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[silent_eyes]

So who do you guys think will be Jericho's mystery partner tonight? I'm hoping for Christian because I've always preferred him as a heel and it would be cool to see "Vitamin C" reunited. But if they actually attempt to give a young guy a rub, maybe Jack Swagger or a returning Chris Masters?

And shit, Dixie Carter is hotter than most of the Knockouts in TNA!

Jericho's Twitter said his partner is evil. I guess it's Kane then?

I really hope it's not him. If they go with him, that just seems like they have no idea what else to do with the titles.

[nakedmadman]

So who do you guys think will be Jericho's mystery partner tonight? I'm hoping for Christian because I've always preferred him as a heel and it would be cool to see "Vitamin C" reunited. But if they actually attempt to give a young guy a rub, maybe Jack Swagger or a returning Chris Masters?

And shit, Dixie Carter is hotter than most of the Knockouts in TNA!

Jericho's Twitter said his partner is evil. I guess it's Kane then?

I really hope it's not him. If they go with him, that just seems like they are trying to kill the tag team division.

Fixed that for ya.

Odds are, Legacy is going to end up with the titles after Night of Champs anyway.

[ozzyrulz777]

CM Punk set would be cool.

Not really. Of what his 3 year WWE career? You can get MUCH better CM Punk DVDs from Ring Of Honor. Check these out. They are cheap and have a ton of great matches on them: Plus ROH is having a buy 2 get one free sale on DVDs. Your welcome Ozzy, you better get one!
http://www.rohwrestling.com/shoponline. ... 161&id=365
Best of CM Punk- Better Than You (DVD)
Item# BO004DVD
Description:
1. CM Punk-Raven confrontation
2. CM Punk vs. Raven...Expect the Unexpected 3/15/03
3. CM Punk vs, BJ Whitmer...Epic Encounter 4/12/03
4. CM Punk vs. Homicide...Retribution 4/26/03
5. CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. Raven & BJ Whitmer...Night of the Grudges 6/14/03
6. CM Punk vs. Raven (Dog Collar Match)...Death Before Dishonor 7/19/03
7. CM Punk vs. Samoa Joe (Challenge Match)...Bitter Friends, Stiffer Enemies 8/16/03
8. CM Punk vs. AJ Styles...Tradition Continues 10/16/03
*Also contains several classic CM Punk promos
SALE! $20.00

Best of CM Punk Vol. 2- Straightedge DVD
Item# BO019DVD
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Description:
1. CM Punk vs. Steve Corino...Empire State Showdown 10/25/03
2. CM Punk vs. Raven (Cage Match)...The Conclusion
3. CM Punk vs. Doug Williams...Second Anniversary Show 2/14/04
4. CM Punk vs. AJ Styles (ROH Pure Wrestling Title Match- Guest Referee: Ricky Steamboat)...At Our Best 3/13/04
5. CM Punk vs. Bryan Danielson...ROH Reborn Stage 1 4/23/04
6. Closing moments of Punk & Cabana vs. Briscoes from Round Robin Challenge III with Punk-Steamboat altercation after the match
7. CM Punk-Ricky Steamboat Confrontation...Generation Next 5/22/04
8. CM Punk vs. Hydro (Jay Lethal)...Survival of the Fittest 6/24/04
9. CM Punk-Ricky Steamboat Final Confrontation...ROH Reborn Completion 7/17/04
10. CM Punk vs. Austin Aries (joined in progress)...Glory By Honor III 9/11/03

