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Are you into Zappa?

Or are you into chicks?

Chicks

I can appreciate what he did (but not enjoy it), and I did like his perspectives on the world. Dweezil doing his Zappa Plays Zappa thing is a testimony to his abilities, and he seems like a pretty cool guy on his YouTube channel, but I'd never go see that.

I'd take chicks over any band, unless it was like Veruca Salt in their prime - bc they're chicks.

I remember the song Valley Girl. One hit wonder.

Where’s the friggin’ “BOTH” option? It IS possible, you know.

DemonFilth2001 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:13 pm I remember the song Valley Girl. One hit wonder.

Fer sure.

I much prefer his interviews to his music.
For me he rarely sublimated his intellect into enjoyable art

Zappa is bigger than Mozart.

DangerZone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:00 pm I much prefer his interviews to his music.
For me he rarely sublimated his intellect into enjoyable art

Same. Most folks that worked with him hold him in high regard. Here’s George Duke talking about working with Zappa.

https://youtu.be/ERFUbX648S4?si=zZQTWmjyoevDUHxk

I can appreciate his music, I just don’t like most of it all that much.

dmbrocker wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:17 pm Where’s the friggin’ “BOTH” option? It IS possible, you know.

Exactly!

Put on Zappa’s version of Stolen Moments/Murder by Numbers and watch the chicks swoon!

https://youtu.be/Uj9N8ujYSsY?si=ibVOy_zNT5H2dw9X

Turner Coates wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:37 pm Zappa is bigger than Mozart.

Was that Moggio?

He really made Zappa sound so unappealing, it's weird the amount of effort he put into that.

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:23 pm

Turner Coates wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:37 pm Zappa is bigger than Mozart.

Was that Moggio?

He really made Zappa sound so unappealing, it's weird the amount of effort he put into that.

The "Grisham boss versus Moggio" thread was one of sludge's best. Ninth chords, Michael Hutchence, that guy was opinionated. Does anyone have the Violent Nun mascot photoshopped with Ole' Googly?

DangerZone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:00 pm I much prefer his interviews to his music.
For me he rarely sublimated his intellect into enjoyable art

That is very well stated.

As talented as he may have been, he couldn't write a memorable hook or melody to save his life. He will be remembered more for one gimmick song and giving his kids fucked up names.

Danzig in the Dark wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:58 pm

DemonFilth2001 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:13 pm I remember the song Valley Girl. One hit wonder.

Fer sure.

Ok, fine.

I just discovered this last month, a couple of decades late:


https://youtu.be/ZwFf9vGRqcs?si=nAGVplVVQZRpsMPh


Oh and both.

HoldenSSV wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:40 pm

DangerZone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:00 pm I much prefer his interviews to his music.
For me he rarely sublimated his intellect into enjoyable art

That is very well stated.

As talented as he may have been, he couldn't write a memorable hook or melody to save his life. He will be remembered more for one gimmick song and giving his kids fucked up names.

He wasn't interested in "memorable hooks". They were for shallow people. As far as he was concerned, he was a genius and nearly everyone else wasn't. lf you were on his musical wavelength then great, but he disdained everyone else. So many of his lyrics (that I've heard, which is the Greatest Hits and a couple of other albums) are punching down on 'lesser' people, meaning anyone not called Frank Zappa.

I can appreciate his skill. Being a musician I can hear him and be impressed by what he has composed, I love the stories Steve Vai tells of meeting and playing with him, I liked hearing his political observations, and I even considered seeing Dweezil's Zappa Plays Zappa when it came through on tour.

If Zappa's music was playing right now I would be turning it off though...as impressed by his abilities as I may be.