This is savage... TRAINWRECKORDS: Limp Bizkit - Results May Vary

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Brutal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhxhu-y3CpA

[SterileEyes1]

I got 80 seconds in waiting for something about the album and gave up.

It’s a fun album. They make intentionally boneheaded/stupid music, and this is some of their boneheadiest/stupidest music.

I’ll never forget seeing them on this tour. Metallica’s Summer Sanitarium in Summer 2003, L.A. Coliseum. They came out to a sea of boos and by the time they closed with ‘Break Stuff’ the crowd was rabid.

Some of you probably laugh at critics who go after hair metal as though it’s supposed to be fine art or something. This isn’t much different, except these guys are all legit great musicians.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

I got 80 seconds in waiting for something about the album and gave up.

It’s a fun album. They make intentionally boneheaded/stupid music, and this is some of their boneheadiest/stupidest music.

I’ll never forget seeing them on this tour. Metallica’s Summer Sanitarium in Summer 2003, L.A. Coliseum. They came out to a sea of boos and by the time they closed with ‘Break Stuff’ the crowd was rabid.

Some of you probably laugh at critics who go after hair metal as though it’s supposed to be fine art or something. This isn’t much different, except these guys are all legit great musicians.

There's a lot in here I didn't know, but admittedly I'm not a Bizkit scholar.

Spoiler: They almost covered "Total Eclipse of the Heart."

[SterileEyes1]

^^^

I assume they mention the part about EVH coming over for a jam prior to the making of this album, Fred pitching it as “the greatest guitar player ever joining the worst band ever”, and Eddie pulling a gun on him a few days later?


https://www.loudersound.com/news/eddie- ... gun-on-him

[Chip Z'Hoy]

^^^

I assume they mention the part about EVH coming over for a jam prior to the making of this album, Fred pitching it as “the greatest guitar player ever joining the worst band ever”, and Eddie pulling a gun on him a few days later?


https://www.loudersound.com/news/eddie- ... gun-on-him

Eddie's mentioned briefly, but nothing about the gun. The most interesting part left out!

Edit: Oops. The headline is shown, also briefly.

[SterileEyes1]

^^^

Imagining you reading my response earlier and as you’re going through that sentence thinking to yourself, “Yeah yeah yeah they mentioned…wait, WHAT?”

[pieceofme]

I got 80 seconds in waiting for something about the album and gave up.

It’s a fun album. They make intentionally boneheaded/stupid music, and this is some of their boneheadiest/stupidest music.

I’ll never forget seeing them on this tour. Metallica’s Summer Sanitarium in Summer 2003, L.A. Coliseum. They came out to a sea of boos and by the time they closed with ‘Break Stuff’ the crowd was rabid.

Some of you probably laugh at critics who go after hair metal as though it’s supposed to be fine art or something. This isn’t much different, except these guys are all legit great musicians.

There's a lot in here I didn't know, but admittedly I'm not a Bizkit scholar.

Spoiler: They almost covered "Total Eclipse of the Heart."

I remember the days when there was a poster called Limpbizkitfan who posted here. I assume he just got lost when he signed up here.

[SeniorGrande]

I love Todd In The Shadows TRAINWRECKORDS and One Hit Wonders series'.

Can't wait to watch this tonite.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

^^^

Imagining you reading my response earlier and as you’re going through that sentence thinking to yourself, “Yeah yeah yeah they mentioned…wait, WHAT?”

Exactly what happened!

[FreddyFender]

Look forward to checking this out.

I remember them holding open auditions through guitar center, but you had to submit an original composition that they got to keep as use without crediting you. Just Googled and got this:

In 2002, Limp Bizkit held a nationwide contest at Guitar Center locations to find a new guitarist, with strict rules in place. Contestants were required to sign a three-page waiver, agreeing to several restrictions, including no guitar solos, no cover songs (including Limp Bizkit's), and no copyrighted material. Any riffs or ideas created during the audition could be used by Limp Bizkit without compensation, and the band could use the contestants' images in a documentary without payment.

