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Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:19 am
by Tommy2Tone84
the John Lennon of the genre around this clown car forum? Some of you really need to quit huffing the Aqua Net.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:35 am
by Brainy Lane
From Guitar World magazine…” But Warrant’s few shortcomings should never be allowed to eclipse the simple truth that vocalist/band leader Jani Lane was one of the most accomplished song writers of the pop metal genre”

http://www.guitarworld.com/top_20_hair_ ... page=0%2C2

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 5:09 am
by Spongie
I think you meant to ask if John Lennon is still considered the Jani Lane of arguably the world’s worst band… certainly the most indisputably overrated.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 6:25 am
by VincentVanWinger
Funny thing about Warrant. I find their music has held up better than Poisons. Heck Warrants stuff has held up better than a lot of bands music.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:36 am
by Rocker4Real
I don't remember anyone here comparing him to Lennon. Jani wrote 5 songs that were hits over a 3 year period. John wrote a few more than that.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:41 am
by DonJuanDeMarco
I thought Donnie Vie was the hard rock John Lennon!

Jani wrote some good lyrics and melodies, the ballads in particular that hold up very well. They are just good examples of very well written songs like Journey or Richard Marx or whatever but in a more hard rock context.

Warrant only had 2 hit albums though. Dog Eat Dog was DOA and it was all downhill from there. Although some, including me, consider that album to be his masterpiece.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:25 am
by greengoblinrulz
Definitely a vast overstatement to make a point but Jani was a fantastic songwriter, esp when you consider that nobody in the band actually helped him write a note.
Several hits, great lyrics/melodies
One of my absolute fav songwriters

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:37 am
by alleyrulez
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:19 am the John Lennon of the genre around this clown car forum? Some of you really need to quit huffing the Aqua Net.
you really hate John Kennedy Oswald, don't ya? :lol:

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:45 am
by DangerZone
I don’t think whoever said that meant jani is as good as Lennon.
Jani just wrote more properly crafted songs, like Lennon.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:45 pm
by Tommy2Tone84
Brainy Lane wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:35 am From Guitar World magazine…” But Warrant’s few shortcomings should never be allowed to eclipse the simple truth that vocalist/band leader Jani Lane was one of the most accomplished song writers of the pop metal genre”

http://www.guitarworld.com/top_20_hair_ ... page=0%2C2

Was he? I like the band but they were third tier at best imo, and not nearly as good as many of the other third and fourth tier bands. I saw them a couple different times with the first being the Firehouse and Trixter tour. I thought Warrant was the weakest of the three. Firehouse gets alot of sh*t on here a lot but they were aces high above and beyond Warrant, and their debut has aged really well. I’ll put it up against DRFSR any day. Trixter was the big surprise for me. I was a fan but they were much younger than both of the other bands. They were fun, energetic and very solid musically. Their first record was ripping. Warrant’s constant sexual cliches got tired fast.

I remember thinking Jani thought he was a little better than the rest of his band even back then. He also wasn’t the greatest live singer or frontman.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:49 pm
by Tommy2Tone84
alleyrulez wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:37 am
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 1:19 am the John Lennon of the genre around this clown car forum? Some of you really need to quit huffing the Aqua Net.
you really hate John Kennedy Oswald, don't ya? :lol:

Hate is a strong word. I have a certain amount of empathy for him. His dad sounds like a d*ck and really messed him up. I just find him a tad overrated.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:53 pm
by War_in_D
Since nothing better has presented itself in over 30 years, sure, why not...

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:04 pm
by DangerZone
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:45 pm
Brainy Lane wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:35 am From Guitar World magazine…” But Warrant’s few shortcomings should never be allowed to eclipse the simple truth that vocalist/band leader Jani Lane was one of the most accomplished song writers of the pop metal genre”

http://www.guitarworld.com/top_20_hair_ ... page=0%2C2

Was he? I like the band but they were third tier at best imo, and not nearly as good as many of the other third and fourth tier bands. I saw them a couple different times with the first being the Firehouse and Trixter tour. I thought Warrant was the weakest of the three. Firehouse gets alot of sh*t on here a lot but they were aces high above and beyond Warrant, and their debut has aged really well. I’ll put it up against DRFSR any day. Trixter was the big surprise for me. I was a fan but they were much younger than both of the other bands. They were fun, energetic and very solid musically. Their first record was ripping. Warrant’s constant sexual cliches got tired fast.

