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Ralph2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:07 pm Weird to release this section -

No hook, vox, etc....

Phil, while looking good for a 70 year old dude, should not wear mesh....

Also, they focus on one person at the end in the crowd, who's literally old an bald......Strange

Not suer what the "tease" is......

How about a hot chick in a vintage convertible with a kick-ass riff like Sex Action...??????????

Prob would get me to preorder quicker, just sayin................................

Ralph2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:07 pm No hook

Tyketto Meniketti wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:20 pm Looks like they switched labels to Cleopatra.

Fat_Elvis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:59 pm

Ralph2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:07 pm No hook

That's their brand.

Ralph2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:07 pm
Also, they focus on one person at the end in the crowd, who's literally old an bald......Strange

PhrozenInferno wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:35 am Whomever mentioned this bands lack of hooks has absolutely nailed it. Cool image and attitude in the beginning but that part was always missing.

Few genuine questions -

1. How the fuck are they still interested in writing songs around these dumb riffs, 40 years in?

2. Who is this new stuff realistically for? I’m assuming their shows are all 80s/90s era stuff?

3. Why would a ‘label’ pay for this? Do they actually make any of their guarantee/advance back? Do advances at this level even exist?

4. If they genuinely love writing this stuff in 2025, then more power to them. But I just don’t see who is gaining here. Money or joy or otherwise? It certainly isn’t hooks.

Tyketto Meniketti wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:14 am

PhrozenInferno wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:35 am Whomever mentioned this bands lack of hooks has absolutely nailed it. Cool image and attitude in the beginning but that part was always missing.

Few genuine questions -

1. How the fuck are they still interested in writing songs around these dumb riffs, 40 years in?

2. Who is this new stuff realistically for? I’m assuming their shows are all 80s/90s era stuff?

3. Why would a ‘label’ pay for this? Do they actually make any of their guarantee/advance back? Do advances at this level even exist?

4. If they genuinely love writing this stuff in 2025, then more power to them. But I just don’t see who is gaining here. Money or joy or otherwise? It certainly isn’t hooks.

This makes no sense. "Hooks" are as subjective as anything else in life. But it's pretty clear they had plenty of songs that were catchy (or whatever descriptor you want to use) to have a catalog as deep as theirs. You don't have to like these tunes, but if you don't hear the hook, that's on you to go listen to some death metal then.

One More Reason
Sex Action
Electric Gypsy
Shoot For Thrills < You're deaf if you don't hear the hook in this tune.
Never Enough
Jayne
Malaria < Again, you're deaf if you don't hear it here. Grunge 2 years before Nirvana.
Wheels of Fire
Over the Edge < Hooky enough to be on the Point Break soundtrack AND Melrose Place at the time.
Big House
Kiss My Love Goodbye
It's Over Now
Ain't the Same
Long Time Dead
Fade Away
Killing Machine
Ritual
Time
Man in the Moon
Beautiful
Waking the Dead
Ok, Let's Roll
Revolution
Hollywood's Burning
Hollywood Forever
You Better Not Love Me
Underneath the Sun < You can't hear a hook here? Deaf.
Arana Negra
Speed < Deaf!
Christine
Flood's the Fault
Devil Made Me Do It
Gave It All Away
Let You Down
Better Than You

Jason Jennifer Leigh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:35 pm I dig it … they’ve been killing it since the reunion.

Wild Obsession wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:12 pm

Jason Jennifer Leigh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:35 pm I dig it … they’ve been killing it since the reunion.

If by "killing it", you mean releasing a glut of forgettable filler, since the (faux) reunion, then yes I agree.

However, IMO this is the best single the reunion has produced.

Phil's vocals sound weird?, like he is singing higher than he normally does, and the guitars are a little too clean.

Ralph2 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:40 pm

Wild Obsession wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:12 pm

Jason Jennifer Leigh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:35 pm I dig it … they’ve been killing it since the reunion.

If by "killing it", you mean releasing a glut of forgettable filler, since the (faux) reunion, then yes I agree.

However, IMO this is the best single the reunion has produced.

Phil's vocals sound weird?, like he is singing higher than he normally does, and the guitars are a little too clean.

It sounds to me, unconfirmed of course, that the vox take is blended and there's a chick singer layered in - Who knows.

The vox mix toward the end of V1 leaves a lot to be desired.

Not a fan of the "cleanish" guitars, bring the rock dirt!

Tyketto Meniketti wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:14 am

PhrozenInferno wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:35 am Whomever mentioned this bands lack of hooks has absolutely nailed it. Cool image and attitude in the beginning but that part was always missing.

Few genuine questions -

1. How the fuck are they still interested in writing songs around these dumb riffs, 40 years in?

2. Who is this new stuff realistically for? I’m assuming their shows are all 80s/90s era stuff?

3. Why would a ‘label’ pay for this? Do they actually make any of their guarantee/advance back? Do advances at this level even exist?

4. If they genuinely love writing this stuff in 2025, then more power to them. But I just don’t see who is gaining here. Money or joy or otherwise? It certainly isn’t hooks.

This makes no sense. "Hooks" are as subjective as anything else in life. But it's pretty clear they had plenty of songs that were catchy (or whatever descriptor you want to use) to have a catalog as deep as theirs. You don't have to like these tunes, but if you don't hear the hook, that's on you to go listen to some death metal then.

One More Reason
Sex Action
Electric Gypsy
Shoot For Thrills < You're deaf if you don't hear the hook in this tune.
Never Enough
Jayne
Malaria < Again, you're deaf if you don't hear it here. Grunge 2 years before Nirvana.
Wheels of Fire
Over the Edge < Hooky enough to be on the Point Break soundtrack AND Melrose Place at the time.
Big House
Kiss My Love Goodbye
It's Over Now
Ain't the Same
Long Time Dead
Fade Away
Killing Machine
Ritual
Time
Man in the Moon
Beautiful
Waking the Dead
Ok, Let's Roll
Revolution
Hollywood's Burning
Hollywood Forever
You Better Not Love Me
Underneath the Sun < You can't hear a hook here? Deaf.
Arana Negra
Speed < Deaf!
Christine
Flood's the Fault
Devil Made Me Do It
Gave It All Away
Let You Down
Better Than You

Whatever Happened To… wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:24 am I don't mind it but it doesn't sound like L.A Guns - I'm hearing more Ratt (specifically Round and Round) and Cinderella in there. I think it's because Phil's voice sounds so different.

Will come back to it a few times to see if it sticks.