Imagine getting thousands of royalty free riffs from guitarists all over the country, and not being talented enough to figure out how to use them to make 10 decent songs.

[FreddyFender]

Holy shit. Check this out.

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index ... m.1595868/

Still hits a nerve with me. Though I gotta give it credit for being as clever as it was morally reprehensible:

“Some of you may have heard about the LIMP BIZKIT guitarist search. Basically, the band has been 'touring' the country visiting Guitar Center stores, holding auditions for a new guitarist to replace the one who left the band.

“The deal is this. From 7:00 to 11:00 AM you can sign up for a slot to try out that day. The tryouts are from 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM. During this time, they take you into a room to play your stuff. At the end of that time, you leave. They call three to ten people at 5:30 to come back to the place and play in front of LIMP BIZKIT. Out of those people, one is selected to return at 9:00 to jam with the band, and anyone who participated is invited to watch — a free concert, basically.

“So I arrive there, with a copy of our band's full CD in hand. I'm with a friend who wants to try out, so I go ahead and sign up too. We get there at 5:00 AM and we're 83rd and 84th in line. Not incredibly bad. Free Krispy Kreme donuts and coffee, so all isn't too bad.

“10:00 rolls around. The line is moving slow, but that's to be expected. We finally get up around the corner of the building to the front of the line at about noon. Current total time there: 7 hours.

“Get to the table, and I notice there's a waiver you have to sign. No problem, standard stuff. Then I notice it's a three-page contract. This contract basically said that if you play, you must sign the contract. Okay. No big deal here either. So I keep reading it. An interesting note. Anything you play canNOT be copyrighted, and can be used by LIMP BIZKIT in audio, video, or recorded form of any sort. Other big words which basically translated to the fact that if you play something, they are fully authorized to steal it and use it on a CD. The artist agrees to zero compensation and zero rights over the track, and will get their name in the liner notes 'if possible'.

“This didn't sit well, as me and the guy I was with were planning on playing something we wrote with [our band] STARFRONT. So we sign it and decide to make something up. An annoyance at the very least, but we'd waited seven hours to get this far.

“Then we got to stand in the parking lot for another two hours. We finally get inside at about 2:30, where it's another 30-minute wait for your turn. Current total time there: 10 hours.

“So then we get the 'rules'. They are outlined for us straight out. No guitar solos. No playing cover songs. No playing copyrighted material. No playing LIMP BIZKIT songs. “This effectively means that you're forced to play something that you made up, but don't have a copyright for. You may see where this is going.

“Entering the room, there's one guy. He's got a mute button under his foot. His job is to make sure you follow the rules. If you break any, you get muted and kicked out immediately. So I go in, and there's one amp for me to plug into, and the settings are turned to 'mud'. It sounded awful, and was not pleasing to the ears. And it was loud enough that the awfulness didn't go away for some time. Then comes another fun part.

“ 'You have 60 seconds to play. Starting now.'

“One f.cking minute?! I mean, f.cking... okay. So since the thing I'd been planning was two minutes and thirty seconds, I cut most of the parts out. Kept it under time (about 57 seconds), but it still sounded worse than a handful of ass due to that beautiful amplifier (hmm). And I leave the room and the line proceeds. We're told that the winners will be announced at 5:30. And that we are to remain in the front parking lot until that time. No leaving. Period. This makes for unhappy people. We're talking 200+ people here, plus any wives / girlfriends / husbands / boyfriends / family / friends which accompanied them. But what can you do? We stay until 5:30. Total current time there: 12 hours, 30 minutes.

