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Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:00 am**

This song came on a Spotify playlist. I almost forgot Steelheart had more than one album!

Who's idea was this? For a band that was best known for the big power ballad love song, I'll Never Let You Go. To follow it up with "Sticky Side Up", a total "hair band" party, fun, sex song. (I realize this is from their 2nd album so maybe not technically a follow up, still.. I'm sure they lost a feel female fans with this one).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reLEmg0_3Zo

Any other examples of hit singles and bad choice for follow up?

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:08 am**

I would vote that maybe best follow up single. I was so stoked happy pure excitement when that was played as new single on the radio.. I would give that 9/10..I would give Trixter ..Road of Thousand Dreams 10! Same as Fasterpussy Cat Nonstop To Nowwhere 10+ out of 10

I was disappointed with Warrant ..Machine Gun. They came out wanting to be Skidrow ..Slave To The Grind

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:24 am**

LAglamrocker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:08 amThey came out wanting to be Skidrow ..Slave To The Grind

This was a whole thread recently but "Slave" would qualify here.

"Monkey Business" was a hit, album debuted at #1 on Billboard, they had 3 INCREDIBLE power ballads to follow it up with, and then went with Pantera Lite. (Amazing song, but come on.)

Then they seemed to go into panic mode and put out all 3 ballads! Too late, boys.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:28 am**

Something like this happened with Anthrax and Sound of White Noise, right? I want to say they wanted to follow up "Only" with "Black Lodge" but Elektra dragged ass on "Lodge" and put out "Room for One More" in the interim and it destroyed the momentum. He talks about it in his book but that was like 10 years ago (Neil Young vox:) and I'm getting old.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:30 am**

LAglamrocker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:08 am I would vote that maybe best follow up single. I was so stoked happy pure excitement when that was played as new single on the radio.. I would give that 9/10..I would give Trixter ..Road of Thousand Dreams 10! Same as Fasterpussy Cat Nonstop To Nowwhere 10+ out of 10

I was disappointed with Warrant ..Machine Gun. They came out wanting to be Skidrow ..Slave To The Grind

I love Road of a Thousand Dream and Nonstop to Nowhere! It's a shame those songs did not become hits.

As for Steelheart, I think it's just funny the way it worked out for them having the power ballad being the first single. I think Mr. CEO knows a thing or 2 about that.

The formula was:
party song first
THEN
power ballad
THEN
serious rocker

Cherry Pie, I Saw Red, Uncle Tom's Cabin
Nothin but a Goodtime, Every Rose, Fallen Angel

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:48 am**

Next to Jon Bon Jovi ..Jersey era..Bach was best rockstar in Monkey Business video..Warrant wanted to be Slave To The Grind- Bitter Pill another somewhat let down
Follow up to Cherry Pie for 3rd cd single should have been something like “Whorehouse Hollywood” Cherry Pie-ish

I walk around thinking I’m Bach in Monkey Business video- going feel like that walking into Wrestlemania Sunday in Vegas

Keep The Faith… might win the award for letdown..don’t feel anything for that

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:54 am**

DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:30 am
LAglamrocker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:08 am I would vote that maybe best follow up single. I was so stoked happy pure excitement when that was played as new single on the radio.. I would give that 9/10..I would give Trixter ..Road of Thousand Dreams 10! Same as Fasterpussy Cat Nonstop To Nowwhere 10+ out of 10

I was disappointed with Warrant ..Machine Gun. They came out wanting to be Skidrow ..Slave To The Grind
I love Road of a Thousand Dream and Nonstop to Nowhere! It's a shame those songs did not become hits.

As for Steelheart, I think it's just funny the way it worked out for them having the power ballad being the first single. I think Mr. CEO knows a thing or 2 about that.

The formula was:
party song first
THEN
power ballad
THEN
serious rocker

Cherry Pie, I Saw Red, Uncle Tom's Cabin
Nothin but a Goodtime, Every Rose, Fallen Angel

"Fallen Angel" actually came out before "Every Rose...", so it was a variation of the formula.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:56 am**

DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:30 am
The formula was:
party song first
THEN
power ballad
THEN
serious rocker

Cherry Pie, I Saw Red, Uncle Tom's Cabin
Nothin but a Goodtime, Every Rose, Fallen Angel

Smokin in the Boys Room, Home Sweet Home, ah fuck there's nothing else on this album

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:18 am**

Motley MFer of the Year. 1st single was Ok, and not that it would have saved the album, but Down at the Whisky would have been a way better choice.

