Possibly the MOST KISStarded KISStardery in all of KISStory..my ELDER Musical REMIX!-updated to include “balls” version

[Wiseacre]

But no apologies...

Here is my EXPANDED (Music from) the ELDER reimagined as a full 2-Act Musical called "A WORLD WITHOUT HEROES" (not that there's anything wrong with that). Several months in the making (early retirement is sweet). The guys have invited me back on THREE SIDES OF THE COIN next week to discuss it in detail. I will do my best again to not them get a word in edgewise.

DETAILS:
I became a KISS fan in 1977 and got the ELDER the day it was released back in November of 1981. I had already gotten the 45 of "A World Without heroes" and "Dark Light" and had seen the photos of their new "look" in 16 Magazine. Unlike a lot of fans, I knew I was fascinated and excited about this "new" KISS and fell in love with the album. It grew to be almost an obsession of mine over the years and the ELDER has always been a favorite (not just KISS) album. It's a shame it was released at a time when KISS was at their lowest point because I think it is a great collection of songs with superb musicianship even if it always had an "unfinished" feel to it. I even named my very first band back in 1982 ODYSSEY after the song on this album. It is a tragedy that the band does not recognize the fantastic music that fills this album. It adds so much depth to their overall amazing catalog and should be celebrated.

When I decided to try my hand at a fan remix (there will be a more "straightforward" version as well) I thought it would be a great creative exercise to apply my decades of musical, songwriting and production experience to turn it into a full-on Broadway-style musical. For this I ended up using most of the unreleased demos and other material I could find to fill in the story and assemble what I hope is a full "odyssey" for other KISS fans.

I literally worked on it every single day for several months and there is just WAY too much to describe in this details section, so I urge everyone to look out for the THREE SIDES OF THE COIN Podcast I will be doing next week all about this process. Aside from the usual remixing and sometimes re-arranging, I also constructed several new versions of some of the original songs as well as some brand-new music from demoes and other album sources. There are several "guest" appearances by some very talented YouTubers who are all credited below.

I strongly urge everyone to please download the PDF file in the link below. It has a song-by-song (scene-by-scene) walk through explaining the entire "show" every step of the way and will help the whole thing make much better sense. One of the main goals of mine was to give Paul a much stronger role in the album since I feel like he was seriously underutilized on the original album whereas Gene really SHINES on it. I have used some of the unreleased material to help bring his fantastic "rock" voice (which is completely absent of the original) into the project. Depending on what is discussed on the Podcast, I may even do a video explaining everything I did from a more technical angle for those who are interested in that sort of thing.

I did not shoe-horn anything in and made everything fit the story line. This includes changing lyrics in some spots and even adding some new lyrics in a couple spots. Some unreleased material just didn't really work for the project, and some was only used in pieces as you'll hear when you listen to it.

I definitely recommend getting some headphones, opening that PDF and following along for the full experience. My hope is that existing Elder fans will appreciate this expanded version and that the rest will give this album another chance.

Gene Simmons: Bass/Vocals
Paul Stanley: Guitar/Vocals, Solo on “Just A Boy” And “A World Without Heroes”
Ace Frehley: Guitar/Vocals
Eric Carr: Drums/Backing Vocals, Acoustic Guitar on "Under The Rose"
Bob Ezrin: Organ on "Nowhere To Run" And More
Allan Schwartzberg: Drums on "Odyssey" And "I"
Tony Powers: Keyboards on "Odyssey"
The American Symphony Orchestra and St. Robert's Choir
Michael Kamen: Orchestral Arrangements

Special Guests:

Doro Pesch: Vocals on “Legends Never Die” And “Only You (Part 2) Germany
Carmine Apice: Drums) on ”Take Me Away (Together As One)“
Bob Kulick: Guitar on ”Take Me Away (Together As One)“
Steve Buslowe: Bass on ”Take Me Away (Together As One)“
John Regan: Bass on “’A Malevolent Order (Don’t Run)
Nicoletta Rosselini: Vocals on “Odyssey” And “Odyssey (Reprise)” Italy
Paolo Campitelli: Piano on “Odyssey (Reprise)” Italy
Thorn Di Massilia: Acoustic Guitar/Vocals on “A World Without Heroes (Part 1) *New York/London*
Alyona Yarushina: Vocals on “A World Without Heroes (Part 3)” *Russia *
Karine: Vocals on “A World Without Heroes (Part 3)” YouTube Clip
Eddie Arndt: Harmony Vocals on “A World Without Heroes (Part 3)” * Germany *
Guy From Youtube Channel Called "The Army Bass: Bass on “The Light In His Eyes”
Kenn Nardi: Guitar and Bass on “Council Of The Elder”, additional Sequencing and Orchestration throughout the album.

