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BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:22 pm He’s in his 80s. Pick something you can actually sing! This is self-delusion at Paul Stanley levels. There is no reason on earth he had to pick that song to perform. He’s Paul fucking McCartney. He’s got a hundred well known songs that he could have picked from.

https://youtu.be/iu4aedISw6g?si=lsSklDpgz-UH9ADm

I heard the first “sleep pretty darling..” and clicked it off.
Don’t want to hear the golden slumbers part.

You’re right, that’s one of the worst ones to pick.
Why not go for ‘oh darling,’ too

Why didn’t Skidrow show up with the 23rd singer- missed opportunity

Not bad firvhis age ata ll.

Still the king.

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2025 7:22 pm He’s in his 80s. Pick something you can actually sing! This is self-delusion at Paul Stanley levels. There is no reason on earth he had to pick that song to perform. He’s Paul fucking McCartney. He’s got a hundred well known songs that he could have picked from.

https://youtu.be/iu4aedISw6g?si=lsSklDpgz-UH9ADm

I'm guessing he did that song because of the skit he did with Chris Farley on SNL back in the day where they mention that song. "Remember ..when you were in The Beatles..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHPQFPdj8ko

Good excuse to remind everyone how amazing Brad Delp was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OiC7LaU8Cg

aznsquirt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:01 am Good excuse to remind everyone how amazing Brad Delp was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OiC7LaU8Cg

He was SUCH a great singer. What a gift he had. Sad to think he’s gone mainly because he felt so embarrassed after getting busted peeping on his fiancé’s sister.

My first thought was Ooof. Second thought was PM is self-aware. Yes, he could have chosen a song his voice can handle, but he chose that one. He probably knows how he sounds but gives no facks. On the other hand, Paul Stanley is delusional.

Paul chose the song because of the message, which is the same reason Ringo always does this:

its Paul McCartney, a freakin Beatle,. we are lucky to still have hm around at 82 years old and still performing. Is he 20? nope, but he is out there without a net. not tracks or autotune. we win because he wins. A living Legend.

keyofgee wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:13 am its Paul McCartney, a freakin Beatle,. we are lucky to still have hm around at 82 years old and still performing. Is he 20? nope, but he is out there without a net. not tracks or autotune. we win because he wins. A living Legend.

Agreed. He doesn't need to prove anything. He already did.

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:33 am Well, he proved he can’t sing anymore, that’s for sure.

It’s funny how the original question is answered over and over by the apologists in this thread. “but, but, but…he’s MACA!” Yes, he is and that’s the point of the thread. Why suck when you don’t have to?

Probably the same people who shit all over Ace for playing and singing like shit in his ‘70s.

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:49 am

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:33 am Well, he proved he can’t sing anymore, that’s for sure.

It’s funny how the original question is answered over and over by the apologists in this thread. “but, but, but…he’s MACA!” Yes, he is and that’s the point of the thread. Why suck when you don’t have to?

Probably the same people who shit all over Ace for playing and singing like shit in his ‘70s.

He should have covered The Elder in its entirety.

people in this post saying it’s Jesus incarnate are no different than kisstards making excuses for Paul lip syncing.

Yes, he’s Paul McCartney. He could have keyed this song down and came up with a different arrangement.

Sounding bad is sounding bad, doesn’t matter who you are

At least he's not Ozzy...

His performance here did not live up to his legendary reputation.

Perhaps retirement is in order.

I thought Paul Simon was way worse . McCartney was passable.. Cher and Bonnie Raitt were the gold standard of how to sing in your golden years.

Hatchets Molly wrote: ↑Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:13 am My first thought was Ooof. Second thought was PM is self-aware. Yes, he could have chosen a song his voice can handle, but he chose that one. He probably knows how he sounds but gives no facks. On the other hand, Paul Stanley is delusional.

Paul isn't delusional. He used the Paul Stanley Vocal Smoothing Pedal (TM) on the last KISS tour.

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:11 am Yeah and still screamed like he was 35 with the intros etc and said he was never sounding better and going out on top. Delusional.

Paul vocally didn't go out on top, but KISS did. That was their longest tour (250 shows; no previous tour broke the 200 mark) and it was their highest grossing tour.