They would also be a contender for worst 3rd single with White Trash Circus.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:23 am**

LA Guns “Lucky MF” should be on here.

MF of the Year was my second.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:52 am**

Steelheart's follow up was "She's Gone", which was another ballad.

I think the first single from the second album was "Mama Don't You Cry".

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:11 am**

HoldenSSV wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:52 am Steelheart's follow up was "She's Gone", which was another ballad.

I think the first single from the second album was "Mama Don't You Cry".

OK, so I was wrong on all accounts! It wasn't the follow up single and it isn't even that bad of a song. I just hadn't heard it in 30 years and it popped up on a Spotify playlist along with much stronger songs by Motley, Poison, Ratt, Lynch Mob, etc.

Still, I thought the entire record was weak compared to the first one so I should've called it Worst Follow up Album!

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:36 am**

"MFOTY" is a great example here. I think "Down at the Whisky" would've been the much better choice.

Sludge Memory Lane: When the title track came out, the artwork for the single was the bodies from the LP cover arranged to spell "SOLA." Someone here photoshopped it to say "NONA" and instead of "Saints of Los Angeles" at the bottom, it said "I'm out of my head without you."

If the person that made that is still here, just know I'm chuckling about it 17 years later.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:45 am**

DLR - Stand Up after JLP

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:36 pm**

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:24 am
This was a whole thread recently but "Slave" would qualify here.

"Monkey Business" was a hit, album debuted at #1 on Billboard,

Was going to write Roth's Stand Up, but Slave may be an even worse choice. At least for a pretty boy hair band in 1991.

"School Daze" was also a crap choice for 2nd single off WASP's debut. Stupid filler tune and mostly forgotten. Not played live after the tour for the first album ended in 1985 and until the album's 40th anniversary last year.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:45 pm**

HueyRamone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:56 am
DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:30 am
The formula was:
party song first
THEN
power ballad
THEN
serious rocker

Cherry Pie, I Saw Red, Uncle Tom's Cabin
Nothin but a Goodtime, Every Rose, Fallen Angel
Smokin in the Boys Room, Home Sweet Home, ah fuck there's nothing else on this album

If they could get a hit with Smokin they could get a hit with anything in 85-86.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:57 pm**

IMO, Bon Jovi following up their biggest album (Slippery), and Aerosmith following up their biggest album (Pump), got a free pass on a couple turd songs in "Bad Medicine" (sounds like a filler track off any generic "D" lever hair band album), and "Living on the Edge" (tuneless/forgettable drivel).

And......not that it would have made a difference, but IMO Jetboys "Evil" is the weakest song on their 2nd album, never mind as a choice for the single/only video.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:04 pm**

Wild Obsession wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:57 pm And......not that it would have made a difference, but IMO Jetboys "Evil" is the weakest song on their 2nd album, never mind as a choice for the single/only video.

Blasphemy!

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:42 pm**

Love_Industry wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:45 pm
HueyRamone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:56 am
DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:30 am
The formula was:
party song first
THEN
power ballad
THEN
serious rocker

Cherry Pie, I Saw Red, Uncle Tom's Cabin
Nothin but a Goodtime, Every Rose, Fallen Angel
Smokin in the Boys Room, Home Sweet Home, ah fuck there's nothing else on this album
If they could get a hit with Smokin they could get a hit with anything in 85-86.

Not true - Smokin' was a #3 hit in its original incarnation. That album sucked and they knew it, that's why they tacked on a hit cover and made it the 1st single.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:59 pm**

Megadeth followed up Symphony of Destruction with a song called Foreclosure of a Dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgikGBh6pbI

A song about not being able to make your mortgage payments was definitely going to speak to the youth.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 5:49 pm**

Whatever song Velvet Revolver released after the lead off on Libertad. Band was cooked after that.

Posted: **Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:17 pm**

FreddyFender wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:59 pm Megadeth followed up Symphony of Destruction with a song called Foreclosure of a Dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgikGBh6pbI

A song about not being able to make your mortgage payments was definitely going to speak to the youth.

I like “Foreclosure of a Dream”, but on the other hand at least Dave redeemed himself by following that up with “Sweating Bullets”. That’s one of my top five Megadeth songs of all time.

