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Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:11 pm**

I was there and remember it happening. Pretty wild night. Quotes from Metal Sludge and video of the incident included in the article.

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Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:03 pm**

I seem to remember that there were rumors that Johnny Solinger was on speed dial and promo photos with him were taken before everyone cooled down and sorted their hash.

(Assuming 1. My memory isn’t shit and 2. The rumors were true did those photos ever get leaked?)

(Also, fuck me im old)

Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 pm**

TheDeadBastard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:03 pm I seem to remember that there were rumors that Johnny Solinger was on speed dial and promo photos with him were taken before everyone cooled down and sorted their hash.

(Assuming 1. My memory isn’t shit and 2. The rumors were true did those photos ever get leaked?)

(Also, fuck me im old)

Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...

Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:25 pm**

Good Lord. I typed out exactly what happened. They could have at least quoted me correctly.

Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:29 pm**

daveg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 pm
TheDeadBastard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:03 pm I seem to remember that there were rumors that Johnny Solinger was on speed dial and promo photos with him were taken before everyone cooled down and sorted their hash.

(Assuming 1. My memory isn’t shit and 2. The rumors were true did those photos ever get leaked?)

(Also, fuck me im old)
I remember that. Sounds right

Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...

Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:19 pm**

daveg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 pm
TheDeadBastard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:03 pm I seem to remember that there were rumors that Johnny Solinger was on speed dial and promo photos with him were taken before everyone cooled down and sorted their hash.

(Assuming 1. My memory isn’t shit and 2. The rumors were true did those photos ever get leaked?)

(Also, fuck me im old)
Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...

"""""""""""""Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...""""""""""""""""""

True!

I was called the very next day... by... Bobby Dall.

Technically, Kendra Jade called me first, and told me they (Poison) wanted to talk to me... and I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.

The next call, I believe was from Scotty Ross, and then Bobby called me.

He gave me a set-list, and then had a Travel Agent call me, and she started asking info., like where I lived, would be flying from, etc..

There was even a "dollar amount" per show, discussed... Bobby asked, and I told him a price. I think they had like 5-6 shows left, and he thought Bret was going to not show.

Bobby also told me they were talking to Johnny Solinger as well.

$tEvil

Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:43 pm**

MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:19 pm
daveg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 pm
TheDeadBastard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:03 pm I seem to remember that there were rumors that Johnny Solinger was on speed dial and promo photos with him were taken before everyone cooled down and sorted their hash.

(Assuming 1. My memory isn’t shit and 2. The rumors were true did those photos ever get leaked?)

(Also, fuck me im old)
Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...

"""""""""""""Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...""""""""""""""""""

True!

I was called the very next day... by... Bobby Dall.

Technically, Kendra Jade called me first, and told me they (Poison) wanted to talk to me... and I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.

The next call, I believe was from Scotty Ross, and then Bobby called me.

He gave me a set-list, and then had a Travel Agent call me, and she started asking info., like where I lived, would be flying from, etc..

There was even a "dollar amount" per show, discussed... Bobby asked, and I told him a price. I think they had like 5-6 shows left, and he thought Bret was going to not show.

Bobby also told me they were talking to Johnny Solinger as well.

$tEvil

I remember a similar thing happening when CC temporarily left in 2000. They were talking to Tracii Guns and a few other guitarists to be possible fill-ins for the tour. Eventually CC came back.

I wonder if Tracii had joined if he would've played anything from Native Tongue or Crack a Smile.

Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:53 pm**

MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:19 pm
daveg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 pm
TheDeadBastard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:03 pm I seem to remember that there were rumors that Johnny Solinger was on speed dial and promo photos with him were taken before everyone cooled down and sorted their hash.

(Assuming 1. My memory isn’t shit and 2. The rumors were true did those photos ever get leaked?)

(Also, fuck me im old)
Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...

"""""""""""""Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...""""""""""""""""""

True!

I was called the very next day... by... Bobby Dall.

Technically, Kendra Jade called me first, and told me they (Poison) wanted to talk to me... and I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.

The next call, I believe was from Scotty Ross, and then Bobby called me.

He gave me a set-list, and then had a Travel Agent call me, and she started asking info., like where I lived, would be flying from, etc..

There was even a "dollar amount" per show, discussed... Bobby asked, and I told him a price. I think they had like 5-6 shows left, and he thought Bret was going to not show.

Bobby also told me they were talking to Johnny Solinger as well.

$tEvil

I am going to assume you won't share the price, but almost as interesting, how do you come up with a price for something like that?

Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2025 8:05 pm**

Bobby looked scared.

Posted: **Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:29 am**

fromanotherplace82 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:43 pm
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:19 pm
daveg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 pm

Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...

"""""""""""""Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...""""""""""""""""""

True!

I was called the very next day... by... Bobby Dall.