The band was tight. Gene, Eric, and Tommy sang well. Good stage production (not my favorite; that would be "Monster"). Most pyro I've seen at any show. Packed TD Garden in Boston. Crowd was into the show as was the band. I also saw them two years later at the amphitheater in Mansfield. Smaller production due to the smaller amphitheater stage. Good show, but not as good as the show in Boston.

risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:19 am

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:11 am Yeah and still screamed like he was 35 with the intros etc and said he was never sounding better and going out on top. Delusional.

Paul vocally didn't go out on top, but KISS did. That was their longest tour (250 shows; no previous tour broke the 200 mark) and it was their highest grossing tour.

The band was tight. Gene, Eric, and Tommy sang well. Good stage production (not my favorite; that would be "Monster"). Most pyro I've seen at any show. Packed TD Garden in Boston. Crowd was into the show as was the band. I also saw them two years later at the amphitheater in Mansfield. Smaller production due to the smaller amphitheater stage. Good show, but not as good as the show in Boston.

My God. I’m a lifelong fan since the ‘70s and have devoted innumerable hours in recent years to remixing and cleaning up old KISS shit and even I can admit the last tour was a slow-motion, karaoke-clean embarrassment of what was once “KISS”. Out on TOP????? That COULD have happened in ‘96-‘97, but what they ended up as was HORRIBLE. They literally stayed around long enough to prove their earliest critics 100% correct by going out all style and zero substance. Bombs and smoke, old guys looking terrible and bored with canned vocals that still sucked. It couldn’t have possibly been any worse. And I’ll say exactly the same thing about my boyhood hero Ace. No idea what the fuck he is even thinking at this point.

EOTR was pure shit. I saw it twice. Once for free and once towards the very end just in case they had any final surprises. Of course they didn’t and neither show was worth the price of gasoline to get there.

I know you are a confirmed troll, but this is beyond dumb.

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:29 am

risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:19 am

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:11 am Yeah and still screamed like he was 35 with the intros etc and said he was never sounding better and going out on top. Delusional.

Paul vocally didn't go out on top, but KISS did. That was their longest tour (250 shows; no previous tour broke the 200 mark) and it was their highest grossing tour.

The band was tight. Gene, Eric, and Tommy sang well. Good stage production (not my favorite; that would be "Monster"). Most pyro I've seen at any show. Packed TD Garden in Boston. Crowd was into the show as was the band. I also saw them two years later at the amphitheater in Mansfield. Smaller production due to the smaller amphitheater stage. Good show, but not as good as the show in Boston.

My God. I’m a lifelong fan since the ‘70s and have devoted innumerable hours in recent years to remixing and cleaning up old KISS shit and even I can admit the last tour was a slow-motion, karaoke-clean embarrassment of what was once “KISS”. Out on TOP????? That COULD have happened in ‘96-‘97, but what they ended up as was HORRIBLE. They literally stayed around long enough to prove their earliest critics 100% correct by going out all style and zero substance. Bombs and smoke, old guys looking terrible and bored with canned vocals that still sucked. It couldn’t have possibly been any worse. And I’ll say exactly the same thing about my boyhood hero Ace. No idea what the fuck he is even thinking at this point.

EOTR was pure shit. I saw it twice. Once for free and once towards the very end just in case they had any final surprises. Of course they didn’t and neither show was worth the price of gasoline to get there.

I know you are a confirmed troll, but this is beyond dumb.

KISS sucked circa '96/'97 due to two shitty alcoholic/drug addicts who shouldn't have been on a KISS stage ever again.

I'll take Paul on tape with a good band over Paul singing well with a shitty drummer and lead guitarist.

You drink blue and green Kool-Aid. I don't.

You "remix and clean up old KISS shit". LOL. I have better things to do with my time.

EOTR was "pure shit", but you still went. That's being a sheep. Gene and Paul thank you for your support.

risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:42 am

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:29 am

risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:19 am

Paul vocally didn't go out on top, but KISS did. That was their longest tour (250 shows; no previous tour broke the 200 mark) and it was their highest grossing tour.

The band was tight. Gene, Eric, and Tommy sang well. Good stage production (not my favorite; that would be "Monster"). Most pyro I've seen at any show. Packed TD Garden in Boston. Crowd was into the show as was the band. I also saw them two years later at the amphitheater in Mansfield. Smaller production due to the smaller amphitheater stage. Good show, but not as good as the show in Boston.