This version of (music from) The Elder was conceived, constructed, edited, arranged and mixed by Kenn Nardi for the enjoyment of other Kiss fans.

YOUTUBE PLAYLIST:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... T332SmRg_0

Please pass it on to any KISS fans you are accidentally friends with. My silly YouTube channel with all of my KISS remixes is almost at 2M clicks and it would be cool if this put it over.

[Wiseacre]

Damn 50 clicks and zero balls even broken? TF is wrong with SLUDGE?

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Damn 50 clicks and zero balls even broken? TF is wrong with SLUDGE?

Nah man, this shit is cool.

[Wiseacre]

Not sure about the weird drums during Mr Blackwell, what prompted that decision?

Council of the Elder showed they had some good prog ideas that ended up on the cutting room floor.

Those are syncopated fills from “Breakout/Carr Jam”. I was initially making a fake live “LOST ALIVE III” which was gonna be all post A2 material using FRIDAYS, Sydney/Aukland ‘80 and more. “Mr. Blackwell” was the new God of Thunder and had the blood and blood he transition to Eric’s drum solo and his is more or less “Carr Jam”. I had Eric doing those cool, syncopated fills in the “holes” in the verse to tie it together with his solo. If you watch New York Groove from Sydney he does some similar stuff in that song.

Anyhow everyone else loves it and so do I (I think Eric would too), it the “straight” remix I’ll be posting soon will have the regular album drums and none of the additional vocalists or any of that stuff. Just the original album songs remixes with minimal changes like hard endings instead of fades, etc.

As for “Council”, this is the biggest “cheat” in the album. Al that I could find is the shitty cassette (room) recording of the demo. I had to play the guitar and bass on that becasue it just was way too crappy to get any kind of separation that was decent enough to use. I copied Eric’s drum and it’s pretty much the baseline. I added the organ and a few other things. I really wanted to kick off the album with something uptempo and really wanted to use that piece of music. It’s very Zeppelin.

Other poster: The only changes to Dark Light aside form the remix is that I fixed Ace’a timing a tiny bit here and there. Barely noticeable but he always ahead of the beat in the chorus. The ending is different too, but nothing else. Maybe your turntable ran slow in 1981?

[Wiseacre]

Only ever had the 97 remaster.

I hate the “original” running order. The story is pretty much a half baked King Arthur anyhow so the narrative is only half of a story no matter what the order is. Opening with the Oath was a WAY better running order. It’s like a film that opens with the setup and then goes back to tell the story. The US version we all knew was very well balanced (musically) . The Japanese version is ridiculously lopsided with almost all of the heavy stuff on the 2nd half.

[TheSurgeon]

When I decided to try my hand at a fan remix (there will be a more "straightforward" version as well) I thought it would be a great creative exercise to apply my decades of musical, songwriting and production experience to turn it into a full-on Broadway-style musical.

You upped the "gay" by a factor of 10. So mission accomplished, I guess.

The Oath with Ace's solos from the Fridays performance is awesome, so thanks for that at least.

[Jason Jennifer Leigh]

This is awesome.

Thank you.

[Wiseacre]

The Oath with Ace's solos from the Fridays performance is awesome, so thanks for that at least.

Why wasn’t that included in this?

It’s the last track after the “Closing Medley”. A *bonus track*. The reason I didn’t put his solos in the version of this extended album is because I used them in the Closing Medley instead over the altered “Oath” riff I made. The “regular” remix I’ll be uploading has the Ace version on the regular album.

[Wiseacre]

You upped the "gay" by a factor of 10.

Thanks!

[alleyrulez]

what I've heard so far is fucking awesome.

[Wiseacre]

what I've heard so far is fucking awesome.

You should see the dumbass hypocritical attacks over at the FAQ where a certain other content creator (who is BFFs with the admin who bans anyone for not kissing his ass) is on a mission to attack me, keep people from seeing my stuff, etc (everything he accuses a certain well-known video guy of doing for him). The fucking petty jealousy is embarrassing. Their heads are exploding because as they try and shit on my stuff (as usual) other posters keep ignoring and praising it, haha.

it's literally always the same. This remix has like 4K views in less than a day and literally 100% praise and then the babies at the FAQ start with their comments to "drag me down a notch", I guess. Comments like this...


"not a fan of anything this guy does. always surprises me that anyone is."

followed by

"Me too. This Elder thing is really bad in the sense that some of things that are being mashed together just don't work. Like it was put together by someone who doesn't understand music."