“5:30 rolls around. People are getting ansi. The band management promised 'free pizza'. It came, and there were two boxes of pizza. Two large pizzas. For about two hundred people at least. No cool points here either. Anyway, the clock keeps ticking, and it's 6:00 before we notice anything going on. Guitar Center management flags all their people and security to come inside to discuss something. They go in there, and the guy in charge walks out with a megaphone. After getting everyone's attention, the guy on the megaphone speaks:

“ 'This competition has been called off effective immediately and will not be rescheduled. The band will not be performing with nor for anyone. They will not be signing autographs. This is beyond our control, but please exit the area immediately.'

“The guy then proceeds to enter back inside the huge glass doors, and two armed officers stand behind the door. They lock the building as the massive amount of people head directly towards them. After reaching the building, people start going apesh.t. Cops are called in basically a way to clear the crowd. After about an hour, most have gone home or been 'taken' home by the police. The radio station is completely screwed, having brought their entire broadcast booths out to cover it. Everyone is very, very pissed. Me and the other guy stayed awhile to figure out what was going on. It's now about 7:30 PM.

“FM99 is having a field day with it. They're referring to this as 'F.ck Fred Durst Friday', taking calls in from people who went. But unless you've read this carefully, I don't think you understand what happened.

“LIMP BIZKIT now has over 200 guitar parts, written by various artists around here, which are unowned and not copyrighted. LIMP BIZKIT now owns these riffs. LIMP BIZKIT just stole 200 pieces of material right out from under these guitarists' noses, myself included. If I'd played something off our CD, I would be ABSOLUTELY pissed. I *am* absolutely pissed. They have completely ripped off hundreds of people, and they're getting away with it because they can. They're on their way to Georgia, and the radio station here has given out request line numbers for the stations down there for us to call and let them know what's happening over the course of this event, to warn them. But people aren't going to buy it. They're going to go and get their sh.t stolen too.

“Someone needs to beat the living hell out of him. He's an asshole, and someone who doesn't deserve to be breathing the same air as a f.cking cockroach.

“To add insult to injury, Guitar Center ran a contest where the winner would get to watch the band play even if they didn't play guitar. One person and a friend. That person also won an autographed Gibson Les Paul Studio ($1500+ guitar) by the band. She showed up after a near 200-mile drive to the area. Guitar Center told her that the band refused to acknowledge the contest at this point, and so not only did she drive three and a half hours for no performance (which she took her ten-year-old kid to see as his first concert), but apparently the guitar wasn't given either. All because the band wanted to be one giant collective asshole.

“If any of you know anyone who's considering going to these tryouts, show them this message. If they have any questions they can contact me directly. I'm doing everything I possibly can to make sure this does NOT happen to anyone else. It's not my stuff I'm concerned about — our CD is copyrighted completely and legally — but I'm guessing 90% of the local bands who passed Durst a copy of their CD are going to be f.cked. Many bands, especially newer local ones, don't have the money or know-how to copyright their stuff, and by giving it to them tonight, they just basically tossed them a new LIMP BIZKIT CD if Fred wants to do that. I wouldn't be surprised if he copyrights their sh.t tomorrow.

“It hurts to look around and see hundreds of people get excited at the chance to be able to make something of their guitar work to have a shot at being in a popular band, making a living doing what they dream of. Fred Durst and LIMP BIZKIT are taking that dream and ****ing it over. And anyone who wasn't there who just caught the coverage at noon and 5:00 on the news just think everything is perfect. Happy Fred Durst in front of the cameras behind the place, fenced off, saying how good the turnout is and how happy everyone seems, and talking about all the great sh.t he's hearing. That man is the true meaning of a music label representative. He's the perfect salesman and nice guy in front of the media, and turns around and screws everyone involved in the ass without having to take any hit in his overall popularity, and possibly gaining a sh.t ton of new music in the process that he's ripped from people.

“Not many things piss me off, but I'm pissed off. I'm not the only one. All sorts of 'this band is playing tonight at this place, and they'd like me to announce to Fred Durst that if you're still in the area and you come to this venue, you will be able to see what a REAL band is like — right before the real band beats your skull in.' This radio station is sick of the sh.t from this band, and so are its listeners. If this keeps happening, I wouldn't be surprised if some sh.t goes down somewhere really damn soon. If it does, I'll let you know.”