My God. I’m a lifelong fan since the ‘70s and have devoted innumerable hours in recent years to remixing and cleaning up old KISS shit and even I can admit the last tour was a slow-motion, karaoke-clean embarrassment of what was once “KISS”. Out on TOP????? That COULD have happened in ‘96-‘97, but what they ended up as was HORRIBLE. They literally stayed around long enough to prove their earliest critics 100% correct by going out all style and zero substance. Bombs and smoke, old guys looking terrible and bored with canned vocals that still sucked. It couldn’t have possibly been any worse. And I’ll say exactly the same thing about my boyhood hero Ace. No idea what the fuck he is even thinking at this point.

EOTR was pure shit. I saw it twice. Once for free and once towards the very end just in case they had any final surprises. Of course they didn’t and neither show was worth the price of gasoline to get there.

I know you are a confirmed troll, but this is beyond dumb.

KISS sucked circa '96/'97 due to two shitty alcoholic/drug addicts who shouldn't have been on a KISS stage ever again.

I'll take Paul on tape with a good band over Paul singing well with a shitty drummer and lead guitarist.

You drink blue and green Kool-Aid. I don't.

You "remix and clean up old KISS shit". LOL. I have better things to do with my time.

EOTR was "pure shit", but you still went. That's being a sheep. Gene and Paul thank you for your support.

purple & red jizz is much more potent

risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:42 am

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:29 am

risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:19 am

Paul vocally didn't go out on top, but KISS did. That was their longest tour (250 shows; no previous tour broke the 200 mark) and it was their highest grossing tour.

The band was tight. Gene, Eric, and Tommy sang well. Good stage production (not my favorite; that would be "Monster"). Most pyro I've seen at any show. Packed TD Garden in Boston. Crowd was into the show as was the band. I also saw them two years later at the amphitheater in Mansfield. Smaller production due to the smaller amphitheater stage. Good show, but not as good as the show in Boston.

My God. I’m a lifelong fan since the ‘70s and have devoted innumerable hours in recent years to remixing and cleaning up old KISS shit and even I can admit the last tour was a slow-motion, karaoke-clean embarrassment of what was once “KISS”. Out on TOP????? That COULD have happened in ‘96-‘97, but what they ended up as was HORRIBLE. They literally stayed around long enough to prove their earliest critics 100% correct by going out all style and zero substance. Bombs and smoke, old guys looking terrible and bored with canned vocals that still sucked. It couldn’t have possibly been any worse. And I’ll say exactly the same thing about my boyhood hero Ace. No idea what the fuck he is even thinking at this point.

EOTR was pure shit. I saw it twice. Once for free and once towards the very end just in case they had any final surprises. Of course they didn’t and neither show was worth the price of gasoline to get there.

I know you are a confirmed troll, but this is beyond dumb.

KISS sucked circa '96/'97 due to two shitty alcoholic/drug addicts who shouldn't have been on a KISS stage ever again.

I'll take Paul on tape with a good band over Paul singing well with a shitty drummer and lead guitarist.

You drink blue and green Kool-Aid. I don't.

You "remix and clean up old KISS shit". LOL. I have better things to do with my time.

EOTR was "pure shit", but you still went. That's being a sheep. Gene and Paul thank you for your support.

Textbook KISSTARDERY.

Reunion was magic for actual fans as literally everyone knows. Fuck Karaoke Fake KI$$. Without Ace and Peter (or Krazy Vinnie) there isn’t an ounce of actual rock n roll in that band. Without them it is literally Juan Epstein and Arnold Horshack in clown makeup with loud guitars. Zero swag, zero cool. Fact.

“I have better things to do with my time.”

I seriously doubt that. I’m not a n00b here.

I watched a couple of minutes of this as well and it wasn’t very good. While Paul is in his early 80s, he looks outstanding. Vocally, it was time to get off the road right around the time the pandemic started. His voice was pretty much finished by then.

DangerZone wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:38 am

risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:42 am

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:29 am

My God. I’m a lifelong fan since the ‘70s and have devoted innumerable hours in recent years to remixing and cleaning up old KISS shit and even I can admit the last tour was a slow-motion, karaoke-clean embarrassment of what was once “KISS”. Out on TOP????? That COULD have happened in ‘96-‘97, but what they ended up as was HORRIBLE. They literally stayed around long enough to prove their earliest critics 100% correct by going out all style and zero substance. Bombs and smoke, old guys looking terrible and bored with canned vocals that still sucked. It couldn’t have possibly been any worse. And I’ll say exactly the same thing about my boyhood hero Ace. No idea what the fuck he is even thinking at this point.

