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Which band has the best unreleased demos? Was listening to a bunch of Skid Row demos and can't believe that some of them didn't make it on a record and the band hasn't released most of them officially. VH obviously has some great stuff.

Came here to write VH, even after ADKOT there's an album's worth of good demo tracks from the Roth era still left to release.

Queensryche doesn't have that many but those that exist are great. Rage for Order title track, From the Darkside, Waiting for the Kill....

Electric Angels / Candy have some great unreleased demos too.

the second t-ride album demos were very weird but pretty cool....d.m.

Badlands doesn't have a lot of demos out there, but the ones they do have are pretty good. Sound quality is rough, but with some lyric touch ups these songs had potential. Hard to believe some of these never made it on an album.
https://youtu.be/5Lad_DMhnGE?feature=shared

I think the Dusk album was basically demos that were cleaned up and released

Van Halen and Guns N’ Roses.

It’s like they had most of their classic era catalogs already written before they even made their first albums.

I just listened to these Skid Row demos - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 292AE3508F - which has made a good start to the day. Thanks for posting.

Mr Bungle

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:40 am

LovePowerFromTheMamaHead wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:43 pm Badlands doesn't have a lot of demos out there, but the ones they do have are pretty good. Sound quality is rough, but with some lyric touch ups these songs had potential. Hard to believe some of these never made it on an album.
https://youtu.be/5Lad_DMhnGE?feature=shared

Jeeze that’s the best Badlands song I’ve ever heard. Why the fuck wasn’t that on the album?

Almost all the demos posted on youtube are pretty good and could have easily been album tracks. You can tell a few had parts re worked for other songs.
Shakedown and Get Ready, As Time Goes By and Let it Bleed are the ones I really like.

Someone needs to use ai to remaster them and clean them up.

Love_Industry wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:46 pm Came here to write VH, even after ADKOT there's an album's worth of good demo tracks from the Roth era still left to release.

are you referring to NEWER demos and unreleased stuff?

if so, you got any song titles or other info?

alleyrulez wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:29 am

Love_Industry wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:46 pm Came here to write VH, even after ADKOT there's an album's worth of good demo tracks from the Roth era still left to release.

are you referring to NEWER demos and unreleased stuff?

if so, you got any song titles or other info?

Nope, old songs they demoed but didn't use for ADKOT. 35 means 22 were not used but most should be songs we can hear either on older demos or live in the 70s.

Y&T - the 35 demo songs on "Unearthed Vols 1 and 2" were all exceptional.

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:28 pm There’s some contention about that.

Ed said in an interview they demoed something like thirty songs for ADKOT but only completed the ones on the album.

Wolftits shot that down and said the only songs they had were the ones on the album.

So who knows.

Sounds like they did work on 30-35 songs but only the 12 that ended up on the album were ready for release. This leaves 20 or more demo tracks in various degrees of completion. And there are more than 20 unreleased demos and live tracks from the 70s that they could have worked on. Who knows maybe they started working on obscure songs like "Forced Entry" and "Here's Just what you Wanted"...

Not entire catalogs, but a few individual tracks come to mind.

Armored Saint - their 1989 demo of Creepy Feelings is better than the finished version they put out years later.

VVI - the demo of Back On the Streets with Vinnie singing is surprisingly good.

Cinderella - The demo of Nobody's Fool with the heavy arrangement & different lyrics in the second half of the song kicks ass.

SterileEyes1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:05 pm Van Halen and Guns N’ Roses.

It’s like they had most of their classic era catalogs already written before they even made their first albums.

VH have a ton obviously but I've never heard any GNR demos except for Shadow of Your Love that didn't make it onto Appetite. Any other unreleased songs?

DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:41 am

SterileEyes1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:05 pm Van Halen and Guns N’ Roses.

It’s like they had most of their classic era catalogs already written before they even made their first albums.

VH have a ton obviously but I've never heard any GNR demos except for Shadow of Your Love that didn't make it onto Appetite. Any other unreleased songs?

Most of them eneded up on UYI : Don't Cry, You Could Be Mine, Back off Bitch.... totally unreleased I remember the titles Crashdiet, Aint Goin Down and Just Another Sunday.

GoodJudge wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:27 pm I just listened to these Skid Row demos - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 292AE3508F - which has made a good start to the day. Thanks for posting.

Check these out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9CL6a ... WallofRock

BernieTaupson wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:43 am Eric Carr had a handful of surprisingly good songs that were way better than the shit they were releasing in the 80s.

Can You Feel It is better than 90% of 80s KISS.

https://youtu.be/OhgXlLozjpQ?si=fzyuUtuyuATuGEa9

Eyes of Love could have been fixed up a bit, again it’s better than Gene’s schlock.

https://youtu.be/3OR04yffBwU?si=EfPJTjAKTkRfH9S9

Too Cool for School would have worked on Asylum.

https://youtu.be/MJaK3zpvmU0?si=BsYgIWyj8dPmZnu0

Yeah, those got released a few years ago on the Rockology remaster. I really like Can you Feel It and Eyes of Love too.

