Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[Machado]

Joe Mauer tipping pitches?

Check this video out, just further proof of the man's awesomeness.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/fil ... s_pitches/

very interesting. its part of the game.
my ? is, did verlander "plunk" mauer or some other twin during
this game for stealing signs?

fair is far
if a player on 2nd is stealing signs, the pitcher does have a legit excuse to "plunk" him or any other player during the same game.

[bighairdiscs]

Joe Mauer tipping pitches?

Check this video out, just further proof of the man's awesomeness.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/fil ... s_pitches/

That was pretty awesome indeed.......

[killeverything]

Joe Mauer tipping pitches?

Check this video out, just further proof of the man's awesomeness.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/fil ... s_pitches/

very interesting. its part of the game.
my ? is, did verlander "plunk" mauer or some other twin during
this game for stealing signs?

fair is far
if a player on 2nd is stealing signs, the pitcher does have a legit excuse to "plunk" him or any other player during the same game.

The pitcher also has a legitimate excuse to plunk a batter if they do the Manny-stare, after hitting a HR off him. That of course is left up to the ump, and potential suspension, etc.

If pitcher's don't want players on second stealing signs, change your signals every pitch. It's been happening throughout baseball history. Mauer didn't invent this.

It was pretty fucking cool to see though. And whoever made that video is awesome at noticing that.

[Machado]

Kill-

verlander can top 99+ with his fastball.
takes a lot of balls to steal his signs, knowing
how hard he can throw.

of course mauer did not invent this.
but can he be more obvious?

never does a player need to adjust his helmet while taking
a lead off 2nd base

[killeverything]

Kill-

verlander can top 99+ with his fastball.
takes a lot of balls to steal his signs, knowing
how hard he can throw.

of course mauer did not invent this.
but can he be more obvious?

never does a player need to adjust his helmet while taking
a lead off 2nd base

I'm still under the impression that Detroit shoulda hid it better. If you have a guy on second, you have to change your signs every pitch. Especially if you're calling off-speed/breaking pitches, not to mention that the guy on second is a catcher.

Now the pitcher can retaliate I guess, but really there's no one to blame but himself. Plus Verlander doesn't really have a reputation as a head-hunter.

[tin00can]

That was pretty effing cool!

[killeverything]

I also found this in response to it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4522901

The video circulated through the Minnesota clubhouse before Thursday afternoon's game at Comerica Park. Although Kubel characterized the video as "funny," Morneau took offense at the notion that Mauer was stealing signs. The Twins say that Mauer habitually fiddles with his helmet regardless of whether he's standing on first, second or third base.

Although it's common practice for baserunners to try to steal signs from second base to help a hitter be aware of the type of ensuing pitch or location, it's generally done subtly for fear of retribution. Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said Mauer's helmet-touching display was so obvious that it would have ensured one of his teammates being drilled by a fastball in response.

"If you're stealing signs and you're using your hands on your helmet, I guarantee you, somebody would get killed," Gardenhire said. "That's not the way you steal signs."

Take that how you will.

[Machado]

I also found this in response to it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4522901

The video circulated through the Minnesota clubhouse before Thursday afternoon's game at Comerica Park. Although Kubel characterized the video as "funny," Morneau took offense at the notion that Mauer was stealing signs. The Twins say that Mauer habitually fiddles with his helmet regardless of whether he's standing on first, second or third base.

Although it's common practice for baserunners to try to steal signs from second base to help a hitter be aware of the type of ensuing pitch or location, it's generally done subtly for fear of retribution. Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said Mauer's helmet-touching display was so obvious that it would have ensured one of his teammates being drilled by a fastball in response.

"If you're stealing signs and you're using your hands on your helmet, I guarantee you, somebody would get killed," Gardenhire said. "That's not the way you steal signs."

Take that how you will.

the twins coach said it best.
my thinking exactly.

[Machado]

http://tampabay.com/blogs/rays/content/ ... ady-retire

[killeverything]

http://tampabay.com/blogs/rays/content/ ... ady-retire

Baldelli has always come off as a classy guy, so I'm happy he gets to go back to Rays organization.

Unfortunatley his playing days are done.

[Machado]

did i read this correct? he's only 28

his body is telling him that he's 48.

[killeverything]

Here is the ST schedule on MLBN.