Listen, I am 100% self-taught and don’t want to sound arrogant, but Ezrin himself would probably shake my fucking hand for how I managed to put that all together. Anyone who knows anything about music would know that. Whether you like the results is another story, but I didn't just slap the shit together like necramonium, the other one who originally asked for my help, slapped my name on his Ozzy thing for more views and then decided to go on a mission to talk shit about me and my stuff...right after my appearance on THREE SIDES OF THE COIN, BTW. Now they thing by accusing me of "blowing the gooch", they can turn people off of my stuff with guilt-by-association.

[kissfaq]

You should see the dumbass hypocritical attacks over at the FAQ where a certain other content creator (who is BFFs with the admin who bans anyone for not kissing his ass) is on a mission to attack me, keep people from seeing my stuff, etc (everything he accuses a certain well-known video guy of doing for him). The fucking petty jealousy is embarrassing. Their heads are exploding because as they try and shit on my stuff (as usual) other posters keep ignoring and praising it, haha.

And yet, your material isn't censored or removed. I may not have gotten every ban right, but the last thing I need is sycophants.

[Wiseacre]

You should see the dumbass hypocritical attacks over at the FAQ where a certain other content creator (who is BFFs with the admin who bans anyone for not kissing his ass) is on a mission to attack me, keep people from seeing my stuff, etc (everything he accuses a certain well-known video guy of doing for him). The fucking petty jealousy is embarrassing. Their heads are exploding because as they try and shit on my stuff (as usual) other posters keep ignoring and praising it, haha.

And yet, your material isn't censored or removed. I may not have gotten every ban right, but the last thing I need is sycophants.

Not that your buddy isn't trying his best. He tried to intimidate some guy what? a day or two ago who posted the Elder stuff. You have threatened and removed my stuff in the past, no? Of course you have. Now you just let people post bullshit about me and my reputation hoping they will fall for it and do the "censoring' for you. It would be better for you to just remove it, but you know that. Keeping them up gives your buddies a chance to shit on them. Real honorable of you. Give yourself a pat on the back for me.

Now you and your friends are doing EXACTLY what they accuse CG of doing figuring you won't look like an ass by just removing any mention of me. BTW, thank "sam" LOL for bumping that post where I make complete sense since I am not able to bump it myself. Does he know people are starting to catch on to his BS yet? And why do you keep letting your buddy say that the FBI was called over "KISS videos" and not a threat to blow someone's kid's brains out and shoot up his school (which he posted himself in his ridiculous "proof" webpage). I know his fan club don't bother to think and would rather KISS his ass in hopes of seeing some secret awesome videos by being his friend, but it's RIGHT fucking THERE in the police report and yet "called over KISS videos, LOL, how stupid" over and over. THAT is why I questioned the entire bullshit narrative in the first place. Andrew lies, Necra lies and you by omission lie too. Why does everyone believe this BS story? Because they think taking down CG will give them an open door to all of this imaginary video. It's obvious and they are mistaken.

Why don't you agree when I and others explain that people DO own and license KISS material? Didn't you even have something to do with some COTN boxset stuff? You know how it works.

Since I can't ask him myself, maybe you can ask your buddy why he didn't post an image of the the Google Drive that multiple people sent to me (who I don't even know) with his name right on it with ALL of KISS "stolen" footage???? Why would "sam loomis" throw his good friend under the bus by putting his name on it? Hmmm? Even if it was someone else can he truly not understand why people would THINK he is SL? I mean, he was editing video that no one had, he originally said he bought a "hard drive' (he told this to me directly over the phone) and then later said he didn't when he realized people wondered why buying, editing and uploading KNOWN stolen footage is OK, but lying about selling it other people was not. This kind of stuff is what puts him and his claims in a very bad light. You being so defensive about anyone asking questions logically made me question it even more.

These guilt by association tactics are childish and stupid. I had NO problem with him or Necra (who BOTH asked for my help) until I got a little too much attention, I guess. Necra even put my name on his Ozzy thing for more clicks and then took it off like asshole when I did 3 Sides. I also had NO problem with you or your site and posted there for years (I even bought your books) until you drew some stupid line and then pretended I crossed it when I have said over and over again that I never knew any of those guys 2 years and it's nobody's fucking business who I talk to or don't talk to. Your friends are shit-talking liars, so why would you care who I "defend"?

A couple questions for you:

Why don't you chime in when people are accusing me of "running to CG" or some shit when ANYONE, even my banned ass, can read the FAQ boards and they don't need me or anyone else to run and tell them what anyone says?

