VENOM INC: MANTAS On TONY DOLAN: “I Will Never Speak To Him Again”

[Zabooka]

Asked when he arrived at the decision to leave VENOM INC., Jeff said in part (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): "Well, I can tell you now that the last fucking conversation that I had with [Tony] Dolan [VENOM INC. bassist/vocalist] was March the 26th. That was nearly a month before I had the [second] heart attack. I did not receive one single phone call after that. I got the occasional text saying, 'How are you doing?' but he never called me. And you know what it is? I was in a bad way after that heart attack, after the second one. Mentally I was worse than the first one. I didn't come into [my] studio for months. When I came in, my guitars were, there was rust all over them. I had to repair everything.

"On that March the 26th conversation, we discussed me returning [to VENOM INC.] just for the festivals," he continued. "And I said, 'Look, I can do probably do two weeks or something like that,' but even then that was getting a stretch because [my wife], she had been misdiagnosed with cancer and that went on for fucking months. That destroyed us… Nobody knows what we had went through there. And then, obviously, I had the fucking second heart attack.

"On that March 26th conversation, we discussed me returning for a show on May the 18th, I think it was, in Belgium, which was gonna be a festival," Mantas explained. "I had done my last two shows and then bowed out of the second leg of the American tour. And I just wanted to get back to [my wife] because she just had the diagnosis. And as I said, 'There's no way I'm leaving her with a diagnosis like that. I don't know what the fuck's gonna happen.' Thankfully, that diagnosis has been overturned, but she's still going through a medical investigation because there's still something wrong that they can't find. Now she's got an emergency MRI scan coming up because we've just had another hospital appointment on Thursday where the gastroenterologist has turned around and said, 'We need an MRI.' And this will tell us definitively if it is a cancerous thing. We need to know, I don't think it is personally, but we need to know. So we're still not out of the woods.

"Me having the second heart attack, it affected her as well," Jeff said. "That was April 17th [of 2024]. That needed surgical intervention. I had two stents put in. Then I've got a two-to-three-week recovery after that. I was in pain all the time, I was, like, 'Fucking hell.' And it was just, like, 'When the fuck is this gonna end?' It just came out of the blue as well. I was in the garden — bang, it just fucking happened. And the next thing I knew, there was two ambulances at the door.

"[Dolan and I] had that conversation on March the 26th, and then there was nothing after that. I didn't get a phone call. And like I say, I was in a fucking bad way. And maybe, just maybe, all I wanted to do was pour my heart out to my best friend. And I never got that fucking opportunity, as far as I'm concerned.

"All this fucking proclaiming he's my best friend, he's my brother, the door's always open [for me to come back to VENOM INC.]. And then I see a private message between him and a person that I know as well, 'Oh, Mantas's just stabbed me in the back.'

"Can you help me understand that, how I stabbed you in the back? What? By having two heart attacks and fucking the plans up for touring? I'm so fucking sorry," Jeff continued.

"This really has fucking angered me — really fucking angered me. And if anybody thinks I'm gonna sit back now at my age and just take all that and watch what's going on — no. Open your mouth once more and the fucking world's coming down on your shoulders. I've just had enough. I've had enough."

Mantas went on to say that he made the decision to announce his departure from VENOM INC. after the band was booked to perform as the headliner of the Byker Grave festival on December 7, 2024 in Newcastle, United Kingdom.

"There was this gig that they did in Newcastle, in my hometown, where I formed the band," Jeff said. "I found out about that on a poster on Facebook. I wasn't even told. I wasn't even fucking told. So I let that go. I let it go. I got the message about the American tour. I looked at the dates and thought, 'You know for a fact there's no way I can do all those fucking dates.' I sent a message back, 'Can we talk about this?' That was October the 3rd [of 2024]. Never heard a fucking thing back — not once. And I said, 'Can we talk about this? Let me know when you're free.' Because he's always at work or he's always doing something. He doesn't answer the phone. So I was, like, 'Just let me know.' I didn't say this in the message, but if he had said, 'Right, I've got Tuesday, I've got 30 minutes' — perfect. That's all I need. That's all the time I need."

Mantas explained: "My idea was gonna be, 'Okay then. I'll fly to Newcastle. I can see my daughter, I can see my grandkids, I can see a few friends. I'll play the show, and on that show, at the end of it, I'll say, 'Thank you, Newcastle. This is where it started and for me, this is where it ends. I now hand the reins over. And fucking I can't do anymore, but thank you so much for 40-odd, incredible fucking years.' Next thing I knew, they're promoting the show. All right. Okay. So, I decided, 'That's it.' I make the statement. I leave [VENOM INC. in early December]. And then a week later, well, after that, there's all these fucking interviews [with Dolan that] just go straight up, like, damage limitation — that's what I call them; [they're] not fucking interviews. And then I put [my solo song] 'Losing My Faith', the first clip of the video up, that night when that video went off, he unfriended and blocked me on fucking everything — and [my wife], and her daughter. And that is the truth. Now please help me understand why. Let me know why.

