Would quiet riot have had more sustained and continued success if Kevin DuBrow had looked like Bret Michaels?

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Would quiet riot have had more sustained and continued success if Kevin DuBrow had looked like Bret Michaels?

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Nah, but if he kept his mouth shut, yes. Dont get me wrong, Loved Kevin, but there was a time when they were in the spotlight where he would put down other bands, etc. I think that hurt them a bit.
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Quiet Riot with Bret Michaels singing would've been TUFF!
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Kevin looking like Jesse Harte would have kept Quiet Riot huge and outsold Bon Jovi 1987-1992
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No, they ran out of Slade songs.
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Quiet Riot had a lot of problems. DuBrow looking like a cock, DuBrow acting like a cock...

...but also just a lack of decent songs with an identifiable point of view.

Liiiiiike, their shit was all just about rocking out or some such shit. There was no POV "voice" for the band, and by QR3 the lyrics had gotten so generic that they could have been from any band.
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Outside of the non Slade songs not being memorable they were not the most attractive band and in that era that mattered.
Dubrow-had a Chia Pet on his head
Banali-looked like a mongoloid version of Eric Carr
Cavazo-that hairstyle is part Theo Von part Joe Dirt
Sarzo-looked like if Cher went Trans

I like them but they just didn't keep up with the bands lapping them like Crue,Ratt,Poison,Leppard.....
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I think I side with the "didn't have the tunes" team.

If they did have the tunes, the answer to your question is Motley Crue.
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HoldenSSV wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:43 pm No, they ran out of Slade songs.
That. Sad that both Quiet Riot and Great White's biggest "hits" were cover songs.

Way too much adoration for being one-hit wonders in the genre.
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Quiet Riot were lucky to have any success at all.
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DonJuanDeMarco wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:00 pm Quiet Riot with Bret Michaels singing would've been TUFF!
So no success whatsoever
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No. They either couldn't write songs or were too lazy to.

They struck gold with "Metal Health" and covering "Feel the Noize," but 99% of everything else they did was un-fucking-listenable. I like a few other tunes - "Sign of the Time" and "Condition Critical" are cool - but they weren't like Ratt/Dokken/Poison, who could always go into the studio and come up with something that was at least OKAY. I mean, Quiet Riots label once "suspended" them because the songs they were coming up with were so bad. I remember buying Down to The Bone - their 90s reunion album - and just being disgusted. Not a listenable song to be found.

40 years and countless albums after Metal Health, they were struggling to fill a 40 minute set opening for Ratt when I saw them a while back.

And I loved QR as a kid. I forced myself to try and enjoy garbage like "Stomp Your Hands" and "Red Alert." I love Carlos and Rudy and still stop and check out what they're doing from time to time. Went and saw them with Jizzy a couple times and had a pretty good time.

But they just weren't a very good band.
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I mean listen to this shit... this is their attempt at ripping off Cherry Pie/Unskinny Bop: "Slam Dunk"

https://youtu.be/mxV7cW95O8o?si=PKd_Itga36zgVCvz

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FreddyFender wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:02 pm No. They either couldn't write songs or were too lazy to.

They struck gold with "Metal Health" and covering "Feel the Noize," but 99% of everything else they did was un-fucking-listenable. I like a few other tunes - "Sign of the Time" and "Condition Critical" are cool - but they weren't like Ratt/Dokken/Poison, who could always go into the studio and come up with something that was at least OKAY. I mean, Quiet Riots label once "suspended" them because the songs they were coming up with were so bad. I remember buying Down to The Bone - their 90s reunion album - and just being disgusted. Not a listenable song to be found.

40 years and countless albums after Metal Health, they were struggling to fill a 40 minute set opening for Ratt when I saw them a while back.

And I loved QR as a kid. I forced myself to try and enjoy garbage like "Stomp Your Hands" and "Red Alert." I love Carlos and Rudy and still stop and check out what they're doing from time to time. Went and saw them with Jizzy a couple times and had a pretty good time.

But they just weren't a very good band.
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Pretty sure anyone would have had better success if they looked like Brett Michaels circa 1988
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So, it's pretty easy to say they didn't have enough songs in them, but I also don't think it's fair to say that they couldn't write a good song on their own. Metal Health, Let's Get Crazy, Slick Black Cadillac, Party All Night and especially The Wild and The Young were all solid tracks that went over well live, and they were able to still produce some decent tracks later on like I Can't Hold On.

Their issue was DuBrow's ego, and if he looked BETTER, it would have been even worse for the band.

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Anthrax442 wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:18 pm So, it's pretty easy to say they didn't have enough songs in them, but I also don't think it's fair to say that they couldn't write a good song on their own. Metal Health, Let's Get Crazy, Slick Black Cadillac, Party All Night and especially The Wild and The Young were all solid tracks that went over well live, and they were able to still produce some decent tracks later on like I Can't Hold On.

Their issue was DuBrow's ego, and if he looked BETTER, it would have been even worse for the band.

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Earl Skakel wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:07 pm Dubrow-had a Chia Pet on his head
Yeah, but he let it grow out for QRIII
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DangerZone wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:37 pm
Earl Skakel wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:07 pm Dubrow-had a Chia Pet on his head
Yeah, but he let it grow out for QRIII
But the ridiculousness of what his hairline was to what it became on The Wild And The Young video was insanity!! You would think with his brother being a top plastic surgeon out here that the follicle problem could have been handled with say more subtleness.
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out of all the 80's bands that floated to the top in their prime. I to this day think QR was good for the 80's but never got out of it. They were dated and stale a few years later. Their most well known tracks were covers. The sound, the tones, the style, all 80's and they could not escape it.
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Nah. I love their songs, but, as others mentioned, apart from "Cum On Feel the Noize" (and to a lesser extent, "Bang Your Head") they didn't have much in the way of instant hit material, and as much as I love their follow-up singles and albums, those two songs rightly cemented them as one-hit wonders. And Kevin and his massive ego running his big mouth didn't help.
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I like the first 2 albums alot (esp the "first") but there was a reason they didnt get their first national deal till they were 30.
If Kevin hadnt done the coke, they would've/could've continued the nice run they had going as replacement singer version still does good business
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Cum on feel the noize wasn’t even a good song, at best ok-ish in the slade version.
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