Features:
Region 0 DVD. Will play anywhere in the world.
SALE! $20.00

Best of CM Punk Vol. 3- The Legacy Continues (DVD)
Item# BO028DVD
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Description:
1. CM Punk vs. Samoa Joe...World Title Classic 6/12/04 (final 15 minutes)
2. CM Punk vs. Samoa Joe...Joe vs. Punk II 10/16/04 (final 15 minutes)
3. CM Punk & Ace Steel vs. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong (No DQ Match)...Weekend of Thunder Night 2 11/6/04
4. CM Punk vs. Samoa Joe...All Star Extravaganza II 12/4/04
5. CM Punk vs. Alex Shelley...Third Anniversary Celebration Pt. 2- Dayton, OH 2/25/05
6. CM Punk vs. Jimmy Rave...Third Anniversary Celebration Pt. 3- Chicago Ridge, IL 2/26/05
7. CM Punk vs. Jimmy Rave (Dog Collar Match)...Manhattan Mayhem 5/7/05
8. CM Punk vs. Roderick Strong...The Future Is Now 6/12/05
9. CM Punk vs. Jimmy Rave (Steel Cage Grudge Match)...Nowhere To Run 5/14/05

Features:
Region 0 DVD. Will play anywhere in the world.
SALE! $20.00

I will have to check those out.

[Angry Jew]

2006 WWE Salaries:
Check this shit out:
Bill Jackson - source: corporate.wwe.com/ official site for WWE's financial and business matters.

I think these are 2005 cause didn't Christian leave in 05? or was it 06? Also,Matt Was fired in 05, I think.
Ashley Massaro: $131,000
- Batista: $813,000 (First class flight tickets paid for every week)
- Big Show: $1,000,000 (Base salary)
- Bob Holly: $217,000
- Booker T: $375,000
- Candice Michelle: $64,000
- Carlito: $319,000
- Chavo Guerrero: $206,000
- Chris Benoit: $488,000 (First class flight tickets paid for every week)
- Chris Masters: $253,000
- Christian - $396,000
- Danny Basham: $130,000
- Doug Basham: $126,000
- Eddie Guerrero: $372,000
- Edge: $704,000
- Eugene: $189,000
- Funaki: $124,000
- Gene Snitsky: $292,000
- Gregory Helms: $277,000
- John Cena: $1,743,000 (First class flight tickets, hotel accommodations, and ground transportation paid for every week)
- John Layfield: $786,000 (Five star hotel accommodations paid for every week)
- Jerry Lawler: $204,000 (First class flight tickets, hotel accommodations, and ground transportation paid for every week)
- Jillian Hall: $52,000
- Joey Mercury: $134,000
- Johnny Nitro: $143,000
- Jonathan Coachman: $175,000
- Kane: $ 851,000 (First class flight tickets paid for every week)
- Ken Kennedy: $133,000
- Kid Kash: $62,000
- Kurt Angle: $1,023,000 (First class flight tickets paid for every week)
- Lance Cade: $118,000
- Lilian Garcia: $90,000
- Lita: $286,000 (Mostly downside paid due to lack of wrestling)
- Maria: $41,000
- Mark Henry: $300,000 (Base pay)
- Matt Hardy: $322,000 (Missed over $70,000 of pay due to firing)
- Matt Striker: $43,000
- Melina: $155,000
- Mickie James: $72,000
- Nunzio: $186,000
- Orlando Jordan: $145,000
- Paul London: $177,000
- Psicosis: $122,000
- Randy Orton: $711,000 (First class flight tickets paid for every week)
- Rene Dupree: $289,000
- Rey Mysterio: $414,000
- Ric Flair: $508,000 (First class flight tickets paid for every week)
- Rob Conway: $186,000
- Rob Van Dam: $220,000 (Only received downside and royalties due to injury)
- Rosey: $105,000
- Shawn Michaels: $1,045,000 (First class flight tickets, hotel accommodations, and ground transportation paid for every week)
- Shelton Benjamin: $366,000
- Simon Dean: $132,000
- Stacy Keibler: $178,000 (Only downside paid during absence)
- Steven Richards: $94,000
- Torrie Wilson: $260,000
- Trevor Murdoch: $48,000
- Triple H: $2,013,000 (Allowed the personal use of company jet (10) times per year. First class flight tickets, hotel accommodations, and ground transportation paid for every week)
- Trish Stratus: $618,000 (Receives 20% of all Trish Stratus merchandise sold)
- Tyson Tomko: $127,000
- Undertaker: $1,811,000 (First class flight tickets, hotel accommodations, and ground transportation paid for every week)
- Val Venis: $210,000
- Victoria: $275,000
- Viscera: $130,000
- William Regal: $225,000

[Sinderella]

^ WTF? HHH gets the company jet and 2mil? Damn I guess fucking the Billion Dollar Princess was worth it!

