New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:46 am
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Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:53 am
This would explain why Wolfgang has always said that you had to talk to Alex as far as all the stuff in the vaults goes.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:54 am
Interesting. However, doing it the right way - taking partially finished tunes and working them into finished songs with Roth, Anthony, and Lukather filling out the gaps... isn't gonna happen.
I don't know what it's going to be like, but I am certain it will suck.
I don't know what it's going to be like, but I am certain it will suck.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:09 am
I will never say anything bad about Lukather. However, I will say you can't put him on a Van Halen album and have it be Van Halen. And I'd say the exact same thing about Satch.FreddyFender wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:54 am Interesting. However, doing it the right way - taking partially finished tunes and working them into finished songs with Roth, Anthony, and Lukather filling out the gaps... isn't gonna happen.
I don't know what it's going to be like, but I am certain it will suck.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:20 am
I was actually gonna bring up Satch, you beat me to it. In that context, suuupppperrrr theoretically...because as an earlier post said, they won't do this right, who could/would finish Ed's parts in such a project? What would a list of 5-10 guys (if there are that many) look like who could possibly step in and do it any justice?Anthrax442 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:09 amI will never say anything bad about Lukather. However, I will say you can't put him on a Van Halen album and have it be Van Halen. And I'd say the exact same thing about Satch.FreddyFender wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:54 am Interesting. However, doing it the right way - taking partially finished tunes and working them into finished songs with Roth, Anthony, and Lukather filling out the gaps... isn't gonna happen.
I don't know what it's going to be like, but I am certain it will suck.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:30 am
If I had my pick of who would fill Ed's shoes in a post-Ed VH, it would be Lukather. Top of the list. I don't need to hear an Ed clone - Steve hears the right notes to play.
But I guarantee you.... it will make no difference. This will still absolutely suck.
But I guarantee you.... it will make no difference. This will still absolutely suck.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:32 am
If you want a guy that can channel EVH playing in his style, tone etc., your two choices are Phil X and/or Pete Thorn.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:54 am
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:19 am
If this is authentic Eddie vault recordings being arranged by some combo of Alex, Lukather, Wolf, MA, Roth, and maybe Sammy, all somehow shaping it together, I think it could be really cool.
(Laughing in advance about “it’ll never happen with Sammy, Alex hates him” - because no feuding rockers have ever patched things up. I’m just saying it’s not impossible).
I also think a lot of people including many on this board will insist that it sucks no matter how good it might turn out. Much like the last vault-esque project they did.
There are a million ways to screw this up and that’s always possible as well.
(Laughing in advance about “it’ll never happen with Sammy, Alex hates him” - because no feuding rockers have ever patched things up. I’m just saying it’s not impossible).
I also think a lot of people including many on this board will insist that it sucks no matter how good it might turn out. Much like the last vault-esque project they did.
There are a million ways to screw this up and that’s always possible as well.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:31 am
Agreed. Different Kind of Truth was awesome. Was it as good as the big 5? No, but it's still great and I'm thrilled it came out. If this comes out and 90% of it sucks, 10% is good, that's more than we had the day before it came out so another win. If it 100% sucks, don't listen and life stays the same. (talking to the masses, not you SterileEyes1)SterileEyes1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:19 am If this is authentic Eddie vault recordings being arranged by some combo of Alex, Lukather, Wolf, MA, Roth, and maybe Sammy, all somehow shaping it together, I think it could be really cool.
(Laughing in advance about “it’ll never happen with Sammy, Alex hates him” - because no feuding rockers have ever patched things up. I’m just saying it’s not impossible).
I also think a lot of people including many on this board will insist that it sucks no matter how good it might turn out. Much like the last vault-esque project they did.
There are a million ways to screw this up and that’s always possible as well.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:57 am
Let's face it, there is only one original recipe.
Anything else is fucked up extra crispy shit!
Anything else is fucked up extra crispy shit!