Why don't you tell them that all you have to do is a simple YouTube search or better yet subscribe to a channel to see exactly who posts what and when? I'm sure you know this. Plus, I don't care what anyone else posts and definitely don't need to urge CG to go after anyone's videos since that shit was happening (TO ME AS WELL) before I knew ANY of these people.

These are rhetorical questions, of course because we all know the answers already.

Now you'd better run back to your board and make sure those shit-talking threads are staying bumped up real high. Better yet, maybe just pin them in case anyone forgets that I "suck CG's cock" for 2 minutes. Somone might just enjoy a KISS video a fan put months into making for other fans if no one reminds them that I am supposedly BFFs with the big bad wolf.

[HueyRamone]

You should see the dumbass hypocritical attacks over at the FAQ where a certain other content creator (who is BFFs with the admin who bans anyone for not kissing his ass) is on a mission to attack me, keep people from seeing my stuff, etc (everything he accuses a certain well-known video guy of doing for him). The fucking petty jealousy is embarrassing. Their heads are exploding because as they try and shit on my stuff (as usual) other posters keep ignoring and praising it, haha.

And yet, your material isn't censored or removed. I may not have gotten every ban right, but the last thing I need is sycophants.

Not that your buddy isn't trying his best. He tried to intimidate the guy what a day or two ago who posted the Elder stuff. You have threatened and removed my stuff in the past, no? Of course you have. Now you just let people post bullshit about me and my reputation hoping they will fall for it and do the "censoring' for you. It would be better for you to just remove it, but you know that. Keeping them up gives your buddies a chance to shit on them. Real honorable of you. Give yourself a pat on the back for me.

Now you and your friends are doing EXACTLY what they accuse CG of doing figuring you won't look like an ass by just removing any mention of me. BTW, thank "sam" LOL for bumping that post where I make complete sense since I am not able to bump it myself. Does he know people are starting to catch on to his BS yet? And why do you keep letting your buddy that the FBI was called over "KISS videos" and not a threat to blow someone's kid's brains out and shoot up his school (which he posted himself in his ridiculous "proof" webpage). I know this fan club don't bother to think and would rather KISS his ass in hopes of seeing some secret awesome videos by being his friend, but it's RIGHT fucking THERE in the police report and still with the "called over KISS videos, LOL, how stupid" over and over. THAT is why I questioned the entire bullshit narrative in the first place. Andrew lies, Necra lies and you by omission lie too. Why does everyone believe this BS story? Because they think taking down CG will give them an open door to all of this imaginary video. It's obvious and they are mistaken.

Why don't you agree when I and others explain that people DO own a license KISS material? Didn't you even have something to do with some COTN boxset stuff? You know how it works.

Since I can't ask him myself, maybe you can ask your buddy why he didn't post the Google Drive that multiple people sent to me (who I don't even know) with his name right on it with ALL of KISS "stolen" footage???? Why would "sam loomis" throw his good friend under the bus by putting his name on it? Hmmm? Even if it was someone else can he truly not understand why people would THINK he is SL? I mean, he was editing video that no one had, he originally said he bought a "hard drive' (he told this to me directly over the phone) and then later said he didn't when he realized people wondered why buying, editing and uploading KNOWN stolen footage is OK, just as long as you don't lie about selling it other people. This kind of stuff is what puts him and his claims in a very bad light. Your being so defensive about anyone asking questions logically made me question it even more.

These guilt by association tactics are childish and stupid. I had NO problem with him or Necra (who BOTH asked for my help) until I got a little too much attention, I guess. Necra even put my name on his Ozzy thing for more clicks and then took it off like asshole when I did 3 Sides. I also had NO problem with you or your site and posted there for years (I even bought your books) until you drew some stupid line and then pretended I crossed it when I have said over and over again that I never knew any of those guys 2 years and it's nobody's fucking business who I talk to or don't talk to. Your friends are shit-talking liars, so why would you care who I "defend"?

A couple questions for you:

Why don't you chime in when people are accusing me of "running to CG" or some shit when ANYONE, even my banned ass, can read the FAQ boards and they don't need me or anyone else to run and tell them what anyone says?

Why don't you tell them that all you have to do is a simple YouTube search or better yet subscribe to a channel to see exactly who posts what and when? I'm sure you know this. Plus, I don't care what anyone else posts and definitely don't need to urge CG to go after anyone's videos since that shit was happening (TO ME AS WELL) before I knew ANY of these people.

These are rhetorical questions, of course because we all know the answers already.