They also used an MP3 upload site for guitarists to upload their original/uncopywrited guitar work, subject to the same contract.

The supposed "documentary" was never made or mentioned after this happened.

Durst apparently was a VP for Interscope, and he used schemes like this to get media coverage for the band and help promote album sales. Pretty much every city they did this in was covered by it's local TV news stations.

[HueyRamone]

Imagine getting thousands of royalty free riffs from guitarists all over the country, and not being talented enough to figure out how to use them to make 10 decent songs.

Limp seemed adrift at the time, but I still think it's implausible that they would unethically mine guitar riffs out of amateurs who showed to to open auditions at a guitar center. They've got the money to hire a bunch of people like the Snot guy or other pros.

The reason you had to sign your rights away to the music and couldnt use any copyrighted stuff was so they wouldnt have to worry if the noodling of any weirdo who would stand in the sun for 17 hours to play for 60 seconds on a shitty amp made it into a reality show about this.

Those "Open auditions to join the band" are all full of shit. No famous band has anything but contempt for local players they dont know and who have no connections. It was dickish of Limp to do this and it was equally dickish when Steel Panther did it. And obviously in both cases, it was totally fake, and they went with a friend/signed artist in the end.

[Wednesday 13 Fan]

Imagine getting thousands of royalty free riffs from guitarists all over the country, and not being talented enough to figure out how to use them to make 10 decent songs.

Limp seemed adrift at the time, but I still think it's implausible that they would unethically mine guitar riffs out of amateurs who showed to to open auditions at a guitar center. They've got the money to hire a bunch of people like the Snot guy or other pros.

The reason you had to sign your rights away to the music and couldnt use any copyrighted stuff was so they wouldnt have to worry if the noodling of any weirdo who would stand in the sun for 17 hours to play for 60 seconds on a shitty amp made it into a reality show about this.

Those "Open auditions to join the band" are all full of shit. No famous band has anything but contempt for local players they dont know and who have no connections. It was dickish of Limp to do this and it was equally dickish when Steel Panther did it. And obviously in both cases, it was totally fake, and they went with a friend/signed artist in the end.

"They've got the money...."

Bit of a laugh, eh?

The one thing rich people hate more than anything is spending money, particularly when they don't have to.

[woblinweebles]

Those "Open auditions to join the band" are all full of shit. No famous band has anything but contempt for local players they dont know and who have no connections. It was dickish of Limp to do this and it was equally dickish when Steel Panther did it. And obviously in both cases, it was totally fake, and they went with a friend/signed artist in the end.

These guys did the same thing in the early 90s. They ended up going with their former drummer's twin brother, who had played with them before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szBIPpeeqjY

[Chip Z'Hoy]

These guys did the same thing in the early 90s. They ended up going with their former drummer's twin brother, who had played with them before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szBIPpeeqjY

"If you can count to four, several times in a row... I mean, that's all we really need."

[Grendel]

What was the username of the poster who offended Fred so much he named him "Boojie?"

[Hellsinkey]

What was the username of the poster who offended Fred so much he named him "Boojie?"

That was OVD aka Ozzy Van Durst. I'd say R.I.P. but he was a cunt.

[HueyRamone]

What was the username of the poster who offended Fred so much he named him "Boojie?"

That was OVD aka Ozzy Van Durst. I'd say R.I.P. but he was a cunt.

what did he die of?

[Hellsinkey]

What was the username of the poster who offended Fred so much he named him "Boojie?"

That was OVD aka Ozzy Van Durst. I'd say R.I.P. but he was a cunt.

what did he die of?

I don't remember, but I think he was 37.

[SeniorGrande]

What was the username of the poster who offended Fred so much he named him "Boojie?"

