live that Erik also "did a lot of editing on the book".[97] In an interview with People magazine, she stated:

Not having sex in my life is difficult, but it's not a problem for me. I have to be emotionally attached, and I'm emotionally attached to Erik ... My family does not understand. When it started to get serious, some of them just threw up their hands.[94]

Saccoman also stated that she and her daughter drove 150 mi (240 km) every weekend to visit Erik, and that her daughter refers to him as her "Earth Dad".[94] Discussing his life sentence, Erik stated: "Tammi is what gets me through. I can't think about the sentence. When I do, I do it with a great sadness and a primal fear. I break into a cold sweat. It's so frightening I just haven't come to terms with it."[94]

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$ludge

[LAglamrocker]

What great time to be alive- awesome news stories and court cases
OJ was simply the GOAT
Menedez Brothers solid 8.5 in fun
John Bobbitt…9.5 in fun
Joey Buttafuoco 10
Nancy Kerrigan “soap opera “ 9.5

[aznsquirt]

I want LAglamrocker's take on Crystal Howell

[LAglamrocker]

I asked Google “ who the hell is Crystal Howell?”
Her story is nothing spectacular… you just can’t become legendary with her story. Some fun things like installing stripper pole in kitchen while dad rotted …that’s kind of fun

Her story is like being backup guard on North Carolina one year…while the others listed above all became Larry Bird great

I can see Menedez Brothers sharing Crystal in the same afternoon

[aznsquirt]

LMAO

[GoodJudge]

Who are the "Menedez" brothers?

Google them... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_and_Erik_Menendez

You missed his point. You missed an "n".

At least the POSs did A LOT of time, unlike too many other rich POSs that buy their way out or use their influence to stop charges being pressed or concluded in the first place. (Hi Donnie).

[AlexVonHaig]

DA is way down in the polls. Publicity stunt. Set more guilty people free, seems to do well these days

[CoreyRotic007]

I’d like to see them set free simply because their story has helped to restore the good name of Milli Vanilli.

I don’t give a fuck who sang those songs, they hit ‘different’ than 99% of pop songs I’ve ever heard.

The fact that the Milli Vanilli album was deleted immediately is a travesty when R. Kelly, Lostprophets, and various other kididdlers still get to sell their albums and have some income. Plus, they were shamed like fuck and treated like they murdered each of our beloved dogs.

That’s the real injustice, here.

As for the brothers, psssh, whatever. Let them out. Require them get Joe-jobs as a condition of their release. They’ll either get by or beg to go back to prison and that’s fun too. Who cares, I don’t know them and can’t see them doing it again.

I never murdered my parents but I did a bunch of stupid shit when I was a kid that I’m not going to do again.

And, since I’m imagining release conditions for these two, they each get kicked in the balls by Fab from Milli Vanilli twice weekly - once for Rob’s death and once for himself and 35 years of lost revenue for nostalgia tours.

Because, we forgive murderers and not lip synchers…or “influencers” as we now call these type of entertainers. They’d do great on arena nostalgia tours if Rob was still alive. They sold a shitload of copies of that music - including to many of us, don’t lie - in an extremely short amount of time.

That album would be diamond by now.

And Blame it on the Rain is the goddamn jam.

Free Milli Vanilli

[Frigo Fantom]

It didn’t say it in the wiki article but I was under the impression that they had seen the Judd Nelson miniseries, The Billionaire Boys Club, and decided to copy a murder from that story.

There is a famous basketball card of Mark Jackson that shows the brothers sitting in the first row while out on their post murder spending spree.