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Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:06 pm
by AlexVonHaig
Ozzy is an obvious one here but there are others.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:09 pm
by HueyRamone
Eric Adams
Roger Daltrey
Vince Neil

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:31 pm
by Nate S Axel
Chris "Izzy" Cole

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:41 pm
by BiggusDickus
Arnel Pineda
Ray Gillen

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:02 pm
by HueyRamone
Ripper Owens

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:16 pm
by Tommy2Tone84
Paul Di’Anno and he was still better than most of the clowns worshipped around here.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:31 pm
by roxxxtar
Sebastian Bach

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:34 pm
by kytepunches
Geddy Lee of Rush and Tom Araya of Slayer come to mind.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:35 pm
by Borges
Joey Belladona
Corpsegrinder from Cannibal Corpse

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:41 pm
by Dave Muffstaine
Belinda Carlisle

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:34 pm
by Traxan
Nightwish's revolving door of singers.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:09 pm
by Anthrax442
HueyRamone wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:02 pm Ripper Owens
There's a reason for that. Listen to his solo album Play My Game, where he has co-writes on every track. It's...something.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:50 pm
by Van Ailin'
BiggusDickus wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:41 pm Arnel Pineda
Ray Gillen
Gillen wrote quite a bit in Badlands.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:59 pm
by HueyRamone
Anthrax442 wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:09 pm
HueyRamone wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:02 pm Ripper Owens
There's a reason for that. Listen to his solo album Play My Game, where he has co-writes on every track. It's...something.
Now youre making me want to!

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:02 pm
by Van Ailin'
kytepunches wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:34 pm Geddy Lee of Rush and Tom Araya of Slayer come to mind.
Geddy Lee wrote almost all of Rush's music. He just didn't write the lyrics.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:27 pm
by GoodJudge
roxxxtar wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:31 pm Sebastian Bach
Hey! He wrote some all-important screams. Skids'd never have been so successful without those

Michael Monroe when in Hanoi Rocks.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:27 am
by keyofgee
most modern country artists. The more i learn about Nashville...It's like santa claus. FAKE>

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:20 am
by JinglesTheChristmasMouse
Robin Zander.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:40 am
by TravisBicklesMohawk
AlexVonHaig wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:06 pm Ozzy is an obvious one here but there are others.
Fun when Sharon thinks he wrote Mamma I'm Coming Home just for her. Uh, no.
Lemmy wrote the song and it definitely wasn't written for that hideous bridge troll.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:40 pm
by Rocker4Real
Sebastian insisted on co-writing a few songs on Slave and Subhuman.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:46 pm
by Nate S Axel
keyofgee wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:27 am most modern country artists. The more i learn about Nashville...It's like santa claus. FAKE>
Name some names; I would say most of the biggest names on the charts and a lot of the newest artists at least co-write some of their songs. For the “fossils” like Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan or Blake Shelton now, they have no need to (even though Aldean and Bryan have a few co-writes on their last albums), but when I’m looking at the credits of most country songs, most artists at least have a co-writing credit.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:48 pm
by LurkingAtWork
Bob Catley from Magnum. The guitarist wrote everything.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:15 pm
by CrankerBait
Roger Daltrey is the most obvious answer. Brad Delp, Robin Zander and Liam Gallagher are lead singers with a few credits or co-writes to their names, but like Daltrey, were also in bands where the lead guitarist wrote the lion's share of the material. Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode is another: Martin Gore wrote almost everything on his own. Robbie Robertson got most of the writing credits for The Band, but wasn't one of the three main singers.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:39 pm
by VinnieVincentsVag
kytepunches wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:34 pm Geddy Lee of Rush and Tom Araya of Slayer come to mind.
Not a Slayer fan….who wrote the lyrics?

