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What do you like better?

Aside from "Better" I found ChinDem pretty much unlistenable, VR - Contraband at least had a couple solid singles and some decent album tracks.

Chinese Democracy easily.

For me Chinese Democracy and it’s not even close. If CD is a sphere, Contraband feels like a straight line by comparison. It’s like comparing November Rain to Anything Goes or something. Different strokes.

VR 2/10
CD 8/10

I'm going with Waxl...I never liked that stupid STP druggy dude. And velvet revolver is just a rip off of roses and guns name when you think about it!

Contraband had one hit song.

Chinese Democracy had no hit songs.

Both weak efforts.

Pretty funny we have nothing to compare VR's Libertab against - despite it coming out 18 years ago.

Wild Obsession wrote: ↑Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:07 am Aside from "Better" I found ChinDem pretty much unlistenable, VR - Contraband at least had a couple solid singles and some decent album tracks.

This all day. The only people who pretend to "like" CD are the ones stupid enough to have bought it.

Chinese Democracy got me a free Dr. Pepper, as I was not and am not Slash.

Advantage Chi Dem in ranked choice voting.

Wild Obsession wrote: ↑Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:07 am Aside from "Better" I found ChinDem pretty much unlistenable, VR - Contraband at least had a couple solid singles and some decent album tracks.

This. I tried listening to CD a year or so ago and couldn't even finish it. Total dreck.

Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 01, 2025 2:58 pm

Wild Obsession wrote: ↑Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:07 am Aside from "Better" I found ChinDem pretty much unlistenable, VR - Contraband at least had a couple solid singles and some decent album tracks.

This all day. The only people who pretend to "like" CD are the ones stupid enough to have bought it.

This all day, all week.

Indy_Rob wrote: ↑Tue Jul 01, 2025 5:31 pm

Wild Obsession wrote: ↑Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:07 am Aside from "Better" I found ChinDem pretty much unlistenable, VR - Contraband at least had a couple solid singles and some decent album tracks.

This. I tried listening to CD a year or so ago and couldn't even finish it. Total dreck.

Same. I tried a couple months ago. It's just a mess now. Too much is going on in every song.
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As a genuine fan of the Post-2000 circus that was Nu-GNR, following Axl and all the leak drama on the forums for those few years, I have to say…

Contraband.

CD got neutered way early on. It could have been good once upon a time. By the time it came out in 2008 - forget it. We all know why.

Contraband isn’t perfect but it’s an honest record at least, captured in time. And you don’t fk with Slither.

I absolutely love both albums

Chinese Democracy

Prostitute is best NU GNR song ever
Slash solo or VR never did anything this close
Seeing Axl do this during Vegas shows was always spectacular- I believe he did this all 3 shows I saw at The Joint era

I saw VR -at The Wiltern and Honda Center(maybe half full) both “mid”..seeing Slash and Duff were fun