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:06 pm
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:07 pm
I do understand Alex and Steve are closer in age and will probably see eye-to-eye on the overall project, however, I think Wolfgang would put down the identical guitar style, tone, etc. His VH jam with Dave Grohl was hauntingly identical to EVH.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:16 pm
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:22 pm
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:22 pm
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:34 pm
Check out this kid...doesn't get better than this IMO.madaxeman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:22 pm Absolutely no-one does Edward better than this guy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oseRAg8J0IE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4ko8Qf0-s
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:45 pm
Luke has "covered" a VH track before.
Here's the VH Demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQMHhlW ... HalenVault
Here's Luke's version the VH demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-jfOil ... GeraldChen
Here's the VH Demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQMHhlW ... HalenVault
Here's Luke's version the VH demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-jfOil ... GeraldChen
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:57 pm
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:57 am
Jesus Fuck, people are fucking dense. Lukather is helping put the recordings together, he isn't playing guitar on them.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:59 am
Dweezil is the first person I thought of.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 12:55 pm
https://blabbermouth.net/news/steve-luk ... alen-album
On Saturday (March 15), Lukather took to his Instagram to clarify his possible involvement in a new VAN HALEN album, saying: "For the record: Ever since Alex Van Halen dropped some we were gonna work together I think there is a huge misunderstanding.
"I will NOT EVER play a guitar note on a VH song ever!.
"Al asked me to help him go thru a ton of unfinished recordings of Al and Ed writing and recording that never saw the light of day. As of now thats all I got.
"The fact that ANYONE would think for even a second that I would play anything on this is ridiculous. I have too much love and respect for that and ... I play nothing like Ed.. more as a co-producer or something. I am honored Al would ask me though.
"Lets see ..."
On Saturday (March 15), Lukather took to his Instagram to clarify his possible involvement in a new VAN HALEN album, saying: "For the record: Ever since Alex Van Halen dropped some we were gonna work together I think there is a huge misunderstanding.
"I will NOT EVER play a guitar note on a VH song ever!.
"Al asked me to help him go thru a ton of unfinished recordings of Al and Ed writing and recording that never saw the light of day. As of now thats all I got.
"The fact that ANYONE would think for even a second that I would play anything on this is ridiculous. I have too much love and respect for that and ... I play nothing like Ed.. more as a co-producer or something. I am honored Al would ask me though.
"Lets see ..."
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:34 pm
I personally never thought he was going to to be there to play on anything, just there to help curate.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:26 pm
This. The kid channels his father perfectly.Neil Diamond Dave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:07 pmI do understand Alex and Steve are closer in age and will probably see eye-to-eye on the overall project, however, I think Wolfgang would put down the identical guitar style, tone, etc. His VH jam with Dave Grohl was hauntingly identical to EVH.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:34 pm
AliceManson wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:57 am Jesus Fuck, people are fucking dense. Lukather is helping put the recordings together, he isn't playing guitar on them.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:24 pm
Same guy, years apart.The Prez wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:34 pmCheck out this kid...doesn't get better than this IMO.madaxeman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:22 pm Absolutely no-one does Edward better than this guy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oseRAg8J0IE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4ko8Qf0-s
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:23 pm
That wasn't what was announced at first, which is why Steve had to make that post to clarify.AliceManson wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:57 am Jesus Fuck, people are fucking dense. Lukather is helping put the recordings together, he isn't playing guitar on them.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:17 pm
If anyone is actually going to actually play guitar on any of it, why not use the guy who has based his entire early playing style on EVH's playing and made a career out of it?
He had to alter his playing significantly in order to pull off his own father's music. VH would be a walk in the park now.
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:07 am
Good god.madaxeman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:22 pm Absolutely no-one does Edward better than this guy!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oseRAg8J0IE
Re: New Van Halen with Alex and Lukather
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:33 am
It wasn't implied to. Anybody who didn't have their chromosome count off understood what it meant.Anthrax442 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:23 pmThat wasn't what was announced at first, which is why Steve had to make that post to clarify.AliceManson wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:57 am Jesus Fuck, people are fucking dense. Lukather is helping put the recordings together, he isn't playing guitar on them.