That was OVD aka Ozzy Van Durst. I'd say R.I.P. but he was a cunt.

what did he die of?

An un-rewound Hysteria cassette

[Gibsonite]

That was OVD aka Ozzy Van Durst. I'd say R.I.P. but he was a cunt.

what did he die of?

I don't remember, but I think he was 37.

Diabetes-related issues I believe. He once left a comment on the LB page that annoyed Fred Durst so much that he wrote a scathing, long-winded reply in response and named OVD "Boojie" in the process. He was clowned endlessly on here afterwards

[Chip Z'Hoy]

Diabetes-related issues I believe. He once left a comment on the LB page that annoyed Fred Durst so much that he wrote a scathing, long-winded reply in response and named OVD "Boojie" in the process. He was clowned endlessly on here afterwards

The funny thing is that he didn't even seem like a Limp fan--he only liked a couple songs and those were ballads/mellow jams. He didn't like any of their rap metal tunes. So he wrote some comment about how Limp should do "classy" music again, like those songs, and Fred blew his stack.

The Lep tape was just as funny. Left a neutral (I think?) review for a $2 cassette because it wasn't rewound and the seller said "For $2 you can rewind it yourself."

I think the only other music he liked was Oni Logan. Just the most random dude.

I entertained the idea of him not being a real guy, a character like Brett Meisner, but I think there was an obit. Such a mindbend, the discovery that someone like this existed.

"I like Limp Bizkit but only their slow songs." Who says that!!!!!

[HueyRamone]

"I like Limp Bizkit but only their slow songs." Who says that!!!!!

Does that mean he liked "My Way" but only up to the point before the chorus?

[Gibsonite]

Diabetes-related issues I believe. He once left a comment on the LB page that annoyed Fred Durst so much that he wrote a scathing, long-winded reply in response and named OVD "Boojie" in the process. He was clowned endlessly on here afterwards

The funny thing is that he didn't even seem like a Limp fan--he only liked a couple songs and those were ballads/mellow jams. He didn't like any of their rap metal tunes. So he wrote some comment about how Limp should do "classy" music again, like those songs, and Fred blew his stack.

The Lep tape was just as funny. Left a neutral (I think?) review for a $2 cassette because it wasn't rewound and the seller said "For $2 you can rewind it yourself."

I think the only other music he liked was Oni Logan. Just the most random dude.

I entertained the idea of him not being a real guy, a character like Brett Meisner, but I think there was an obit. Such a mindbend, the discovery that someone like this existed.

"I like Limp Bizkit but only their slow songs." Who says that!!!!!

Haha!! The Hysteria tape lol

His name was Scott if my memory is correct. That was a loooong time ago now

[Chip Z'Hoy]

That's definitely one of the middle-era Sludge things I kinda miss, that there were some truly strange people. Someone like The Ove was just one step away from being a street person talking to a pylon.

Poizond13... just how. HOW. How is that a real person.

Writing reviews for hookers!

[HueyRamone]

Writing reviews for hookers!

P13 might have been a maniac, but if there's one industry that needs reviews, i think it's hookers. You gotta know if you're gonna get your promised Cleveland Steamer, or if it's actually just a large dude behind the door waiting to hit you over the head with a sack of pennies.

[Chip Z'Hoy]

P13 might have been a maniac, but if there's one industry that needs reviews, i think it's hookers. You gotta know if you're gonna get your promised Cleveland Steamer, or if it's actually just a large dude behind the door waiting to hit you over the head with a sack of pennies.

Might be the only thing I liked about him, helping those girls out like that.

[Ryan81]

Coincidentally I just discovered this series yesterday and I must have watched 8 or so episodes last night/this morning. Including the Limp Bizkit one. Those videos are friggin' hilarious. The Kid Rock one was funny. The Generation Swine one was great. They were all good!

So did Limp Bizkit pull that stunt in every city the contest was in? I don't see how they could get away with that more than a few times. Still that was chickenshit for them to do that.