[LAglamrocker]

Vince should use that 80's hair band dude idea and call him Sinderella

[BD888]

2006 WWE Salaries:
Check this shit out:
Bill Jackson - source: corporate.wwe.com/ official site for WWE's financial and business matters.

I think these are 2005 cause didn't Christian leave in 05? or was it 06? Also,Matt Was fired in 05, I think.
Ashley Massaro: $131,000


- Gene Snitsky: $292,000
- Joey Mercury: $134,000
- Johnny Nitro: $143,000
- Ken Kennedy: $133,000
- Lance Cade: $118,000
- Melina: $155,000
- Nunzio: $186,000
- Orlando Jordan: $145,000
- Paul London: $177,000
- Psicosis: $122,000
- Rene Dupree: $289,000
- Rob Conway: $186,000
- Rosey: $105,000
- Shelton Benjamin: $366,000
- Simon Dean: $132,000
- Torrie Wilson: $260,000
- Trish Stratus: $618,000 (Receives 20% of all Trish Stratus merchandise sold)
- Tyson Tomko: $127,000
- Val Venis: $210,000
- Victoria: $275,000
- Viscera: $130,000

These guy are getting paid more that I would have guessed.

[Kamikaze_Russo]

Hell... I'd pay the 41k for Maria.

[ozzyrulz777]

Nobody watched the WWE ppv last night I am guessing?

[ozzyrulz777]

Oh and fuck Jeff Hardy's whiny ass. That is the only reason he won that title last night.

[Subhuman Yeti]

Nobody watched the WWE ppv last night I am guessing?

Pay Vince money for what he books, hypes and delivers?

Nope.

[Monty610]

Leave it to WWE to fuck up the great slow burn they had going with Punk by having him drop the title to Hardy. Leaving the belt on Punk would have been a heat magnet...

[Garbageman]

Nobody watched the WWE ppv last night I am guessing?

Pay Vince money for what he books, hypes and delivers?

Nope.

Well I'd bet far more than 7,000 people saw it!

[ozzyrulz777]

Leave it to WWE to fuck up the great slow burn they had going with Punk by having him drop the title to Hardy. Leaving the belt on Punk would have been a heat magnet...

Yep!

[Angry Jew]

Oh and fuck Jeff Hardy's whiny ass. That is the only reason he won that title last night.

No, he won the title for 2 reasons:
1)He is the most over wrestler in WWE today. Whereas Cena gets boos,Hardy is probably the only guy who is loved by nearly all fans. WWE sells a shit ton of Jeff Hardy merch.
2)The WWE is low on big name talent. HBK (for now) ,Taker and Edge are all out. WWE really wants Jeff to stay and they are going to do what they can to get him to sign even a short term extension.

[Subhuman Yeti]

Nobody watched the WWE ppv last night I am guessing?

Pay Vince money for what he books, hypes and delivers?

Nope.

Well I'd bet far more than 7,000 people saw it!

...and paid for it.

Not me.


A friend downs PPVs a few days after they air and I don't watch em for at least a couple of weeks later. The angles and main events from weeks back at PPVs way too often still match up with the weekly tv, year after after now.
Even after traditional fued ending PPVs. Same shit, new week.

No matter how many people are watching and/or paying for the WWE .. and even with 'less suck' on Smack, the entire WWE product is still really not very entertaining, or even 1/4 as good as the booking used to be or should be... and not just Attitude era stuff. Before, during and after.

If Vince was booking 1/2 as good as ECW HARCORE TV was, I'd be giving Vince several hundred dollars a year, for PPV and live shows.

But millions pay him for shit weaker than any kid could write in his free time.

[nakedmadman]

yeah, but what's the televised alternitive, Total Non-stop Angle? No thanks. The story lines are so weak in TNA they make the E's bookers and writers look like Rhodes scolars.

