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This might be difficult to answer. Most of our favorite albums likely have an outside producer. Sometimes bands get more control, kick the producer out, and it becomes worse. So, what are some of the best examples of self-produced albums? It has to be produced only by current members of the band and there can't even be a co-producer credit by an outsider.

Jimmy Page produced all of Led Zeppelin's albums.

Pretty sure anything by Prince. "Purple Rain" comes to mind.

Muse "The Resistance" "2nd Law" "Will Of The People"

Extreme "Six"

Tom Scholz - Boston

"Tom Scholz - Boston"

^^^ This is the correct answer

Prince and Richie Kotzen are the first to come to mind. I think Huey Lewis & the News produced their own records too. Slaughter too.

Really could go with Elec Circus, Headless Children as well.

Producing credits are overrated, it's the engineers that deserve most of the praise for what you actually hear.

Gibsonite wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:25 pm Producing credits are overrated, it's the engineers that deserve most of the praise for what you actually hear.

Sometimes bands are cool enough to let the engineer also have production credit. Queensryche did it for Jimbo Barton.

Gibsonite wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:25 pm Producing credits are overrated, it's the engineers that deserve most of the praise for what you actually hear.

True story

Gibsonite wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:25 pm Producing credits are overrated, it's the engineers that deserve most of the praise for what you actually hear.

The drop in quality from COTN/LIU and prior, to the craptacular Animalize/Asylum/HITS would suggest otherwise.

HueyRamone wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:24 pm

Gibsonite wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:25 pm Producing credits are overrated, it's the engineers that deserve most of the praise for what you actually hear.

The drop in quality from COTN/LIU and prior, to the craptacular Animalize/Asylum/HITS would suggest otherwise.

To be fair, not even George Martin and Eddie Kramer put together could polish those turds

Lex Hives by The Hives is one for me. Love most things they do, but that was all killer for me.

Iron Maiden - Virtual XI

Mine, of course.

Particularly these two…

(1993)
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5 ... RfRJsBp_v3

(2021)
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtox ... P42LlB1w5E

Gibsonite wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:25 pm Producing credits are overrated, it's the engineers that deserve most of the praise for what you actually hear.

Completely untrue. The sound is important, but there are thousands of great sounding albums no one gives a shit about. A GOOD producer is like the director of a film and is responsible for pulling all the material and arrangements together and also getting the best performances out of the artists.if they happen to either be a great engineer or happen to use a great engineer it’s a definite plus.

Gibsonite wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:12 pm

HueyRamone wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:24 pm

Gibsonite wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:25 pm Producing credits are overrated, it's the engineers that deserve most of the praise for what you actually hear.

The drop in quality from COTN/LIU and prior, to the craptacular Animalize/Asylum/HITS would suggest otherwise.

To be fair, not even George Martin and Eddie Kramer put together could polish those turds

Speaking of Kiss, Vinnie Vincent self produced both Invasion albums.

Somewhere in my top 5 albums of the rock era is Rod Stewart's "Every Picture Tells a Story" which he self-produced.

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:33 am

Love_Industry wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:16 pm Speaking of Kiss, Vinnie Vincent self produced both Invasion albums.

With Dana Strum. Who from all accounts did the lions share of arranging the songs etc. Not surprising that VV hasn’t been able to produce jack shit without a good collaborator.

Maybe, but other Dana Strum productions - Kik Tracee, Kuni, Sister Whiskey - didn't exactly set the world on fire either. He's hardly a Mutt Lange or Tom Wernan. Not even Tom Allom.

Love_Industry wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:36 am

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:33 am

Love_Industry wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:16 pm Speaking of Kiss, Vinnie Vincent self produced both Invasion albums.

With Dana Strum. Who from all accounts did the lions share of arranging the songs etc. Not surprising that VV hasn’t been able to produce jack shit without a good collaborator.

Maybe, but other Dana Strum productions - Kik Tracee, Kuni, Sister Whiskey - didn't exactly set the world on fire either. He's hardly a Mutt Lange or Tom Wernan. Not even Tom Allom.

not really familiar with Kuni, but I thought the Kik Tracee and Sister Whiskey albums were pretty fucking good.

Adam Young, aka Owl City, self produced nearly everything he's ever released.

tooth wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:04 am Adam Young, aka Owl City, self produced nearly everything he's ever released.

Unfortunately, some of his stuff sounds horribly self-produced, like a teen who got a Casio and Commodore 64 for Christmas.

This thread begins and ends with Tom Scholz/Boston.