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I think of guys like Robert Trujillo and Ray Luzier becoming full members of Metallica and Korn after replacing the original members. Are musicians who are offered positions like this actually “full share” or are they brought at say 5-15% share of the band? Who else was brought in after the fact as a full share, paid member?

Ron Wood, Matthias Jabs and Vivian Campbell. Vivian is really the only one who replaced an OG since both Ron and Matthias replaced replacements. Same with Trujillo.

Tommy Shaw
Travis Barker
Andreas Kisser

Tommy Thayer



Ahh... but seriously. Richie Faulkner, probably?
Bruce Dickinson
Phil Collen

Was newsted a paid member?

Steve Howe, Rick Wakeman, and Alan White in Yes (not Trevor Rabin as he didn't replace an OG)

Steve Hogarth and Ian Mosley in Marillion

Steve Hackett in Genesis (until they let him go)

Fernando von Arb in Krokus (not Marc Storace as he didn't replace the original singer)

Jonathan Cain in Journey

Sammy Hagar in Van Halen (Sam even brought his manager, which made him temporarily like 40% of the band)

David Gilmour in Pink Floyd

Bruce Dickinson

Brian Johnson. The intro-net says that at first he was a paid member, but then got full status w/ royalties, etc...

The bass player singer in Little River Band. Then he was last man standing and when 2 of the OG's wanted back in he said fuck you I own it all now and I'm paying scabs.
Christine, Stevie, Lindsey in FM.
Felder in the Eagles. Until Don and Glenn said fuck that when Hell Freezes Over tour started.

Always curious about the structure of the Eagles.

Venus Flytrap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:03 am The bass player singer in Little River Band. Then he was last man standing and when 2 of the OG's wanted back in he said fuck you I own it all now and I'm paying scabs.
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Felder in the Eagles. Until Don and Glenn said fuck that when Hell Freezes Over tour started.

It was the lead guitarist who joined in 1981 in LRB who ended up with the name. He hasn't actually played with the band in almost 20 years, he just stays home and collects the cash. The bass player joined the band shortly before the guitar player, but left for a bit in the 90s, so he's an employee.

Felder wasn't a replacement, they went from a four piece to a five piece.

Van Ailin' wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:01 pm
Steve Hackett in Genesis (until they let him go)

I was under the impression Steve quit. Is that not the case?

woblinweebles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:24 am

Venus Flytrap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:03 am The bass player singer in Little River Band. Then he was last man standing and when 2 of the OG's wanted back in he said fuck you I own it all now and I'm paying scabs.
<snip>
Felder in the Eagles. Until Don and Glenn said fuck that when Hell Freezes Over tour started.

It was the lead guitarist who joined in 1981 in LRB who ended up with the name. He hasn't actually played with the band in almost 20 years, he just stays home and collects the cash. The bass player joined the band shortly before the guitar player, but left for a bit in the 90s, so he's an employee.

How much cash does one make from playing the Peoria Holiday Inn? I can't imagine that the Little River Band is a cash cow.

Anthrax442 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:08 am

Van Ailin' wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:01 pm
Steve Hackett in Genesis (until they let him go)

I was under the impression Steve quit. Is that not the case?

Possible. But he was a member, and he replaced the OG (Anthony Phillips).

ElectrickMagick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:53 am

woblinweebles wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:24 am

Venus Flytrap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:03 am The bass player singer in Little River Band. Then he was last man standing and when 2 of the OG's wanted back in he said fuck you I own it all now and I'm paying scabs.
<snip>
Felder in the Eagles. Until Don and Glenn said fuck that when Hell Freezes Over tour started.

It was the lead guitarist who joined in 1981 in LRB who ended up with the name. He hasn't actually played with the band in almost 20 years, he just stays home and collects the cash. The bass player joined the band shortly before the guitar player, but left for a bit in the 90s, so he's an employee.

How much cash does one make from playing the Peoria Holiday Inn? I can't imagine that the Little River Band is a cash cow.