[nakedmadman]

On a side note, I was driving home, and on a rare urge was listening to the radio. I happened to catch an advert for Sierra Mist/w a splash of grapefruit, and I'd swear to you that Booker T was doing the voice of the Grapefruit. Can anyone comfirm this?

[silent_eyes]

I don't think that there's anything that could happen in the wrestling world to make me want to waste $40 on a WWE PPV these days. I think the last one I bought personally was the second ECW One Night Stand PPV in '06. Last one I actually watched was December to Dismember that same year. Probably the worst thing I've ever witnessed. Just glad I didn't spend money on that one.

As for TNA, my cousin orders one of their PPVs every now and then so I get to catch them ever so often.

[Sabu]

Oh and fuck Jeff Hardy's whiny ass. That is the only reason he won that title last night.

No, he won the title for 2 reasons:
1)He is the most over wrestler in WWE today. Whereas Cena gets boos,Hardy is probably the only guy who is loved by nearly all fans. WWE sells a shit ton of Jeff Hardy merch.
2)The WWE is low on big name talent. HBK (for now) ,Taker and Edge are all out. WWE really wants Jeff to stay and they are going to do what they can to get him to sign even a short term extension.

That's basically it... Still though, I think they could have really ran with Punk as the heel champ. He's the most interesting character they have had in a VERY long time. Even if he is doing what is basically a PG version of his ROH heel character, it's still something that WWE hasn't really had before.

It works even better now that WWE is clearly going into a family friendly direction after years of getting buried for targeting an "inappropriate" product and characters to kids. If you read deep (too deep?) into it, it's like the WWE is saying, "We're giving you a safe product, and you and your kids are still marking for the junkie, yet booing clean cut heels like Jericho and Punk."

I think they could have had a field day with Punk ripping the fans and the media in the mainstream. Still, he's not going anywhere... and they have the opportunity to do something really big with him. Hopefully the ball isn't dropped, but I think they did take a legit step backwards by having him drop the strap.

[silent_eyes]

Oh and fuck Jeff Hardy's whiny ass. That is the only reason he won that title last night.

No, he won the title for 2 reasons:
1)He is the most over wrestler in WWE today. Whereas Cena gets boos,Hardy is probably the only guy who is loved by nearly all fans. WWE sells a shit ton of Jeff Hardy merch.
2)The WWE is low on big name talent. HBK (for now) ,Taker and Edge are all out. WWE really wants Jeff to stay and they are going to do what they can to get him to sign even a short term extension.

That's basically it... Still though, I think they could have really ran with Punk as the heel champ. He's the most interesting character they have had in a VERY long time. Even if he is doing what is basically a PG version of his ROH heel character, it's still something that WWE hasn't really had before.

It works even better now that WWE is clearly going into a family friendly direction after years of getting buried for targeting an "inappropriate" product and characters to kids. If you read deep (too deep?) into it, it's like the WWE is saying, "We're giving you a safe product, and you and your kids are still marking for the junkie, yet booing clean cut heels like Jericho and Punk."

I think they could have had a field day with Punk ripping the fans and the media in the mainstream. Still, he's not going anywhere... and they have the opportunity to do something really big with him. Hopefully the ball isn't dropped, but I think they did take a legit step backwards by having him drop the strap.

It seems like they believe that quickly hotshotting the title onto someone is the best answer these days and it's just not so. That title has went from Edge to Cena then back to Edge to Hardy to CM Punk and back to Hardy just since Feb.

[LAglamrocker]

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... b7aacac5d1

HHH Birthday Bash after Raw...these are always the cool things after Raw


at the end Big Show falls and Vince kicks him,ha ha

[Angry Jew]

Anyone else see HBK coming back to help Trips in his match against Cody/Ted during RAW next week ,setting up DX vs.Priceless at SummerSlam?

[tacocowboy]

Anyone else see HBK coming back to help Trips in his match against Cody/Ted during RAW next week ,setting up DX vs.Priceless ar SummerSlam?