I remember thinking Jani thought he was a little better than the rest of his band even back then. He also wasn’t the greatest live singer or frontman.
another classic from Tommy2Obtuse

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 7:53 am
by Mister Freeze
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:45 pm Firehouse gets alot of sh*t on here a lot but they were aces high above and beyond Warrant

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Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:05 am
by MattleyCrue
Belly to Belly is a great record

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:00 am
by dmbrocker
Tommy2Tone84 wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:45 pm
Brainy Lane wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:35 am From Guitar World magazine…” But Warrant’s few shortcomings should never be allowed to eclipse the simple truth that vocalist/band leader Jani Lane was one of the most accomplished song writers of the pop metal genre”

http://www.guitarworld.com/top_20_hair_ ... page=0%2C2

Was he? I like the band but they were third tier at best imo, and not nearly as good as many of the other third and fourth tier bands. I saw them a couple different times with the first being the Firehouse and Trixter tour. I thought Warrant was the weakest of the three. Firehouse gets alot of sh*t on here a lot but they were aces high above and beyond Warrant, and their debut has aged really well. I’ll put it up against DRFSR any day. Trixter was the big surprise for me. I was a fan but they were much younger than both of the other bands. They were fun, energetic and very solid musically. Their first record was ripping. Warrant’s constant sexual cliches got tired fast.

I remember thinking Jani thought he was a little better than the rest of his band even back then. He also wasn’t the greatest live singer or frontman.
That whole era was full of great C-D level hair bands, but even then as much as I like Firehouse I'd still rank Jani and Warrant well above them.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:38 am
by Wiseacre
I was never a huge fan of the genre and I don't know who wrote what, but I personally think Skid Row and Bon Jovi had much better song-writing than Warrant ever did. others too. Maybe it was just the singles, but Warrant seemed cheesy as hell to me. Even back in the '80s someone once told me (who wasn't a hair metal guy) he was some sort of a prodigy, so what do I know?

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:31 pm
by Chip Z'Hoy
alleyrulez wrote: Mon Mar 03, 2025 10:37 amyou really hate John Kennedy Oswald, don't ya? :lol:
It's crazy to me that he was given a hard af name like JOHN KENNEDY OSWALD and insisted on being called Jani Lane.

Jani Lane wrote "Big Talk." JOHN KENNEDY OSWALD wrote "Machine Gun."

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:42 pm
by Bono Nettencourt
Boy, his parents hated him even before he was born!

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:45 pm
by Wiseacre
John Kennedy Oswald should have started a band like Marilyn Manson with John Lennon Chapman, Bobby Sirhan, Martin Luther Ray Jr and Abraham Wilkes Booth

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:02 pm
by Hellsinkey
Jani Lane is a weird name, because it sounds Finnish. If it was spelled Jani Laine, there would be a few male namesakes here. It's that common. As for Lane, I think he said it in an interview that Jani was originally meant to be spelled Johnny, not Janey. But he got tired of correcting people.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:34 am
by tym
I always thought Jani was one of the best song writers of the metal or pop era of that time. It sucks his demons and the Record company fucking him over got the best of him.

I always thought record companies got there's in the end. Now bands and artists really dont need them, tick tock and youtube will give them the exposure they need. They can record there music on a laptop.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:48 pm
by DangerZone

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:01 pm
by MetalSludgeCEO
Hellsinkey wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:02 pm Jani Lane is a weird name, because it sounds Finnish. If it was spelled Jani Laine, there would be a few male namesakes here. It's that common. As for Lane, I think he said it in an interview that Jani was originally meant to be spelled Johnny, not Janey. But he got tired of correcting people.
""""""""""""" I think he said it in an interview that Jani was originally meant to be spelled Johnny, not Janey. But he got tired of correcting people."""""""""""""

You have this a little backwards...

His name was John, and he was going by Johnny... but wanted to spell it different, then the typical spelling.