March 2, 1:00 p.m.* - Atlanta Braves @ New York Mets
March 3, 1:00 p.m.* - Pittsburgh Pirates @ New York Yankees
March 4, 1:00 p.m.* - St. Louis Cardinals @ New York Mets
March 4, 7:00 p.m. - New York Yankees @ Philadelphia Phillies
March 4, 11:00 p.m. - Chicago White Sox @ Anaheim Angels
March 5, 1:00 p.m.* - Tampa Bay Rays @ New York Yankees
March 5, 7:00 p.m. - Cleveland Indians @ Cincinnati Reds
March 6, 1:00 p.m.* - Toronto Blue Jays @ New York Yankees
March 6, 7:00 p.m. - Chicago White Sox @ Los Angeles Dodgers
March 7, 1:00 p.m.* - Boston Red Sox @ Baltimore Orioles
March 7, 7:00 p.m. - Oakland Athletics @ Anaheim Angels

March 8, 1:00 p.m.* - Philadelphia Phillies @ New York Yankees
March 8, 7:00 p.m. - Seattle Mariners @ Milwaukee Brewers
March 9, 1:00 p.m.* - Houston Astros @ New York Mets
March 9, 7:00 p.m.* - Philadelphia Phillies @ Atlanta Braves
March 9, 11:00 p.m. - Colorado Rockies @ Los Angeles Dodgers
March 10, 3:00 p.m.* - Arizona Diamondbacks @ Los Angeles Dodgers
March 10, 7:00 p.m.* - Baltimore Orioles @ Pittsburgh Pirates
March 11, 1:00 p.m.* - Boston Red Sox @ New York Mets
March 11, 7:00 p.m.* - Atlanta Braves @ New York Yankees

March 12, 1:00 p.m.* - New York Yankees @ Washington Nationals
March 12, 7:00 p.m. - Anaheim Angels @ Cleveland Indians
March 13, 1:00 p.m.* - Minnesota Twins at Philadelphia Phillies
March 13, 7:00 p.m. - Pittsburgh Pirates @ Boston Red Sox
March 14, 1:00 p.m.* - Boston Red Sox @ Minnesota Twins
March 14, 5:00 p.m. - Cleveland Indians @ San Diego Padres
March 14, 9:00 p.m. - New York Yankees @ Pittsburgh Pirates
March 15, 1:00 p.m.* - Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers
March 15, 5:00 p.m. - Cleveland Indians @ Milwaukee Brewers
March 15, 10:00 p.m.* - Kansas City Royals @ Chicago White Sox
March 16, 1:00 p.m.* - Florida Marlins @ Atlanta Braves

March 16, 5:00 p.m. - San Francisco Giants @ Cleveland Indians
March 16, 10:00 p.m. - Detroit Tigers @ Philadelphia Phillies
March 17, 1:00 p.m.* - Atlanta Braves @ Florida Marlins
March 17, 5:00 p.m. - Chicago White Sox @ Los Angeles Dodgers
March 17, 10:00 p.m.* - Texas Rangers @ Seattle Mariners
March 18, 1:00 p.m.* - Houston Astros @ Detroit Tigers
March 18, 7:00 p.m.* - Tampa Bay Rays @ New York Yankees
March 18, 11:00 p.m. - Milwaukee Brewers @ Texas Rangers

March 19, 1:00 p.m.* - St. Louis Cardinals @ Florida Marlins
March 19, 7:00 p.m.* - New York Yankees @ Tampa Bay Rays
March 19, 11:00 p.m. - Chicago Cubs @ Chicago White Sox
March 20, 1:00 p.m.* - Philadelphia Phillies @ Detroit Tigers
March 20, 5:00 p.m. - Cincinnati Reds @ San Francisco Giants
March 20, 10:00 p.m. - Arizona Diamondbacks @ Seattle Mariners
March 21, 1:00 p.m.* - Baltimore Orioles @ Philadelphia Phillies
March 21, 5:00 p.m. - Texas Rangers @ San Diego Padres
March 21, 10:00 p.m. - Colorado Rockies @ Kansas City Royals
March 22, 4:00 p.m.* - Colorado Rockies @ Cincinnati Reds
March 22, 9:00 p.m. - Cleveland Indians @ Chicago Cubs

March 23, 4:00 p.m.* - Chicago Cubs @ Kansas City Royals
March 23, 9:00 p.m. - Boston Red Sox @ Minnesota Twins
March 24, 4:00 p.m.* - Arizona Diamondbacks @ Chicago White Sox
March 24, 10:00 p.m.* - Seattle Mariners @ San Diego Padres
March 25, 4:00 p.m.* - Texas Rangers @ Anaheim Angels
March 25, 10:00 p.m.* - Oakland Athletics @ San Francisco Giants
March 26, 4:00 p.m.* - Oakland Athletics @ Chicago Cubs
March 26, 9:00 p.m. - Kansas City Royals @ Los Angeles Dodgers
March 27, 1:00 p.m.* - Washington Nationals @ New York Mets
March 27, 5:00 p.m. - San Francisco Giants @ Anaheim Angels
March 27, 10:00 p.m. - Texas Rangers @ Milwaukee Brewers