Now you'd better run back to your board and make sure those shit-talking threads are staying bumped up real high. Better yet, maybe just pin them in case anyone forgets that I "suck CG's cock" for 2 minutes. Somone might just enjoy a KISS video a fan put months into making for other fans if no one reminds them that I am supposedly BFFs with the big bad wolf.

Now this is the real kistardation, not your triple disk prog rock upgrade!!

[Wiseacre]

Now this is the real kistardation, not your triple disk prog rock upgrade!!

Dude, if I knew 2 years ago what a pile of dogshit I was stepping in just trying to have some creative fun with old KISS stuff I’d have just kept releasing my own fucking music. It’a so fucking stupid.

[rockker]

Ah Kiss fans; can always count on them making it an embankment to like this band for us all.


Great job with the Elder stuff btw

[eddie lee roth]

I never saw the stuff that was up and then disappeared.

[Gibsonite]

The Oath is one of the best Kiss songs. World Without Heroes has always been one of those "guilty pleasure" songs for me too. Hell, I'd probably prefer this album to anything that came afterwards except for maybe COTN.

[CanadianMetal]

First of all , thanks for all the hard work , dedication , time and effort that went into doing this expanded Elder project !!!

I just came back at midnight from a dinner party when I found out about this new YouTube drop you did .

At first when I started to listen to this at midnight, I went a few songs in and it did not sound like a something that you had spent so much time on , then I realized I was listening at 1.25 speed and had to restart at proper speed . Now it sounds awesome ! Glad I noticed my mistake before wasting too much time lol .

[CanadianMetal]

Now up to Only you (part 2)

I remember talking to Doro after her concert in Washington state (outdoor all female fronted fest in the middle of nowhere ).


The first Doro album I bought was the one that Gene produced , and I asked her about how it was working with Gene. I was surprised when she replied that of ALL the producers she has ever worked with over her entire career, she learned the MOST from Gene Simmons.

We spoke for a while and then I had someone take a photo of Doro and I with my camera . She did something I have never seen any other superstar do , she asked to look at the photo and after studying the image , she says “I think we can do a much better photo” . I gave my camera back to the guy behind and and he took another one , and true to her word , that next photo turned out way better .

My respect for her went way up after that encounter. She is an absolute gem of a human.

I remember trying to get photos of her during her set and it was almost impossible to get a shot of her standing still. As she was so active and in constant motion . So much energy, in such a tiny package .

[Wiseacre]

First of all , thanks for all the hard work , dedication , time and effort that went into doing this expanded Elder project !!!

I just came back at midnight from a dinner party when I found out about this new YouTube drop you did .

At first when I started to listen to this at midnight, I went a few songs in and it did not sound like a something that you had spent so much time on , then I realized I was listening at 1.25 speed and had to restart at proper speed . Now it sounds awesome ! Glad I noticed my mistake before wasting too much time lol .

haha. I do that all the time. I'll watch true crime stuff on 1.25 to get through it faster and then I put a song on and I'm like WTF? Glad you like it. The ELDER rules!

Cool DORO story too.

[kissfaq]

Now you and your friends are doing EXACTLY what they accuse CG of doing figuring you won't look like an ass by just removing any mention of me.

Nope, have never allegedly stolen material from a client and sold it on to collectors. Have never allegedly presented myself under false pretense to leverage rare material from a target, like some Kolkata paypal scammer. Not a single false copyright takedown has been issued, nor has anyone impersonated UMG or other official entities to takedown material. For myself only, I've only ever issued a single copyright takedown on YT and it sure as shit wasn't for my photo, or any live concert footage. And let's be clear, I'm not suggesting YOU are doing any of that either. I'm not removing any mention of your efforts or cheerleading any negativity to you.

And that has nothing to do with rights. People clearly *do* own rights other than those using material. But doing the above in what seems like a lame attempt to cover one's tracks is problematic.

The only point from my perspective is the person(s) who allegedly obtained D2 archive material and sold it. The rest, including your expansive essays on the topic, are utterly irrelevant. The ID of the person allegedly re-selling the drive and individual videos is known, documented, and sufficiently provable in court. Same the ID of the person allegedly compiling the "drive" in the first place.

There is as well documented evidence of you communicating with CG. Your own posts.

It might be unfair to call you an CG apologist and lump you in with RR, RD, JS, and others, but your repeated TLDR posts certainly appeared deliberately diversionary. My apologies if that was incorrect. The seller, not the leaker. Your regurgitation of that point went far past the obtuse into perceived realm of deliberate with intent.

