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Ultimate Sin 40th?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 5:55 am
by RaceFan3
Next year is the 40th anniversary of Ozzy's Ultimate Sin. Think there's any chance of an anniversary edition/box set?
I was hoping they'd do one anyway, but now with Ozzy's death I wonder if it would make more/less sense? Up to Sharon, probably?
A remastered version of the album
Live show from that tour
The Ultimate Ozzy video
Demos, outtakes, etc.
I'd buy it.
Re: Ultimate Sin 40th?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 6:09 am
by Bono Nettencourt
I'm sure Charon will give it its ultimate due.
Re: Ultimate Sin 40th?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:52 pm
by FreddyFender
No chance IMO.
It's been out of print for 30 years for a reason.
Re: Ultimate Sin 40th?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:52 pm
by FreddyFender
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Re: Ultimate Sin 40th?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:59 pm
by Bono Nettencourt
FreddyFender wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:52 pm
No chance IMO.
It's been out of print for 30 years for a reason.
Yep - that Jake would have to be paid.
Re: Ultimate Sin 40th?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:01 pm
by Chip Z'Hoy
Best case scenario, there's a small Ultimate Sin merch collection in the Ozzy webstore.
Seems like the Osbournes camp is cool with the Jake Lee camp but I don't think the Bill Susan thing ever went away with them.
Re: Ultimate Sin 40th?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 7:46 pm
by FreddyFender
I think it’s some mix of:
-There have been rumors for years that Phil didn’t properly credit his bandmates in Wild Life who may not have co-wrote the song, which probably meant the Osbournes had to pay them to go away.
-That issue aside, Phil wrote them a hit song and then refused to write more tunes for them without renegotiating publishing. At which point the Osbournes realized they couldn’t take advantage of him and he was fired.
I imagine letting the album go OOP is their way to get back at Soussan for some or all of the above.
Re: Ultimate Sin 40th?
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 8:03 pm
by HottKarl777
As long as Ray didn't jizz anywhere close to the studio we are golden.
Re: Ultimate Sin 40th?
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 12:44 am
by Deege
Bono Nettencourt wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:59 pm
FreddyFender wrote: ↑Sat Aug 02, 2025 3:52 pm
No chance IMO.
It's been out of print for 30 years for a reason.
Yep - that Jake would have to be paid.
No he wouldn't, he sold them his publishing after he was fired. They don't owe him a dime for that album because he willingly made that deal. Bark At The Moon, on the other hand, he was never given publishing to begin with, and got fucked for sure.
The issue at hand is with Phil Soussan's writing (or his ex-bandmates' writing) of Shot In The Dark.
Though technically it has not been out of print for 30 years, they reissued it on vinyl in 2019 and 2025 for the See You On The Other Side box sets.