"As long as I have breath left in me on this planet, I will never speak to him again. Never. Because as much as I loved that guy, and I did, I loved that guy like a fucking brother, I really loved that guy. And then this — okay, you think you're VENOM? Go out there and fucking do it. And I said in a statement the other night, go and play at every arena that you want to, or you can go play every fucking toilet that you want to. I don't care. Leave me out of it. I'm done. I'm fucking done with it."



LINK: https://blabbermouth.net/news/jeff-mant ... -him-again

[Zabooka]

Yeah that’s long.

The short form is that Mantas and his wife have had some health issues recently. Mantas was unable to do all the dates. At some point he no longer heard from Dolan.

Mantas said he saw a private message where Dolan told someone that Mantas had stabbed him in the back.

Mantas released a song recently and he said Dolan unfriended him after.

[jens]

Didn't even know Mantas was out! Kinda stupid it's only Tony left.

Maybe he's the problem? He's always slagging of Cronos and Abaddon too...

[inextrem]

I love Venom., but oh the retardation involved!

[Psychobolia.com]

They should change the name to Venom Not, the Demolition Man albums weren't really Venom!

[inextrem]

They should change the name to Venom Not, the Demolition Man albums weren't really Venom!

"Prime Evil" is as good as the first two.

[EuroJR]

They should change the name to Venom Not, the Demolition Man albums weren't really Venom!

"Prime Evil" is as good as the first two.

IMO they peaked with At War With Satan

[Psychobolia.com]

They should change the name to Venom Not, the Demolition Man albums weren't really Venom!

"Prime Evil" is as good as the first two.

IMO they peaked with At War With Satan

Agreed.

I do enjoy Black Metal and Possessed a lot, and the last album with Mantas was great (Resurrection), basically Venom with killer production (minus Abbadon).

[skinni]

"Prime Evil" is as good as the first two.

IMO they peaked with At War With Satan

Agreed.

I do enjoy Black Metal and Possessed a lot, and the last album with Mantas was great (Resurrection), basically Venom with killer production (minus Abbadon).

I agree as well that At War With Satan represents Venom's peak. Possessed was also excellent, as was their live album, Eine kleine Nachtmusik. However, I haven't enjoyed their subsequent work.

[HueyRamone]

"Prime Evil" is as good as the first two.

IMO they peaked with At War With Satan

Agreed.

I do enjoy Black Metal and Possessed a lot, and the last album with Mantas was great (Resurrection), basically Venom with killer production (minus Abbadon).

Venom with good production? I may have to check this out, as I cant imagine what well produced Venom would sound like.


Weird to see all the At War With Satan lovers here. I always thought people thought Black metal was the high water mark, and they jumped the shark a bit with AWWS.

[Wiseacre]

IMO they peaked with At War With Satan

Agreed.

I do enjoy Black Metal and Possessed a lot, and the last album with Mantas was great (Resurrection), basically Venom with killer production (minus Abbadon).

Weird to see all the At War With Satan lovers here. I always thought people thought Black metal was the high water mark, and they jumped the shark a bit with AWWS.

This exactly. I recall people thinking At War was disappointing and the beginning of the slide (and that Possessed basically sucked). Welcome to Hell and Black Metal is my Venom.

[alleyrulez]

IMO they peaked with At War With Satan

Agreed.

I do enjoy Black Metal and Possessed a lot, and the last album with Mantas was great (Resurrection), basically Venom with killer production (minus Abbadon).

Venom with good production? I may have to check this out, as I cant imagine what well produced Venom would sound like.


Weird to see all the At War With Satan lovers here. I always thought people thought Black metal was the high water mark, and they jumped the shark a bit with AWWS.

agreed on "Resurrection." you can tell they actually spent some $, time and effort on this one.

great riffs, and pretty melodic for a Venom album.

top notch.

[HueyRamone]

Agreed.

I do enjoy Black Metal and Possessed a lot, and the last album with Mantas was great (Resurrection), basically Venom with killer production (minus Abbadon).

Venom with good production? I may have to check this out, as I cant imagine what well produced Venom would sound like.


Weird to see all the At War With Satan lovers here. I always thought people thought Black metal was the high water mark, and they jumped the shark a bit with AWWS.

agreed on "Resurrection." you can tell they actually spent some $, time and effort on this one.

great riffs, and pretty melodic for a Venom album.

top notch.

Im digging this album! Thanks to you and Psycho for the reccomendation

[LurkingAtWork]

Listened to Resurrection last night as well, good stuff