And this is why I stayed the fuck away from video (for the most part. I do own several shows and their non-musical rights. But I do most of my shit solo).

People are nuts, and on an already challenging message board, there's only so much one can handle between bots, nots, and snots. So I prefer to focus on my own, what some describe as mediocrity. Time is too short and too valuable to serve someone else's purposes.

[NeonKnite]

Ezrin himself would probably shake my fucking hand for how I managed to put that all together. Anyone who knows anything about music would know that.

[kytepunches]

Ezrin himself would probably shake my fucking hand for how I managed to put that all together. Anyone who knows anything about music would know that.

I don’t know about that , but I’m sure Bill Aucoin would give your nuts a rub.

[eddie lee roth]

This thread is even better than that shit sandwich career killer of a album now.

Let’s blow it up please.

Who here has the Sam Louis videos downloaded when they were out for everyone to see?

And I’d love to see them and I’m sure I’m not alone.

[HueyRamone]

Now you and your friends are doing EXACTLY what they accuse CG of doing figuring you won't look like an ass by just removing any mention of me.

Nope, have never allegedly stolen material from a client and sold it on to collectors. Have never allegedly presented myself under false pretense to leverage rare material from a target, like some Kolkata paypal scammer. Not a single false copyright takedown has been issued, nor has anyone impersonated UMG or other official entities to takedown material. For myself only, I've only ever issued a single copyright takedown on YT and it sure as shit wasn't for my photo, or any live concert footage. And let's be clear, I'm not suggesting YOU are doing any of that either. I'm not removing any mention of your efforts or cheerleading any negativity to you.

And that has nothing to do with rights. People clearly *do* own rights other than those using material. But doing the above in what seems like a lame attempt to cover one's tracks is problematic.

The only point from my perspective is the person(s) who allegedly obtained D2 archive material and sold it. The rest, including your expansive essays on the topic, are utterly irrelevant. The ID of the person allegedly re-selling the drive and individual videos is known, documented, and sufficiently provable in court. Same the ID of the person allegedly compiling the "drive" in the first place.

There is as well documented evidence of you communicating with CG. Your own posts.

It might be unfair to call you an CG apologist and lump you in with RR, RD, JS, and others, but your repeated TLDR posts certainly appeared deliberately diversionary. My apologies if that was incorrect. The seller, not the leaker. Your regurgitation of that point went far past the obtuse into perceived realm of deliberate with intent.

And this is why I stayed the fuck away from video (for the most part. I do own several shows and their non-musical rights. But I do most of my shit solo).

People are nuts, and on an already challenging message board, there's only so much one can handle between bots, nots, and snots. So I prefer to focus on my own, what some describe as mediocrity. Time is too short and too valuable to serve someone else's purposes.

Uh oh. Some harsh accusations here, ones i'm not sure Wiseacre will be able to refute....

[Chip Z'Hoy]

what I've heard so far is fucking awesome.

Same! I haven't had time to sit and listen to the whole thing but what I've heard sounds kind of amazing.

I've never been a big "Just a Boy" guy but I love how huge it sounds here. Really cool.

I've actually never been a big Elder guy but hearing all the material in this context, with this sound--I'm warming up to it a lot.

[Wiseacre]

Now you and your friends are doing EXACTLY what they accuse CG of doing figuring you won't look like an ass by just removing any mention of me.

Nope, have never allegedly stolen material from a client and sold it on to collectors. Have never allegedly presented myself under false pretense to leverage rare material from a target, like some Kolkata paypal scammer. Not a single false copyright takedown has been issued, nor has anyone impersonated UMG or other official entities to takedown material. For myself only, I've only ever issued a single copyright takedown on YT and it sure as shit wasn't for my photo, or any live concert footage. And let's be clear, I'm not suggesting YOU are doing any of that either. I'm not removing any mention of your efforts or cheerleading any negativity to you.

Julian, you know that is NOT what I meant with my comment as I went on to say in the post you are quoting.

People claim to be “targeted” and “harassed” by CG with false claims. You’ve written entire books so I’m sure you can follow the logic here.

Your board is full of of comments accusing me of being a friend and/or supporter of CG, implying that I had something to do with the whole Sam Loomis thing or that I KNOW he did something wrong and “support” him in it. They say I get “special treatment” which is BARELY true and that is because I ASKED permission rather than saying “fuck you, you fat fuck; I’ll do what I want”. There have been many tines where he has asked me to take things down or not to post something if I check with him. I spend a LOT of time on most of these projects and don’t want to waste my time. It’s that simple. Aside from a few seconds on my Dynasty concert video I don’t think you’ll find anything on my work that is in question. So, why do you also claim I get special boy treatment?