March 28, 1:00 p.m.* - Minnesota Twins @ Boston Red Sox
March 28, 5:00 p.m. - Cleveland Indians @ Anaheim Angels
March 28, 9:00 p.m. - Chicago Cubs @ Seattle Mariners
March 29, 7:00 p.m.* - Tampa Bay Rays @ Boston Red Sox
March 29, 11:00 p.m. - Arizona Diamondbacks @ San Diego Padres
March 30, 4:00 p.m.* - Los Angeles Dodgers @ Colorado Rockies
March 30, 9:00 p.m. - St. Louis Cardinals @ New York Mets
March 31, 4:00 p.m.* - Arizona Diamondbacks @ Colorado Rockies
March 31, 9:00 p.m. - Houston Astros @ Atlanta Braves

April 1, 4:00 p.m.* - Colorado Rockies @ Chicago Cubs
April 1, 10:00 p.m.* - Oakland Athletics @ San Francisco Giants
April 2, 6:00 p.m.* - St. Louis Cardinals @ Minnesota Twins
April 2, 10:00 p.m.* - Oakland Athletics @ San Francisco Giants
April 3, 2:00 p.m.* - Toronto Blue Jays @ Houston Astros
April 3, 6:00 p.m. - Boston Red Sox @ Washington Nationals
April 3, 10:00 p.m. - Anaheim Angels @ Los Angeles Dodgers
April 4, 3:00 p.m.* - Seattle Mariners @ San Francisco Giants

That's a lot of games for all of us.

Word.

http://www.fangsbites.com/2010/02/mlb-n ... ining.html

[tin00can]

Damn, I'm away from home for the next few weeks and I don't have MLBN in my room. Sucks!

And hey, some stuff about A-Rod (and a cheap plug of my blog):
http://tin00can.wordpress.com/2010/03/0 ... rthy-post/

[killeverything]

Interesting.

The Mariners are adopting a new workout plan, mandatory for minor leaguers, optional for ML players. Griffey, for one, is opting out. They removed almost all weights and machines, just have a bunch of compressed-air resistance systems built into the wall. The new plan is supposed to focus on explosiveness and baseball activities.

The team now has players doing specific workouts designed to increase lower body strength and make that translate into an ability to hit a baseball and react more explosively to balls hit in their direction. This is pretty radical stuff the Mariners are trying. No other team in baseball is doing this. The Mariners have exclusivity to Elliot's training regimen for the next three years.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/m ... aulin.html

Well, what can be said about that? If you think about it, it makes sense I suppose. You could also see why older HOF players wouldn't want to change their life-long routine.

I'm curious what kind of impact this could have on the prospects in their farm, when they implement it throughout the organization. Tacoma ( Seattle's AAA ) is pretty tough. They won the Division and they went to the PCL Championship, and lost to Sacramento ( Oakland's AAA ) in the first series. Maybe he's on to something with training and conditioning. It just seems like "this can't be the first anyone has thought of this" to me.

What a hell of a job Jack Z. is doing. If a healthy Seattle makes the Playoffs a 1-3 of King Felix, Lee and Bedard is fucking frightening. With Texas continuing to improve and the Angels, supposably taking a step back. The West could be more interesting than the East and Central this year.

[Machado]

Not this this matters, but interesting to learn that the Yankees won their 1st ST game in 2010 on a walk-off homer in the bottom of the 9th

[killeverything]

Not this this matters, but interesting to learn that the Yankees won their 1st ST game in 2010 on a walk-off homer in the bottom of the 9th

Nope it doesn't. Especially when your competition are ST-invites, and University teams.




The Mighty Red Sox just beat Northeastern 15-0. It's a college......

[SkyDog112046]

The Mighty Red Sox just beat Northeastern 15-0. It's a college......

And if they can figure out a way to schedule 18 games each vs Northeastern and BC once the season starts then they might actually score some runs.

[Facedown]

The Mighty Red Sox just beat Northeastern 15-0. It's a college......

Let's not forget, it was a split squad sweep. They beat BC 6-1.

[Facedown]

Dodgers sign Garret Anderson to minor league deal.

[Machado]

milton bradley places the blame on chicago, not himself

Two years ago, I played, and I was good. I go to Chicago, not good. I've been good my whole career. So, obviously, it was something with Chicago, not me.


http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/n ... id=4965307

[JakeYonkel]

Should have said "I'm a fucking asshole who's burnt every bridge in every city I've played in. So obviously it's me, not them."

[Facedown]

Milton Bradley to Mariners.

[Machado]

MLB Network so far has done
a marvelous job airing so many ST games in 2010.

I hope this is a sign of things to come
during the regular season.

[killeverything]

Joe Nathan has a tore UCL.

Just got out of the Twins clubhouse, where Joe Nathan, Ron Gardenhire and team trainers revealed that Nathan has a torn UCL. They're not certain if it's a full tear or a partial tear -- Gardenhire called it "significant" -- and Gardenhire says it's the sort of thing you can't tell until you get in and do surgery.