So he spelled it Jani, as in 'John-Knee', but people were mispronouncing it, calling him "Jay-Knee", not "John-Knee", and over time, it stuck and he was Jay-Knee not John-Knee.

$tEvil

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:21 pm
by MattleyCrue
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:01 pm
Hellsinkey wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:02 pm Jani Lane is a weird name, because it sounds Finnish. If it was spelled Jani Laine, there would be a few male namesakes here. It's that common. As for Lane, I think he said it in an interview that Jani was originally meant to be spelled Johnny, not Janey. But he got tired of correcting people.
""""""""""""" I think he said it in an interview that Jani was originally meant to be spelled Johnny, not Janey. But he got tired of correcting people."""""""""""""

You have this a little backwards...

His name was John, and he was going by Johnny... but wanted to spell it different, then the typical spelling.

So he spelled it Jani, as in 'John-Knee', but people were mispronouncing it, calling him "Jay-Knee", not "John-Knee", and over time, it stuck and he was Jay-Knee not John-Knee.

$tEvil
Wow very cool. I didn’t know that. Jani is a cool way of spelling John-Knee

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:28 pm
by Nate S Axel
MattleyCrue wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:21 pm
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:01 pm
Hellsinkey wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:02 pm Jani Lane is a weird name, because it sounds Finnish. If it was spelled Jani Laine, there would be a few male namesakes here. It's that common. As for Lane, I think he said it in an interview that Jani was originally meant to be spelled Johnny, not Janey. But he got tired of correcting people.
""""""""""""" I think he said it in an interview that Jani was originally meant to be spelled Johnny, not Janey. But he got tired of correcting people."""""""""""""

You have this a little backwards...

His name was John, and he was going by Johnny... but wanted to spell it different, then the typical spelling.

So he spelled it Jani, as in 'John-Knee', but people were mispronouncing it, calling him "Jay-Knee", not "John-Knee", and over time, it stuck and he was Jay-Knee not John-Knee.

$tEvil
Wow very cool. I didn’t know that. Jani is a cool way of spelling John-Knee
He should have went with Zhani or Zhan E. Z's are more hair metal.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:41 pm
by War_in_D
He was our Taylor Swift.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:35 pm
by Metal Sludge
This board, and the dudes on it, fascination with Jani Lane has always baffled me. And it's only the dudes! Girls never liked him.
I will admit that I never listened to whatever solo stuff he did.
Or, any Warrant album after the first one.
You know why? Because I heard Cherry Pie and Down Boys. Why would I listen to anything else from this band? Those songs were terrible. The videos were terrible. They sucked!!!!
They opened for Queensryche on the Mindcrime tour in San Diego, 1990-ish?(who put this tour together???) They got booed off the stage. Not by me, I would never boo anyone. But the rest of the place felt differently.

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:41 pm
by MattleyCrue
Metal Sludge wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:35 pm This board, and the dudes on it, fascination with Jani Lane has always baffled me. And it's only the dudes! Girls never liked him.
I will admit that I never listened to whatever solo stuff he did.
Or, any Warrant album after the first one.
You know why? Because I heard Cherry Pie and Down Boys. Why would I listen to anything else from this band? Those songs were terrible. The videos were terrible. They sucked!!!!
They opened for Queensryche on the Mindcrime tour in San Diego, 1990-ish?(who put this tour together???) They got booed off the stage. Not by me, I would never boo anyone. But the rest of the place felt differently.
I could name you at least 25 great warrant songs

Re: Is Jani Lane Still Considered

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:49 pm
by DangerZone
MattleyCrue wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:41 pm
Metal Sludge wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:35 pm This board, and the dudes on it, fascination with Jani Lane has always baffled me. And it's only the dudes! Girls never liked him.
I will admit that I never listened to whatever solo stuff he did.
Or, any Warrant album after the first one.
You know why? Because I heard Cherry Pie and Down Boys. Why would I listen to anything else from this band? Those songs were terrible. The videos were terrible. They sucked!!!!
They opened for Queensryche on the Mindcrime tour in San Diego, 1990-ish?(who put this tour together???) They got booed off the stage. Not by me, I would never boo anyone. But the rest of the place felt differently.
I could name you at least 25 great warrant songs


Yeah, that post is nonsense