Then we’ve got Andrew telling everyone “don't watch this guys videos, don’t give him any attention” and “a win for Nardi is a win for Gooch” and shit like that. That’s the problem. There is no “winner” because it isn’t a contest. At least not in my mind. I am just making content that I always wanted to see or hear. I don’t feel I have any “right” to do anything, but if I can do it and the band or owners allow it, great. Obviously, a LOT more people would see it on YT, which is the entire point.

You still didn’t address the Google Drive with Andrew’s name right on it. Do you think it’s OK to give all of KISS’ archives away without their permission? If it wasn’t him, then it was “Sam Loomis” and “he” also posts there. It may be the other friend if his who’s name I’ve heard but can’t recall. That would a pretty shitty friend though to implicate him.

Andrew contacted me early on and asked me to help him clean up some footage for that ‘90s era thing he was doing, that I was pretty sure KISS themselves told him not to post. I asked him if that was the case and his response was basically “yeah, but I’ll get around that” which as an artist/musician honestly rubbed me the wrong way. You can see that attitude in his own “proof” emails with CG.

Likewise, Necramonium was messaging me months ago about his Cobo/Alive! sync thing he was going to do. I told him it was a waste of time (as I found out fir myself earlier) and that it would immediately be taken down and his attitude was basically ‘I don’t care” and that he’s gonna do whatever he wants to do. See a pattern here? I did. Now, follow that with his recent personal attacks on me after I did nothing but help him and you’ll understand why I question their credibility and other claims. It’s also funny that Necra made fancy little trailer for a documentary he was gonna make “exposing Sam Loomis” and then it disappeared from the face of the earth. I’ll wildly speculate that once he “exposed” who it was to himself it wasn’t who he thought, but someone he might need something from someday so the idea went right out the window.

You also didn’t respond to someone threatening to blow someone’s kid’s brains out, which in this day and age anyone would at least take seriously. You KNOW the FBI didn’t visit anyone over “KISS videos” yet you don’t correct anyone like you constantly did me every time I expressed an opinion on this topic. Andrew even posted the whole police report so this isn’t secret BFF of Curt knowledge.

You’re a smart guy, so I’m pretty sure you know that lawsuit against CG and others had absolutely nothing to do with any stolen hard drives. It was aldo dropped because it was ridiculous just like I predicted right before you banned me. NOT THAT THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME.

You just said above in your non-response “allegedly” stolen material. You won’t even say it is true, yet if anyone questions that claim they get banned. Now, if you were just an admin who stays out of the threads it would be one thing, but you don’t. You come in dropping 50 cent words with that pompous tone and play judge, jury and executioner. I’ve also seen you call me frankenidiiot or something along those lines. Well even an “idiot” like me can smell bullshit.

Most of the behavior you mentioned about CG above is directed at a couple people and I can’t say I blame him although fir the record I do NOT approve of lying about stuff just to get back at someone on a mission to smear you all over the internet. I have even told him that during our secret candle-lit dinners together.

Yiu also didn’t bother addressing the fact that anyone can read your boards even if they are banned (like me) so no one has to run to Curt and snitch. I let my work speak for itself and don’t need to snitch or try and take someone else’s stuff down, but not everyone handles things the same way as illustrated above (which is really at the heart of this whole matter).

You started this with me, Julian. I understand friend loyalties, but I never did anything to you and don’t appreciate it at all. I’m also not Necra who would cry to me about you and being banned and then crawl back to kiss your ass. Of course I liked sharing my stuff on the biggest KISS fan board, but I don’t need to be treated like that or kiss anyone’s ass.

[HueyRamone]

Now you and your friends are doing EXACTLY what they accuse CG of doing figuring you won't look like an ass by just removing any mention of me.

Nope, have never allegedly stolen material from a client and sold it on to collectors. Have never allegedly presented myself under false pretense to leverage rare material from a target, like some Kolkata paypal scammer. Not a single false copyright takedown has been issued, nor has anyone impersonated UMG or other official entities to takedown material. For myself only, I've only ever issued a single copyright takedown on YT and it sure as shit wasn't for my photo, or any live concert footage. And let's be clear, I'm not suggesting YOU are doing any of that either. I'm not removing any mention of your efforts or cheerleading any negativity to you.

Julian, you know that is NOT what I meant with my comment as I went on to say in the post you are quoting.

People claim to be “targeted” and “harassed” by CG with false claims. You’ve written entire books so I’m sure you can follow the logic here.