Maybe it is because the bass player is from this area, but they seem to come through the area at least once or twice a year. Most of the time they play one of the casinos, but they sometimes book theaters, summer festivals, state fairs, etc... My friends' band opened for them at one of those festivals and that's how I found out they had no original members, just one classic one. This summer they are playing the big shed with the equally scabtastic Three Dog Night, so they must be making decent money.

Kevin Cronin replacing Terry Luttrell in REO Speedwagon

GoodJudge wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 11:00 pm Bruce Dickinson

Nicko and Adrian Smith also. Though I am not sure if Dennis Straton (or even Clive Burr) were actually partners or if at that point it was just Harris/Murray

Can't believe nobody's mentioned Phil Collen...

Tommy2Tone84 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:50 pm Ron Wood, Matthias Jabs and Vivian Campbell. Vivian is really the only one who replaced an OG since both Ron and Matthias replaced replacements. Same with Trujillo.

Wood wasn't until 1989

CGaijin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:47 pm Can't believe nobody's mentioned Phil Collen...

HueyRamone wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:36 pm Bruce Dickinson
Phil Collen

Indy_Rob wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:04 pm

CGaijin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:47 pm Can't believe nobody's mentioned Phil Collen...

HueyRamone wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:36 pm Bruce Dickinson
Phil Collen

Derp... my bad. Must've skimmed right over it.

Bass player of Rival Sons. Replaced guy after first album I believe. I remember singer said they had to ensure all was good with writing, touring etc before he became a full member. That was well over 10 years ago.

Venus Flytrap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:03 am The bass player singer in Little River Band. Then he was last man standing and when 2 of the OG's wanted back in he said fuck you I own it all now and I'm paying scabs.

Close, it's actually guitarist Stephen Housden who owns the name. Seems like a p.o.s. to me. Perhaps the og guys need to take notes from that Guess Who guy who was able to pull all of his music and prevent it from being played live so the scab Guess Who couldn't play any of the well known hits.

Ron Wood became a full partner in the Stones in 1990, about fifteen years after he joined the band. Better late than never...

Thebottomline wrote: ↑Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:24 am

Venus Flytrap wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:03 am The bass player singer in Little River Band. Then he was last man standing and when 2 of the OG's wanted back in he said fuck you I own it all now and I'm paying scabs.

Close, it's actually guitarist Stephen Housden who owns the name. Seems like a p.o.s. to me. Perhaps the og guys need to take notes from that Guess Who guy who was able to pull all of his music and prevent it from being played live so the scab Guess Who couldn't play any of the well known hits.

I doubt they could afford it.

Neil Peart
Ian Gillan

Tommy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:05 am Always curious about the structure of the Eagles.

Originally -

Don & Glenn - Bosses
Everyone else - Paid employees

Glenn dies -

Don - Boss
Everyone else - Paid employees

Felder may have had some kind of agreement where he perceived himself as an equal partner, but I doubt he ever had any say in any business decisions. They all have said at some point they always deferred to Don & Glenn.

I would assume Travis Barker of Blink 182 and Tre Cool of Green Day are full members . Those must be some big ass cheques rolling in for a couple of replacement drummers.

mrsnikkisixx wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:30 pm

Tommy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:05 am Always curious about the structure of the Eagles.

Originally -

Don & Glenn - Bosses
Everyone else - Paid employees

You dont mean originally originally, do you? Why would Glenn and Don be the bosses at the formation of the band? Meisner had a lot more songwriting credits than Don at the beginning.

HueyRamone wrote: ↑Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:24 am

mrsnikkisixx wrote: ↑Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:30 pm

Tommy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:05 am Always curious about the structure of the Eagles.

Originally -

Don & Glenn - Bosses
Everyone else - Paid employees

You dont mean originally originally, do you? Why would Glenn and Don be the bosses at the formation of the band? Meisner had a lot more songwriting credits than Don at the beginning.

Yeah Felder wouldn't sue for something he never had before the reunion...