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Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:30 am**

If there was never Elvis Presley, who would then be considered the King of Rock N Roll ?

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:32 am**

Chuck Berry

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:35 am**

Lemmy

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:56 am**

King Diamond

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:59 am**

Dennis DeYoung.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:01 pm**

demolition23 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:32 amChuck Berry

Luigi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:35 amLemmy

Psychobolia.com wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:56 amKing Diamond

These are all correct ... I'd go with Little Richard, that technically might be 'Queen of Rock and Roll' though

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm**

Understanding the roots of rock n roll, do you really think a black guy would have made that happen back in that era? It seems like it would have taken a white guy that grew up in the south and fell in love with those artists to bridge that gap. What do I know? Lemmy is too recent. I'm an Elvis music fan and dug his early days style. I'm not familiar with other white artists that came from that era that didn't go the straight country route.

Johnny Cash?

I understand why he gets pegged as country, but I've never seen it that way. He was more rock n roll in behavior than a lot of rock n rollers.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:14 pm**

Sleek wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:59 amDennis DeYoung.

Hang on, we have a potential winner (wiener??)

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:17 pm**

It's so hard to believe Dennis is heterosexual.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:25 pm**

Jon Bon Jovi 1987

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:44 pm**

demolition23 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:32 am Chuck Berry

He was the king

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:06 pm**

Hatchets Molly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm Understanding the roots of rock n roll, do you really think a black guy would have made that happen back in that era? It seems like it would have taken a white guy that grew up in the south and fell in love with those artists to bridge that gap. What do I know? Lemmy is too recent. I'm an Elvis music fan and dug his early days style. I'm not familiar with other white artists that came from that era that didn't go the straight country route.

Johnny Cash?

I understand why he gets pegged as country, but I've never seen it that way. He was more rock n roll in behavior than a lot of rock n rollers.

""""""""""""Johnny Cash?""""""""""""""

This.

For the Lemmy mention... F'ing nonsense.. not even close.

$tEvil

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:36 pm**

What Elvis did can barely be called Rock n Roll in the modern sense.
I say we give it to Dave Grohl. Or Chad Kroeger.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:48 pm**

You're picking Johny Cash over Lemmy as the undisputed KING OF ROCK AND ROLL??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLv1HxnlWf8

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:53 pm**

There would be four of them - John, Paul, George, and Ringo.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:53 pm**

Hatchets Molly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm Johnny Cash?

I understand why he gets pegged as country, but I've never seen it that way. He was more rock n roll in behavior than a lot of rock n rollers.

In terms of "behavior" I'd choose Merle Haggard over Johnny Cash, since Haggard lived the life Cash only sang about, but Johnny was definitely more popular. Good answer.

Otherwise, maybe Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, or Buddy Holly.

There probably would be a Mount Rushmore instead of a single king.

HueyRamone wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:36 pm Or Chad Kroeger.

Now we're talkin'!

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:56 pm**

Pat Boone

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:27 pm**

MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:06 pm
Hatchets Molly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm Understanding the roots of rock n roll, do you really think a black guy would have made that happen back in that era? It seems like it would have taken a white guy that grew up in the south and fell in love with those artists to bridge that gap. What do I know? Lemmy is too recent. I'm an Elvis music fan and dug his early days style. I'm not familiar with other white artists that came from that era that didn't go the straight country route.

Johnny Cash?

I understand why he gets pegged as country, but I've never seen it that way. He was more rock n roll in behavior than a lot of rock n rollers.
""""""""""""Johnny Cash?""""""""""""""

This.

$tEvil

I think that nobody looks at Johnny Cash as the king of rock and roll because he did not do rock and roll.

Kind of like how nobody claims that Sinatra, Woody Guthrie or Bing Crosby should be.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:33 pm**

Sleek wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:27 pm
Hatchets Molly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:13 pm He was more rock n roll in behavior than a lot of rock n rollers.

I think that nobody looks at Johnny Cash as the king of rock and roll because he did not do rock and roll.

Kind of like how nobody claims that Sinatra, Woody Guthrie or Bing Crosby should be.

Yep. If "Rock N Roll Behavior" got you to be the king of Rock N Roll, then just give it to Jesse James, or Rasputin, or Mozart

I feel like you have to be at least as heavy as the Rolling Stones to be considered Rock N Roll these days, so Elvis and the Beatles are out. Its high time for a critical reevaluation of this genre and The Big Bopper and Richie Valens arent in it any more. They can be "Old-timey proto rock n roll (formerly Rock n Roll)", or O-TPRnR(FRnR) for short, which I think rolls off the tongue.

Im fine with Elvis' new title of "The King of O-TPRnR(FRnR)" or simply, "The King"

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:40 pm**

So would the revivalists be NWOO-TPRnR(FRnR)?

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:42 pm**

Sleek wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:40 pm So would the revivalists be NWOO-TPRnR(FRnR)?

Yes.

It would have been called that for a short time, during the changing of the guard, but the label would largely be an anachronism by now.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:47 pm**

Hatchets Molly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:17 pm It's so hard to believe Dennis is heterosexual.

Especially a hunka hunka burnin love heterosexual.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:50 pm**

VinnieVincentsVag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:44 pm
demolition23 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:32 am Chuck Berry
He was the king

This is the correct answer.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 2:54 pm**

Buddy Holly
Carl Perkins
Bill Haley
Jerry Lee Lewis

It still would have been a white dude borrowing from Chuck Berry, Little Richard, etc...

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:51 pm**

Roy Orbison

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:14 pm**

The baddest cat alive, Top Jimmy he's the King...

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:33 pm**

You guys are missing a huge one: Fats Domino.

If you take Elvis out of the equation, I believe he was the most successful rock act of that era. No, I'm not counting Johnny Cash.

He just seems to have been forgotten vs. guys like Chuck Berry, Little Richard for whatever reason.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:16 pm**

Pete Townsend.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:25 pm**

Having grown up on Johnny Cash, I can definitely say he was not ever and should never be considered "RnR". Not by any definition.

Posted: **Fri Mar 14, 2025 7:30 pm**

Graham Bonnet.

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