I nominate Cinderella for "Fear the Night" and the Pat's Chili Dogs jingle. Well, okay, at least "Fear the Night" should have been released:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeQPL7hm-0U

Love_Industry wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:25 pm

DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:41 am

SterileEyes1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:05 pm Van Halen and Guns N’ Roses.

It’s like they had most of their classic era catalogs already written before they even made their first albums.

VH have a ton obviously but I've never heard any GNR demos except for Shadow of Your Love that didn't make it onto Appetite. Any other unreleased songs?

Most of them eneded up on UYI : Don't Cry, You Could Be Mine, Back off Bitch.... totally unreleased I remember the titles Crashdiet, Aint Goin Down and Just Another Sunday.

Demo version of Don't cry is still the best.

GNR had a few tapes that circulated around L.A. before they got signed...the other notable songs that never came out were their covers of Hearbreak Hotel and Jumpin' Jack Flash.

Demo version of Anything Goes has different verses.

JizzySynatra wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:40 pm

GoodJudge wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:27 pm I just listened to these Skid Row demos - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 292AE3508F - which has made a good start to the day. Thanks for posting.

Check these out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9CL6a ... WallofRock

Thank you! That led me to this Matt Fallon interview, https://sleazeroxx.com/interviews/matt- ... interview/ in which I learned a few things about Skid Row, including Rachel's real name and this interesing snippet:

"Back in the early ’80s, Metallica were doing some promo appearances prior to the release of their first album ‘Metal Up Your Ass’ [Kill ‘Em All]. At the time, I was playing with Dave Sabo in a cover band called Steel Fortune and we had a strong local following so we were asked to open for Metallica at their last show. "

Of course the Metallica demos were superb, and changed the metal music scene. I prefer the original lyrics to Jump In The Fire. But it's not strictly 'unreleased' as there was a limited edition Record Store Day official cassette a decade or so ago.

Sleek wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:20 pm GNR had a few tapes that circulated around L.A. before they got signed...the other notable songs that never came out were their covers of Hearbreak Hotel and Jumpin' Jack Flash.

Demo version of Anything Goes has different verses.

I had one of those tapes. A pretty-much full C90. I was all proud of myself, seeing them at Wembley in 1990 pre-UYI, at being one of very few in the crowd who was able to sing along to November Rain.

GoodJudge wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:32 pm
Thank you! That led me to this Matt Fallon interview, https://sleazeroxx.com/interviews/matt- ... interview/ in which I learned a few things about Skid Row, including Rachel's real name and this interesing snippet:

"Back in the early ’80s, Metallica were doing some promo appearances prior to the release of their first album ‘Metal Up Your Ass’ [Kill ‘Em All]. At the time, I was playing with Dave Sabo in a cover band called Steel Fortune and we had a strong local following so we were asked to open for Metallica at their last show. "

Interesting. He was mentioned as a temporary vocalist in Pantera just before Anselmo but that was either false or not worth mentioning.

I first heard of him in a German Metal Hammer where Scott Ian tells they had a vocalist between Turbin and Belladonna, his name was Matt Fallon and "Er war ein arrogantes Arschloch"

Ruby Slippers.

Love_Industry wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:49 am

GoodJudge wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 11:32 pm
Thank you! That led me to this Matt Fallon interview, https://sleazeroxx.com/interviews/matt- ... interview/ in which I learned a few things about Skid Row, including Rachel's real name and this interesing snippet:

"Back in the early ’80s, Metallica were doing some promo appearances prior to the release of their first album ‘Metal Up Your Ass’ [Kill ‘Em All]. At the time, I was playing with Dave Sabo in a cover band called Steel Fortune and we had a strong local following so we were asked to open for Metallica at their last show. "

Interesting. He was mentioned as a temporary vocalist in Pantera just before Anselmo but that was either false or not worth mentioning.

I first heard of him in a German Metal Hammer where Scott Ian tells they had a vocalist between Turbin and Belladonna, his name was Matt Fallon and "Er war ein arrogantes Arschloch"

Don't need Google Translate for that one. But Skids replaced him with ... Sebitchian??

Vain has a lot of decent demo sessions out there.

Ween has an incredible assortment of amazing demos. Pretty much a shadow catalogue.

DwightFry wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:50 am Ween has an incredible assortment of amazing demos. Pretty much a shadow catalogue.

Agreed, lots of great stuff there.

DonJuanDeMarco wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 9:41 am

SterileEyes1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:05 pm Van Halen and Guns N’ Roses.

It’s like they had most of their classic era catalogs already written before they even made their first albums.

VH have a ton obviously but I've never heard any GNR demos except for Shadow of Your Love that didn't make it onto Appetite. Any other unreleased songs?

There was a version of November Rain on cassette circulating down here that I heard once.
It was a rough recording but you could tell it was a good song.