Your board is full of of comments accusing me of being a friend and/or supporter of CG, implying that I had something to do with the whole Sam Loomis thing or that I KNOW he did something wrong and “support” him in it. They say I get “special treatment” which is BARELY true and that is because I ASKED permission rather than saying “fuck you, you fat fuck; I’ll do what I want”. There have been many tines where he has asked me to take things down or not to post something if I check with him. I spend a LOT of time on most of these projects and don’t want to waste my time. It’s that simple. Aside from a few seconds on my Dynasty concert video I don’t think you’ll find anything on my work that is in question. So, why do you also claim I get special boy treatment?

Then we’ve got Andrew telling everyone “don't watch this guys videos, don’t give him any attention” and “a win for Nardi is a win for Gooch” and shit like that. That’s the problem. There is no “winner” because it isn’t a contest. At least not in my mind. I am just making content that I always wanted to see or hear. I don’t feel I have any “right” to do anything, but if I can do it and the band or owners allow it, great. Obviously, a LOT more people would see it on YT, which is the entire point.

You still didn’t address the Google Drive with Andrew’s name right on it. Do you think it’s OK to give all of KISS’ archives away without their permission? If it wasn’t him, then it was “Sam Loomis” and “he” also posts there. It may be the other friend if his who’s name I’ve heard but can’t recall. That would a pretty shitty friend though to implicate him.

Andrew contacted me early on and asked me to help him clean up some footage for that ‘90s era thing he was doing, that I was pretty sure KISS themselves told him not to post. I asked him if that was the case and his response was basically “yeah, but I’ll get around that” which as an artist/musician honestly rubbed me the wrong way. You can see that attitude in his own “proof” emails with CG.

Likewise, Necramonium was messaging me months ago about his Cobo/Alive! sync thing he was going to do. I told him it was a waste of time (as I found out fir myself earlier) and that it would immediately be taken down and his attitude was basically ‘I don’t care” and that he’s gonna do whatever he wants to do. See a pattern here? I did. Now, follow that with his recent personal attacks on me after I did nothing but help him and you’ll understand why I question their credibility and other claims. It’s also funny that Necra made fancy little trailer for a documentary he was gonna make “exposing Sam Loomis” and then it disappeared from the face of the earth. I’ll wildly speculate that once he “exposed” who it was to himself it wasn’t who he thought, but someone he might need something from someday so the idea went right out the window.

You also didn’t respond to someone threatening to blow someone’s kid’s brains out, which in this day and age anyone would at least take seriously. You KNOW the FBI didn’t visit anyone over “KISS videos” yet you don’t correct anyone like you constantly did me every time I expressed an opinion on this topic. Andrew even posted the whole police report so this isn’t secret BFF of Curt knowledge.

You’re a smart guy, so I’m pretty sure you know that lawsuit against CG and others had absolutely nothing to do with any stolen hard drives. It was aldo dropped because it was ridiculous just like I predicted right before you banned me. NOT THAT THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME.

You just said above in your non-response “allegedly” stolen material. You won’t even say it is true, yet if anyone questions that claim they get banned. Now, if you were just an admin who stays out of the threads it would be one thing, but you don’t. You come in dropping 50 cent words with that pompous tone and play judge, jury and executioner. I’ve also seen you call me frankenidiiot or something along those lines. Well even an “idiot” like me can smell bullshit.

Most of the behavior you mentioned about CG above is directed at a couple people and I can’t say I blame him although fir the record I do NOT approve of lying about stuff just to get back at someone on a mission to smear you all over the internet. I have even told him that during our secret candle-lit dinners together.

Yiu also didn’t bother addressing the fact that anyone can read your boards even if they are banned (like me) so no one has to run to Curt and snitch. I let my work speak for itself and don’t need to snitch or try and take someone else’s stuff down, but not everyone handles things the same way as illustrated above (which is really at the heart of this whole matter).

You started this with me, Julian. I understand friend loyalties, but I never did anything to you and don’t appreciate it at all. I’m also not Necra who would cry to me about you and being banned and then crawl back to kiss your ass. Of course I liked sharing my stuff on the biggest KISS fan board, but I don’t need to be treated like that or kiss anyone’s ass.

Oops, now I think i'm team Wiseacre. No way Julian is coming back from this one.

[Wiseacre]

Oops, now I think i'm team Wiseacre.

I believe in me.


This is so stupid. Well, until you spend months working on something for free and someone goes on a campaign to get no one to listen to it while crying about being targeted and having their stuff removed.

I'd rather just ban him and be done with the whole conversation. Works for him.