Technically, Kendra Jade called me first, and told me they (Poison) wanted to talk to me... and I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.

The next call, I believe was from Scotty Ross, and then Bobby called me.

He gave me a set-list, and then had a Travel Agent call me, and she started asking info., like where I lived, would be flying from, etc..

There was even a "dollar amount" per show, discussed... Bobby asked, and I told him a price. I think they had like 5-6 shows left, and he thought Bret was going to not show.

Bobby also told me they were talking to Johnny Solinger as well.

$tEvil
I remember a similar thing happening when CC temporarily left in 2000. They were talking to Tracii Guns and a few other guitarists to be possible fill-ins for the tour. Eventually CC came back.

I wonder if Tracii had joined if he would've played anything from Native Tongue or Crack a Smile.

Tracii had the gig for like two weeks. then CC came back.

Posted: **Tue Aug 26, 2025 10:10 am**

MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:19 pm
Technically, Kendra Jade called me first, and told me they (Poison) wanted to talk to me... and I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.

Why was Kendra Jade involved with that mess? Was she dating someone in the Poison camp at the time?

Posted: **Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:28 pm**

Amazing. Stevie, would they have asked you wear the wigdana?

Posted: **Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:41 pm**

Anthrax442 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 26, 2025 10:10 am
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:19 pm
Technically, Kendra Jade called me first, and told me they (Poison) wanted to talk to me... and I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.

Why was Kendra Jade involved with that mess? Was she dating someone in the Poison camp at the time?

""""""""""""Why was Kendra Jade involved with that mess? Was she dating someone in the Poison camp at the time?"""""""""""""

No, she was running pyro for the headliner in addition to driving a tractor-trailer that was hauling the P.A. and lighting rig.

Anymore questions?

$tEvil

Posted: **Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:53 pm**

Velvis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:53 pm
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:19 pm
daveg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 pm

Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...

"""""""""""""Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...""""""""""""""""""

True!

I was called the very next day... by... Bobby Dall.

Technically, Kendra Jade called me first, and told me they (Poison) wanted to talk to me... and I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.

The next call, I believe was from Scotty Ross, and then Bobby called me.

He gave me a set-list, and then had a Travel Agent call me, and she started asking info., like where I lived, would be flying from, etc..

There was even a "dollar amount" per show, discussed... Bobby asked, and I told him a price. I think they had like 5-6 shows left, and he thought Bret was going to not show.

Bobby also told me they were talking to Johnny Solinger as well.

$tEvil
I am going to assume you won't share the price, but almost as interesting, how do you come up with a price for something like that?

"""""""""""""I am going to assume you won't share the price, but almost as interesting, how do you come up with a price for something like that?""""""""""""""""

Bobby asked in so many words... "What would you want to do this?"

And I said: "$1,000.00 per show, plus travel, room, etc..." , we had a lengthy phone chat, and as I stated above, I was put in touch with a travel agent who was going to be sorting my flights.

Honestly, I was totally on the fence with it, but at the same time, I told Bobby; "If I had to, I could go on stage tonight and sing 6-7 of these songs on the spot!"

I have a file folder in a filing-cabinet somewhere with some info. related to this, a set list, etc...

I think there were 5-6 shows left after this incident, which if memory is correct took place in Atlanta, and the next dates were in like Tennessee, Arkansas, etc...

I asked Bobby outright, "What does Rikki & C.C. think? My name being brought up would surely not be favorable to Bret's liking?"

Bobby said: "They think it's aweome!" Haha! And I did kind of laugh...

In the end I also asked: "Why don't you just cancel the final shows?" and Bobby said: "Our contract says Poison! 4 guys performing as Poison."

Then he said something like if they pulled out, or cancelled, that Live Nation could hold them liable... which is why a lot of bands throw someone up there to get through the show, to fill the contract for the night.

$tEvil

Posted: **Tue Aug 26, 2025 3:31 pm**

MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:19 pm
daveg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 pm
TheDeadBastard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:03 pm I seem to remember that there were rumors that Johnny Solinger was on speed dial and promo photos with him were taken before everyone cooled down and sorted their hash.

(Assuming 1. My memory isn’t shit and 2. The rumors were true did those photos ever get leaked?)

(Also, fuck me im old)
Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...

"""""""""""""Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...""""""""""""""""""

True!

I was called the very next day... by... Bobby Dall.

Technically, Kendra Jade called me first, and told me they (Poison) wanted to talk to me... and I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.

The next call, I believe was from Scotty Ross, and then Bobby called me.

He gave me a set-list, and then had a Travel Agent call me, and she started asking info., like where I lived, would be flying from, etc..

There was even a "dollar amount" per show, discussed... Bobby asked, and I told him a price. I think they had like 5-6 shows left, and he thought Bret was going to not show.

Bobby also told me they were talking to Johnny Solinger as well.