Will they do surgery? Right now, they're taking a wait and see approach. The plan is to give Nathan's arm 2-3 weeks to see if the pain dies down. If so, and if he can pitch with it, he'll do what he can to avoid surgery and try to pitch through the pain. Gardenhire says it's totally Nathan's decision.

Wow that sucks for them. Who's gonna close now? Rauch ( who rotoworld is speculating, because he's pitched the 9th )? Neshek ( is he healthy )? Guerrier?

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/ ... l.html.php

[TawnyVonJagger]

Mr. TVJ is taking his Red Sox buddy with him to the game vs. the Fightin' Fishies today. Game is sold out. As usual, I get shafted on this game.
Wonder what kind of reception Hermida will get?

[SkyDog112046]

Joe Nathan has a tore UCL.

Just got out of the Twins clubhouse, where Joe Nathan, Ron Gardenhire and team trainers revealed that Nathan has a torn UCL. They're not certain if it's a full tear or a partial tear -- Gardenhire called it "significant" -- and Gardenhire says it's the sort of thing you can't tell until you get in and do surgery.

Will they do surgery? Right now, they're taking a wait and see approach. The plan is to give Nathan's arm 2-3 weeks to see if the pain dies down. If so, and if he can pitch with it, he'll do what he can to avoid surgery and try to pitch through the pain. Gardenhire says it's totally Nathan's decision.

Wow that sucks for them. Who's gonna close now? Rauch ( who rotoworld is speculating, because he's pitched the 9th )? Neshek ( is he healthy )? Guerrier?

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/ ... l.html.php

Bard for Mauer, straight up. Right now!

[JakeYonkel]

Joe Nathan has a tore UCL.

Just got out of the Twins clubhouse, where Joe Nathan, Ron Gardenhire and team trainers revealed that Nathan has a torn UCL. They're not certain if it's a full tear or a partial tear -- Gardenhire called it "significant" -- and Gardenhire says it's the sort of thing you can't tell until you get in and do surgery.

Will they do surgery? Right now, they're taking a wait and see approach. The plan is to give Nathan's arm 2-3 weeks to see if the pain dies down. If so, and if he can pitch with it, he'll do what he can to avoid surgery and try to pitch through the pain. Gardenhire says it's totally Nathan's decision.

Wow that sucks for them. Who's gonna close now? Rauch ( who rotoworld is speculating, because he's pitched the 9th )? Neshek ( is he healthy )? Guerrier?

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/ ... l.html.php

You know, I really questioned the fact that they were willing to extend Nathan but not Torii Hunter a few years ago, since it really had to be one or the other.

I should be an executive!

[killeverything]

Joe Nathan has a tore UCL.

Just got out of the Twins clubhouse, where Joe Nathan, Ron Gardenhire and team trainers revealed that Nathan has a torn UCL. They're not certain if it's a full tear or a partial tear -- Gardenhire called it "significant" -- and Gardenhire says it's the sort of thing you can't tell until you get in and do surgery.

Will they do surgery? Right now, they're taking a wait and see approach. The plan is to give Nathan's arm 2-3 weeks to see if the pain dies down. If so, and if he can pitch with it, he'll do what he can to avoid surgery and try to pitch through the pain. Gardenhire says it's totally Nathan's decision.

Wow that sucks for them. Who's gonna close now? Rauch ( who rotoworld is speculating, because he's pitched the 9th )? Neshek ( is he healthy )? Guerrier?

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/ ... l.html.php

You know, I really questioned the fact that they were willing to extend Nathan but not Torii Hunter a few years ago, since it really had to be one or the other.

I should be an executive!

Me too. The problem is though, Carl Pohad was the richest man in Minnesota. He could've kept all of them.

Long term contracts for pitchers is usually a bad idea. Schilling while he spoke highly of John Lackey, was really questioning giving him a five year deal. OTOH he's pretty vocal about why you re-sign Beckett now. So take that what it's worth......aside from the whole "he's a moron" thing.

Me personally I woulda signed Nathan over Hunter too. Finding a dominant closer is tougher than a dominant OF. I haven't even won a Fantasy league yet, so what the fuck do I know?

[Facedown]

Nomaaah signs with and then retires as a Boston Red Sox.

[killeverything]

Nomaaah signs with and then retires as a Boston Red Sox.

Yeah, I just read that. It's a nice thing to do for the player. Lots of teams have done it. He's going to be a commentator on ESPN now.

At least the bitterness between the two can subside. His standing O in Fenway was one of my favorite memories of '09. It was nice. I also remember when he stayed on the bench pouting and Jeter dove into the stands.....that was nice too.

I remember when he was the link. Williams, Yaz........Nomah. And I thought for sure we'd see "5" on the wall someday. Considering they gave his number to Baldelli last season, something they haven't done for Pedro I might add. We don't have to worry about that happening.