They'll tease it for a week or two like last time they got back together. Remember Triple H's promo "That's funny Vince, because I've got two words for ya" crowd pops, "I'm sorry", pop ends.

[Sabu]

Anyone else see HBK coming back to help Trips in his match against Cody/Ted during RAW next week ,setting up DX vs.Priceless ar SummerSlam?

He's on the SummerSlam posters that are at the 7-11's as part of them sponsoring the show. So unless something changes, I think he'll be there. Wouldn't surprise me if Ari Gold makes the announcement this Monday...

[LAglamrocker]

Its funny DX did everything to destroy NWO and Nitro, now DX is the WWE NWO, way past old dudes that should retire and beat up all the other young talent

[Angry Jew]

Its funny DX did everything to destroy NWO and Nitro, now DX is the WWE NWO, way past old dudes that should retire and beat up all the other young talent

Do you watch wrestling? Shawn Michaels is STILL one of the best workers today. He has the all around ability to have a great match with a broom and can still cut a great promo. I am kinda bored with HHH but HBK is still an amazing talent.

I think that Priceless will get the rub at some point over DX but not at Summerslam which if it happens would be HBK's 1st match since WM26.

[Drunken_Little_Elf]

Its funny DX did everything to destroy NWO and Nitro, now DX is the WWE NWO, way past old dudes that should retire and beat up all the other young talent

I think that Priceless will get the rub at some point over DX but not at Summerslam which if it happens would be HBK's 1st match since WM26.

For the sake of discussion, when is the last time DX put anybody over that was young or wasn't already extremely over to begin with? Granted they both job more than they used to, but victories over them really don't do anything for Jericho, Taker, Orton or Cena at this point.

I'm not saying that they should have just been jobbed out completely to Miz and Morrison last year, but they probably could have gotten a decent feud with both teams trading off wins, rather than the one match they had. Even if they had to book DX to go over, they still could have given the two young guys a win or two, so even though they end up losing the feud, they could still look somewhat credible coming out of it.

So while DX always had more talent than the NWO, when it comes to business, in most cases, I'm not seeing much of a difference.

[Sabu]

Its funny DX did everything to destroy NWO and Nitro, now DX is the WWE NWO, way past old dudes that should retire and beat up all the other young talent

I think that Priceless will get the rub at some point over DX but not at Summerslam which if it happens would be HBK's 1st match since WM26.

For the sake of discussion, when is the last time DX put anybody over that was young or wasn't already extremely over to begin with? Granted they both job more than they used to, but victories over them really don't do anything for Jericho, Taker, Orton or Cena at this point.

I'm not saying that they should have just been jobbed out completely to Miz and Morrison last year, but they probably could have gotten a decent feud with both teams trading off wins, rather than the one match they had. Even if they had to book DX to go over, they still could have given the two young guys a win or two, so even though they end up losing the feud, they could still look somewhat credible coming out of it.

So while DX always had more talent than the NWO, when it comes to business, in most cases, I'm not seeing much of a difference.

To me... the knock against The H and Michaels is very similar. They are both great workers in their own right... but their biggest weakness is they just don't seem to be able to make guys look good while still going over. The H especially. Who was the last guy that jobbed to him, but got something out of it? Same thing with Michaels. I remember after Michaels jobbed to Hogan, the next three weeks on RAW he went over the three most over young guys they had on the roster at the time: Orton, Carlito, and Benjamin. He made NONE of them look good in the process. Carlito and Benjamin specifically looked like jobbers.

Now look at the match from about a month ago between The Colons and Edge/Jericho. Edge & Jericho went over, but they made the Colons (especially Primo) look a million bucks.

To me, that's the biggest weakness of Shawn & The H. Maybe not Shawn so much, but still... GREAT workers can go over and still make their opponents look good the majority of the time. The two of them don't.

[Angry Jew]

ROH or TNA for Spanky?
I liked him too.
From WWE.com:
World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Raw Superstar Brian Kendrick as of today, July 30, 2009. WWE wishes Brian the best in all future endeavors.