Posted: **Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:19 am**

Too Young To Fall In Love

Posted: **Fri Mar 07, 2025 5:04 am**

DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:00 am This song came on a Spotify playlist. I almost forgot Steelheart had more than one album!

Who's idea was this? For a band that was best known for the big power ballad love song, I'll Never Let You Go. To follow it up with "Sticky Side Up", a total "hair band" party, fun, sex song. (I realize this is from their 2nd album so maybe not technically a follow up, still.. I'm sure they lost a feel female fans with this one).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reLEmg0_3Zo

Any other examples of hit singles and bad choice for follow up?

Follow up single? The follow up sing for Never let you go was She's gone.

The single from Steelheart - Steelheart Were:

Singles from Steelheart
"Can't Stop Me Lovin' You" Released: 1990
"I'll Never Let You Go" Released: 1990
"She's Gone" Released: 1991
"Everybody Loves Eileen" Released: 1991

Sticky side up was was from the follow up album Tangled in the reigns.

Posted: **Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:56 am**

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:36 am "MFOTY" is a great example here. I think "Down at the Whisky" would've been the much better choice.

Sludge Memory Lane: When the title track came out, the artwork for the single was the bodies from the LP cover arranged to spell "SOLA." Someone here photoshopped it to say "NONA" and instead of "Saints of Los Angeles" at the bottom, it said "I'm out of my head without you."

If the person that made that is still here, just know I'm chuckling about it 17 years later.

ha! Somehere, there's a jump drive filled with all my sludge 'shops, this was probably my favorite... aside from the "Hookerweird" album cover with P13's escort on a jet ski.

Posted: **Fri Mar 07, 2025 12:00 pm**

I already voted on this song earlier today: "So Tired" by Ozzy.

A couple of others:

I liked David Bowie's "Blue Jean" when it came out, but the follow up single "Tonight" was pretty mediocre and boring. Most of the album was.

I like the song, but "Hangman Jury" was a weird choice to follow up "Dude (Looks Like a Lady") instead of "Angel" or "Rag Doll." Aerosmith did the same thing one the next album with "F.I.N.E." following "Love in an Elevator." I like the song, but a curious choice for second single. Didn't hurt either album in the end, right?

Posted: **Fri Mar 07, 2025 12:44 pm**

CrankerBait wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 12:00 pm I already voted on this song earlier today: "So Tired" by Ozzy.

A couple of others:

I liked David Bowie's "Blue Jean" when it came out, but the follow up single "Tonight" was pretty mediocre and boring. Most of the album was.

I like the song, but "Hangman Jury" was a weird choice to follow up "Dude (Looks Like a Lady") instead of "Angel" or "Rag Doll." Aerosmith did the same thing one the next album with "F.I.N.E." following "Love in an Elevator." I like the song, but a curious choice for second single. Didn't hurt either album in the end, right?

F.I.N.E. was not a single. The second single was Janie's Got a Gun.

Posted: **Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:10 pm**

CrankerBait wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 12:00 pm I already voted on this song earlier today: "So Tired" by Ozzy.

Good call, I knew it was crap but forgot it was the 2nd single. For some reason I thought there was one more between Bark and So Tired.

Had to look it up but Give Me More Time was the 2nd single off Slide It In. Probably the weakest song on the album.

Posted: **Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:49 pm**

Love_Industry wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:10 pm
Had to look it up but Give Me More Time was the 2nd single off Slide It In. Probably the weakest song on the album.

Wow. I Love that album, but barely remember that song...much less it being the second single

But looking at the wiki page, none of the first 3 single really make sense, nor do I remember it that way.

1.Guilty of Love
2.Give me More Time
3.Standing in the Shadows
4.Love Ain't no Stranger.

So Slow and Easy, Slide it in, or Gambler were never released. And Love Ain't No stranger was released over a year after the album came out ?

I recall hearing Slide it in and Slow and Easy non stop on the radio.

Posted: **Fri Mar 07, 2025 4:09 pm**

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:28 am Something like this happened with Anthrax and Sound of White Noise, right? I want to say they wanted to follow up "Only" with "Black Lodge" but Elektra dragged ass on "Lodge" and put out "Room for One More" in the interim and it destroyed the momentum. He talks about it in his book but that was like 10 years ago (Neil Young vox:) and I'm getting old.

What's wrong with "Room for One More?" I love that track.

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