$tEvil

Honest question: what were your thoughts/emotions when this correspondence happened?

$1000 per show for 6-7 gigs sounds VERY light.

Posted: **Tue Aug 26, 2025 6:17 pm**

ParaDime77 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 26, 2025 3:31 pm
MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:19 pm
daveg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 pm

Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...

"""""""""""""Perhaps my memory is shit as well, but I seem to remember CEO telling a story where he was on someone's speed dial after this event...""""""""""""""""""

True!

I was called the very next day... by... Bobby Dall.

Technically, Kendra Jade called me first, and told me they (Poison) wanted to talk to me... and I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.

The next call, I believe was from Scotty Ross, and then Bobby called me.

He gave me a set-list, and then had a Travel Agent call me, and she started asking info., like where I lived, would be flying from, etc..

There was even a "dollar amount" per show, discussed... Bobby asked, and I told him a price. I think they had like 5-6 shows left, and he thought Bret was going to not show.

Bobby also told me they were talking to Johnny Solinger as well.

$tEvil
Honest question: what were your thoughts/emotions when this correspondence happened?

$1000 per show for 6-7 gigs sounds VERY light.

"""""""""""""""" Honest question: what were your thoughts/emotions when this correspondence happened?"""""""""""""""

It was very out of the blue, and as I said above, I thought I was being pranked at first. But Kendra said, "No, they really want to talk to you."

She kind of explained, and then I am thinking it was Scotty Ross that called a few minutes later, he worked for Poison.

He gave me the short version and said: "Bobby Dall is going to be calling you... and my phone rang 2 minutes later."

""""""""""""""""""$1000 per show for 6-7 gigs sounds VERY light."""""""""""""""""

This was 2006, today, that same $1,000.00 is $1,600.00.

I was pretty sure nothing would come of it, but... for the 24 hours or so, I entertained it. Why not.

Another Fun Fact: In 2000 I also auditioned for Ratt. And that too was an odd scenario, but I had heard Jizzy, Tramp, Mason and Ralph from SP were also lined up.

So I figured, why not give it a shot...

I talked to Crane, and he played Warren and Bobby "Tied To The Bells" but didn't tell them who it was. They both thought the song was cool and liked my voice.

Blotzer then called me, and invited me down... which I talked about this previously as well. I did 3 songs with them and it was filmed, with management there.

It was Warren, Blotzer, Crane, and Keri Kelli on the other guitar at some studio in the Valley! I did "Lay It Down", "Walkin' The Dog", and I think "Slip Of The Lip."

Oddly, Blotzer who was very cool on the phone, was kind of a dick at the audition, while Warren was SUPER COOL! I knew Crane and Keri, so all in all it went well.

Lastly, as the Die-Hard Crue fans might recall, who are over 45-50, there was a magazine that was published after Vince was canned, and the magazine was the entire history of Motley Crue, and what the future held as they searched for a new singer.

In that issue, they also named and wrote a few snippets on each singer, that the writers/publisher felt were a possible fit. Bach, Corabi, some others, and I was also included. Regardless of whoever wrote it, or how much I was liked, or disliked... it was a pretty cool feeling knowing that a band I was initially inspired by and had risen to that level of success, that a guy from Oshkosh was even remotely considered on any level!

$tEvil

Posted: **Wed Aug 27, 2025 4:49 am**

MetalSludgeCEO wrote: ↑Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:53 pm I could go on stage tonight and sing 6-7 of these songs on the spot!"

Add the cover tunes and that is the entire Poison show

Posted: **Wed Aug 27, 2025 3:09 pm**

CEO: Did you get a copy of the audition with RATT and their management present, or is that footage owned by the band?

Posted: **Wed Aug 27, 2025 3:33 pm**

ParaDime77 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 3:09 pm CEO: Did you get a copy of the audition with RATT and their management present, or is that footage owned by the band?

""""""""""CEO: Did you get a copy of the audition with RATT and their management present, or is that footage owned by the band?""""""""""""""

No.

I didn't ask, nor inquire at any point... and I highly doubt they would have given any of us the footage!

$tEvil

Posted: **Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:53 am**

ParaDime77 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 26, 2025 3:31 pm
$1000 per show for 6-7 gigs sounds VERY light.

It would be stupid to price himself out of it. If he gets the shows, it's a great experience that could lead to more.

It's not like it was playing just for tips, he didn't sign up to tour a whole year for 150 bucks a day like the Cradle of Filth crew.

Posted: **Thu Aug 28, 2025 7:16 am**

Robert Mason's audition from the same cycle did eventually leak: https://youtu.be/GvKq88uPFOY?si=9KXl9rsPeQTz70I4

He really blew the roof off. I was surprised he didn't get the after hearing that, but I did read somewhere that it was Mason that declined over business stuff.

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