EOTR was pure shit. I saw it twice. Once for free and once towards the very end just in case they had any final surprises. Of course they didn’t and neither show was worth the price of gasoline to get there.

I know you are a confirmed troll, but this is beyond dumb.

KISS sucked circa '96/'97 due to two shitty alcoholic/drug addicts who shouldn't have been on a KISS stage ever again.

I'll take Paul on tape with a good band over Paul singing well with a shitty drummer and lead guitarist.

You drink blue and green Kool-Aid. I don't.

You "remix and clean up old KISS shit". LOL. I have better things to do with my time.

EOTR was "pure shit", but you still went. That's being a sheep. Gene and Paul thank you for your support.

purple & red jizz is much more potent

From your experience, I'll take your word on that.

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:28 pm

risingfarce wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:42 am

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:29 am

My God. I’m a lifelong fan since the ‘70s and have devoted innumerable hours in recent years to remixing and cleaning up old KISS shit and even I can admit the last tour was a slow-motion, karaoke-clean embarrassment of what was once “KISS”. Out on TOP????? That COULD have happened in ‘96-‘97, but what they ended up as was HORRIBLE. They literally stayed around long enough to prove their earliest critics 100% correct by going out all style and zero substance. Bombs and smoke, old guys looking terrible and bored with canned vocals that still sucked. It couldn’t have possibly been any worse. And I’ll say exactly the same thing about my boyhood hero Ace. No idea what the fuck he is even thinking at this point.

EOTR was pure shit. I saw it twice. Once for free and once towards the very end just in case they had any final surprises. Of course they didn’t and neither show was worth the price of gasoline to get there.

I know you are a confirmed troll, but this is beyond dumb.

KISS sucked circa '96/'97 due to two shitty alcoholic/drug addicts who shouldn't have been on a KISS stage ever again.

I'll take Paul on tape with a good band over Paul singing well with a shitty drummer and lead guitarist.

You drink blue and green Kool-Aid. I don't.

You "remix and clean up old KISS shit". LOL. I have better things to do with my time.

EOTR was "pure shit", but you still went. That's being a sheep. Gene and Paul thank you for your support.

Textbook KISSTARDERY.

Reunion was magic for actual fans as literally everyone knows. Fuck Karaoke Fake KI$$. Without Ace and Peter (or Krazy Vinnie) there isn’t an ounce of actual rock n roll in that band. Without them it is literally Juan Epstein and Arnold Horshack in clown makeup with loud guitars. Zero swag, zero cool. Fact.

“I have better things to do with my time.”

I seriously doubt that. I’m not a n00b here.

"Actual fans"? You mean the posers who came out to see the reunion tour, checked it off their list, and never came back. The "Psycho Circus" tour didn't even play half of the U.S. The second leg was canceled after lower turn out and a cd that didn't even sell 500,000 copies in the U.S.

There was no magic musically circa 1996 to 2000. Peter and Ace sucked. Peter was pedestrian. He couldn't even play the triplets in "Deuce". No power in his playing at all. Ace? Sloppy and mistakes left and right. Gene was fine. Paul was great.

Paul and Gene fired two top level musicians and replaced them with two alcoholic, drug addicted has-beens, whose musical skills evaporated over 10 years prior. All for money. Such a disappointing time to be a KISS fan, where music was the reason for liking the band.

Paul and Gene wrote 90% of the material. Ace and Peter, both times, always sat in the back seat, where they belonged. I do love the fact that circa 1996 to 2000, Ace and Peter worked for Paul and Gene. Two hacks, who threw it all away twice, got what they deserved.

And Gene and Paul still thank you for your EOTR money. You couldn't help yourself. You couldn't walk away. I did, circa "Psycho Circus" and KISS/Aeroshite tours.

"n00b"? What are you, 12?

Get back to "remixing". I won't be listening.

^^^^^^^^^So much dumb in one post ^^^^^^^^^

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:23 pm ^^^^^^^^^So much dumb in one post ^^^^^^^^^

Your ass is still stinging from giving Paul and Gene EOTR money.

^^^^^ ^^^^^^

Of course this turns into a Kiss thread.

I see quite a wide gulf between Paul going up there at 83 and loud and proud sounding like he’s 83 compared to Paul going up there at 60 sound sounding loud and ashamed that he sounds horrific for 60, or going up there at 70-75 and straight up faking it.

98% of the SNL audience is happy an 83 year old legend is still up there having fun. Pretty sure that’s the point.