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Posted: **Fri May 23, 2025 10:10 pm**

I like falsetto harmonies, to an extent. Eagles (new kid in town), and BeeGees (how deep).

But, lots of people hate the BeeGees, ...even though to me, they're a much much better pop band. The songs, the performance, better.

I'd describe the Beach Boys as an overly sappy croon show, trying to capture an Elvis type moment of California culture over and over.

Seriously, I've never met anybody who admitted that they hate the Beach Boys.

Yet their music is considered classic.

Brian Wilson is considered a prodigy, whereas, a singer like peter cetera is infinitely better, and not in the rock hall as Chicago

Posted: **Fri May 23, 2025 10:13 pm**

If you dislike the Beach Boys, ICE should come take you from your home.

Posted: **Fri May 23, 2025 10:17 pm**

I also hate Jimmy Buffet. A goofy schmaltz act.

Maybe I'm headed to Guantanamo.

Posted: **Fri May 23, 2025 11:45 pm**

Someone hates Beach Boys- I’m ok with that, why would I give a f*ck
Beach Boys great- Funhouse at Whisky Sep 13 that’s what f*cking matters

Dude from Full House wants to play with Beach Boys- great why f*cking not
Bring Beach Boys/Locash tour to So Cal..yea do this

Posted: **Fri May 23, 2025 11:46 pm**

Saw Jimmy Buffet play free beach festival on the beach as a last moment replacement…that was good enough
His fans are old old low class beach trash

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 12:31 am**

Brain Wilson was/is a fucking genius. But it's OK to not like their music. It’s not for everyone. His production ideas and insight cannot be ignored. I also love his bass lines.

p.s. Mike Love seems like a real asshole

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 3:50 am**

The deeper I got into Brian Wilson and learning about how he understands music, and how he interprets it, the more I got into the Beach Boys.

I'm a huge Beatles fan, I might listen to them every day, but I don't think Lennon was a genius. I like Dylan almost as much--not a genius. Both brilliant, but I don't think they had that God-given thing where they understood music and songwriting on a superhuman level like Brian Wilson did.

Also, the Beach Boys is just this great American family tragedy. Charlie Manson got involved at one point. Shit was nuts.

You could say the Beach Boys, symbolically, is the ultimate American band. So much of their music is "Aw shucks, let's drive cars" and "Boy is she foxy!" but then under the surface is this misery and decay.

Dennis Wilson, THE surfer dude, drowned. That's America right there.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 3:56 am**

Oh, and if you're into having nightmarish drug experiences, I strongly recommend Smiley Smile.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 4:18 am**

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 12:31 am Brain Wilson was/is a fucking genius.

p.s. Mike Love seems like a real asshole

I concur.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 4:49 am**

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 3:50 am The deeper I got into Brian Wilson and learning about how he understands music, and how he interprets it, the more I got into the Beach Boys.

I'm a huge Beatles fan, I might listen to them every day, but I don't think Lennon was a genius. I like Dylan almost as much--not a genius. Both brilliant, but I don't think they had that God-given thing where they understood music and songwriting on a superhuman level like Brian Wilson did.

Also, the Beach Boys is just this great American family tragedy. Charlie Manson got involved at one point. Shit was nuts.

You could say the Beach Boys, symbolically, is the ultimate American band. So much of their music is "Aw shucks, let's drive cars" and "Boy is she foxy!" but then under the surface is this misery and decay.

Dennis Wilson, THE surfer dude, drowned. That's America right there.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 4:53 am**

Interesting.

Prodigy's are basically great at one thing.

I agree that Wilson is a prodigy, as far as creating unforgettable melodies.

Ditto Elton John, Don Henley, Joni Mitchell, Todd rundgren

But I'm not sure why the beach boys are universally regarded as the all American sound.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 5:05 am**

If aliens wanted to know what American music was, I'd play them Beach Boys, Phil Spector, Motown, and, I don't know, maybe Kiss. Confuse them a little.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 5:41 am**

Olivia Sophia wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 10:10 pm I like falsetto harmonies, to an extent. Eagles (new kid in town), and BeeGees (how deep).

But, lots of people hate the BeeGees, ...even though to me, they're a much much better pop band. The songs, the performance, better.

I'd describe the Beach Boys as an overly sappy croon show, trying to capture an Elvis type moment of California culture over and over.

Seriously, I've never met anybody who admitted that they hate the Beach Boys.

Yet their music is considered classic.

Brian Wilson is considered a prodigy, whereas, a singer like peter cetera is infinitely better, and not in the rock hall as Chicago

Go listen to the finished "Smile" album. Cetera isn't even close - not remotely.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 5:45 am**

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 5:05 am If aliens wanted to know what American music was, I'd play them Beach Boys, Phil Spector, Motown, and, I don't know, maybe Kiss. Confuse them a little.