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:04 pm
by Borges
VinnieVincentsVag wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:39 pm
kytepunches wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:34 pm Geddy Lee of Rush and Tom Araya of Slayer come to mind.
Not a Slayer fan….who wrote the lyrics?
Mostly King and Hanneman on the early albums. Araya wrote a big chunk of lyrics from South of Heaven onwards, mostly in songs where the music was written by Hanneman. Araya (and Hanemann) lyrics were usualy better written and mostly about war/serial killers, King's lyrics were about satanic/anti christian/tough guy topics and usually cruder and dumber. If I recall correctly the last album was almost all King.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:46 pm
by Kid-Wicked
there are 3 parts to song writing.
music
lyrics
melody
MOST singers contribute to writing the melody.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:31 pm
by Van Ailin'
An obvious one missed: Elvis Presley.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:49 am
by keyofgee
Nate S Axel wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:46 pm
keyofgee wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:27 am most modern country artists. The more i learn about Nashville...It's like santa claus. FAKE>
Name some names; I would say most of the biggest names on the charts and a lot of the newest artists at least co-write some of their songs. For the “fossils” like Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan or Blake Shelton now, they have no need to (even though Aldean and Bryan have a few co-writes on their last albums), but when I’m looking at the credits of most country songs, most artists at least have a co-writing credit.
Nashville has a unwritten songwriting rule of thumb. Its just expected and no one cares I guess, whomever is in the writing secession gets a writing credit even if they didn't add one word. They were there. they sat in. they may have made suggestions and it didn't work. they are still in. I have been able to float around the aldean writing ppl team and others of his league and seen it first hand to name drop one. there are others. And if I was submitting a song for someone that huge to possibly track? I would give them main songwriting credit because it would be a good revenue stream since that name carries weight. I have sat in writing sessions where I wrote all the music, split the lyrics between three of us combined and since others were there sayin "sounds good" or that doesn't fit right", they were included in the song writing credits. And due to the potential of one of mine getting picked up, i gave up 50% of the writing credit. The ppl that have it can do more with it than I could ever do..so there you go...
George strait, 44 #1 hits. Didn't write a lyric. Coolio. Gangsters paradise. Sampled a Stevie Wonder song. Stevie demanded 70% of writing credit for it and got it. There were 13 writers on that song. Coolio made his performance money and had to split the song sales that many ways. He may have made money but he lost a ton with that many writers.


most hiphop country these days sounds like its the same writer/s on a lot of them. I have not dug into it to confirm, but they all have the same fingerprints.

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:59 am
by AliceManson
kytepunches wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:34 pm Geddy Lee of Rush and Tom Araya of Slayer come to mind.
Geddy cowrote every Rush song. And Araya has enough cowrites. What are you retarded?

Re: Lead singers who didn't write shite or very little.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:07 am
by tooth
keyofgee wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:49 am
Nate S Axel wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:46 pm
keyofgee wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:27 am most modern country artists. The more i learn about Nashville...It's like santa claus. FAKE>
Name some names; I would say most of the biggest names on the charts and a lot of the newest artists at least co-write some of their songs. For the “fossils” like Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan or Blake Shelton now, they have no need to (even though Aldean and Bryan have a few co-writes on their last albums), but when I’m looking at the credits of most country songs, most artists at least have a co-writing credit.
Nashville has a unwritten songwriting rule of thumb. Its just expected and no one cares I guess, whomever is in the writing secession gets a writing credit even if they didn't add one word. They were there. they sat in. they may have made suggestions and it didn't work. they are still in. I have been able to float around the aldean writing ppl team and others of his league and seen it first hand to name drop one. there are others. And if I was submitting a song for someone that huge to possibly track? I would give them main songwriting credit because it would be a good revenue stream since that name carries weight. I have sat in writing sessions where I wrote all the music, split the lyrics between three of us combined and since others were there sayin "sounds good" or that doesn't fit right", they were included in the song writing credits. And due to the potential of one of mine getting picked up, i gave up 50% of the writing credit. The ppl that have it can do more with it than I could ever do..so there you go...
George strait, 44 #1 hits. Didn't write a lyric. Coolio. Gangsters paradise. Sampled a Stevie Wonder song. Stevie demanded 70% of writing credit for it and got it. There were 13 writers on that song. Coolio made his performance money and had to split the song sales that many ways. He may have made money but he lost a ton with that many writers.


most hiphop country these days sounds like its the same writer/s on a lot of them. I have not dug into it to confirm, but they all have the same fingerprints.
Not sure how you work but, do you have riffs/ideas "put aside" that you feel are especially strong for the likes of, say, a Jason Aldean when/if the chance comes? Like how do you decide, this is an eightball song/that's for an established artist etc.?