I'd play them Bill Monroe, Miles Davis, Steely Dan, Van Halen, Metallica, Stevie Wonder, and Pat Metheny.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 7:14 am**

The music is fine, and when you consider in context to Brian trying to be an American answer to the Beatles, it's very era appropriate.

However, that doesn't mean that several of them were/are gigantic assholes.

This begs another question, which American band was the bigger bunch of assholes, The Beach Boys or The Eagles?

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 7:45 am**

Van Ailin' wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 5:45 am
Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 5:05 am If aliens wanted to know what American music was, I'd play them Beach Boys, Phil Spector, Motown, and, I don't know, maybe Kiss. Confuse them a little.
I'd play them Bill Monroe, Miles Davis, Steely Dan, Van Halen, Metallica, Stevie Wonder, and Pat Metheny.

Van Halen--shit, sorry aliens, that's a really good one. Hard rock Beach Boys, another musical genius.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 8:44 am**

That all depends what happened with your hemorrhoid.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 8:47 am**

I like The Beach Boys mostly because of Brian Wilson's unique song structures and changes, especially the way his bass lines are usually much more complicated than simply playing the tonic.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 11:35 am**

Anthrax442 wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 7:14 am The music is fine, and when you consider in context to Brian trying to be an American answer to the Beatles, it's very era appropriate.

However, that doesn't mean that several of them were/are gigantic assholes.

This begs another question, which American band was the bigger bunch of assholes, The Beach Boys or The Eagles?

KISS

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 4:42 pm**

I'm not a fan. I tried to listen to Pet Sounds a few times based on recommendations from people I respect, but it's not my thing.

I thought for a long time when Hendrix said 'there will be no more surf music' in Third Stone From the Sun it was a dig on the Beach Boys, but then I read it was actually about Dick Dale who Hendrix respected.

Posted: **Sat May 24, 2025 7:16 pm**

Wiseacre wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 12:31 am Brain Wilson was/is a fucking genius. But it's OK to not like their music. It’s not for everyone. His production ideas and insight cannot be ignored. I also love his bass lines.

p.s. Mike Love seems like a real asshole

This is pretty much the thread.

And the BeeGees got lumped in with "LOL DISCO" and Disco never got a "Rolling Stone magazine decided that this or that artist was brilliant 20-30 years later" phase like most types of music. With the slight exception that the black female singers dont get made fun of because they're black and female.

Posted: **Sun May 25, 2025 6:03 am**

Pop band. Ok. Just not my type. The harmonies and falsetto vocals. Never liked BeeGees either. Never liked disco.

Posted: **Mon May 26, 2025 11:08 am**

Chip Z'Hoy wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 5:05 am If aliens wanted to know what American music was, I'd play them Beach Boys, Phil Spector, Motown, and, I don't know, maybe Kiss. Confuse them a little.

Rofl. KISS. I LOVE IT.

I think in that scenario I'd play RUMOURS

Posted: **Mon May 26, 2025 11:14 am**

Oddly, beach boys, Jimmy buffet have that ONE thing in common. Beach music.

I wonder what Dave mustaine considers "beach music"

Posted: **Mon May 26, 2025 11:20 am**

Nate S Axel wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:44 am That all depends what happened with your hemorrhoid.

Luckily that hemorrhoid was never yanked out .

I had decided that IT COULD be pulled out, but, it was hard to calculate the damage.

Oh, and the pain.

A Richard gere-like ER situation, albeit, a female crack smooth, luxurious, white as a dwarf star

Posted: **Mon May 26, 2025 11:51 am**

I'm pretty sure I only know their hits, but I hate the Beach Boys. Just syrupy drivel.

Maybe their deeper cuts are better? But I hate the stuff I know enough to not bother to dig in.

Posted: **Mon May 26, 2025 2:37 pm**

Velvis wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 11:51 am I'm pretty sure I only know their hits, but I hate the Beach Boys. Just syrupy drivel.

Maybe their deeper cuts are better? But I hate the stuff I know enough to not bother to dig in.

Please leave this country immediately so we can continue to maga

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 5:37 am**

Olivia Sophia wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 10:10 pm I like falsetto harmonies, to an extent. Eagles (new kid in town), and BeeGees (how deep).

But, lots of people hate the BeeGees, ...even though to me, they're a much much better pop band. The songs, the performance, better.

I'd describe the Beach Boys as an overly sappy croon show, trying to capture an Elvis type moment of California culture over and over.

Seriously, I've never met anybody who admitted that they hate the Beach Boys.

Yet their music is considered classic.

Brian Wilson is considered a prodigy, whereas, a singer like peter cetera is infinitely better, and not in the rock hall as Chicago

I can't stand them and think they are sappy garbage. Wussy music.

Posted: **Tue May 27, 2025 5:50 am**

I always hated The Beach Boys and Jan & Dean when it comes to "surf music" because it isn't what I consider true surf music. It's pop drivel. Mike Love is an asshole too.

Dick Dale is surf music.

Posted: **Wed May 28, 2025 8:59 am**

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