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FullDJacket wrote:Dos Santos impressed me and disappointed me. He looked good but if he can't knock out Roy Nelson how is going to knock out Lesnar?

Silva vs Sonnen was a great fight but it was full of pussy soft punches.

I wanted to see a KO.
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BTW
What about the way Matt Hughes put that other guy to sleep.
Now that was impressive!!!
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yeahbuddy wrote:BTW
What about the way Matt Hughes put that other guy to sleep.
Now that was impressive!!!
I couldn't believe that happened.
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FullDJacket wrote:Dos Santos impressed me and disappointed me. He looked good but if he can't knock out Roy Nelson how is going to knock out Lesnar?

Silva vs Sonnen was a great fight but it was full of pussy soft punches.

I wanted to see a KO.
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yeahbuddy wrote:BTW
What about the way Matt Hughes put that other guy to sleep.
Now that was impressive!!!


I lost money on that fight, but I liked the end. It was bizarre because when I saw it happen live, I wasn't quite sure what it was. Then in the replay you can see him just go limp.
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tin00can wrote:
yeahbuddy wrote:BTW
What about the way Matt Hughes put that other guy to sleep.
Now that was impressive!!!


I lost money on that fight, but I liked the end. It was bizarre because when I saw it happen live, I wasn't quite sure what it was. Then in the replay you can see him just go limp.
Yeah, I had to watch it again, even after the replay.
Dang, the guy was already a bit groggy from the hit. Hughes choked the guy out using the other guy's own arm/shoulder area. And when he went out, it all happened in slow mo.

What about Clay Guido busting that other dude's jaw.
I'm a big fan of Clay. Hopefully he has regained his focus and will continue to do well in fights. He's a definite fan favorite, and the sport needs a guy like him.
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pieceofme wrote:Silva was lucky. Dominated for 4 and half rounds, but fair play for going till the end. What champions do.
Lucky? Silva's a blackbelt in Jiu-Jitsu and Sonnen fucked up and got caught in a triangle. That's hardly luck...that's the name of the game.
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pieceofme wrote:Silva was lucky. Dominated for 4 and half rounds, but fair play for going till the end. What champions do.
Lucky? Silva's a blackbelt in Jiu-Jitsu and Sonnen fucked up and got caught in a triangle. That's hardly luck...that's the name of the game.
Silva tried that move at least 3 or 4 times throughout the fight, but couldnt sink it in. Sonnen was smart and strong enough to get out of it.
If you watch fight again, Sonnen got nailed by a Silva right a bit earlier, and was a bit dazed. After he got hit by that right, he put his hand up to protect his face, and you could tell he was a bit wacked. But being the warrior that he was, he kept fighting. Soon thereafter Silva locked that triangle in.
Here is a very cool breakdown of what happened leading up to the moment of the submission. Very cool!!!
http://mmablips.dailyradar.com/video/si ... breakdown/
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yeahbuddy wrote: Silva tried that move at least 3 or 4 times throughout the fight, but couldnt sink it in. Sonnen was smart and strong enough to get out of it.
If you watch fight again, Sonnen got nailed by a Silva right a bit earlier, and was a bit dazed. After he got hit by that right, he put his hand up to protect his face, and you could tell he was a bit wacked. But being the warrior that he was, he kept fighting. Soon thereafter Silva locked that triangle in.
Here is a very cool breakdown of what happened leading up to the moment of the submission. Very cool!!!
http://mmablips.dailyradar.com/video/si ... breakdown/


If Sonnen is a warrior for keeping that fight going, what does that make Silva?
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yeahbuddy wrote: Silva tried that move at least 3 or 4 times throughout the fight, but couldnt sink it in. Sonnen was smart and strong enough to get out of it.
If you watch fight again, Sonnen got nailed by a Silva right a bit earlier, and was a bit dazed. After he got hit by that right, he put his hand up to protect his face, and you could tell he was a bit wacked. But being the warrior that he was, he kept fighting. Soon thereafter Silva locked that triangle in.
Here is a very cool breakdown of what happened leading up to the moment of the submission. Very cool!!!
http://mmablips.dailyradar.com/video/si ... breakdown/


If Sonnen is a warrior for keeping that fight going, what does that make Silva?
No doubt Silva is a stud. He hit & kicked Sonnen with some shots that put other fighters out and embarrassed the hell out of them (Rich Franklin, Forrest Griffith, etc etc). Sonnen took those shots and kept moving forward. I dont like Silva (like most ufc fans), but respect the hell out of him. I didnt give Sonnen a chance in hell, but he proved me and many others dead wrong.
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pieceofme wrote:Silva was lucky. Dominated for 4 and half rounds, but fair play for going till the end. What champions do.
Lucky? Silva's a blackbelt in Jiu-Jitsu and Sonnen fucked up and got caught in a triangle. That's hardly luck...that's the name of the game.
Silva tried that move at least 3 or 4 times throughout the fight, but couldnt sink it in. Sonnen was smart and strong enough to get out of it.
If you watch fight again, Sonnen got nailed by a Silva right a bit earlier, and was a bit dazed. After he got hit by that right, he put his hand up to protect his face, and you could tell he was a bit wacked. But being the warrior that he was, he kept fighting. Soon thereafter Silva locked that triangle in.
Here is a very cool breakdown of what happened leading up to the moment of the submission. Very cool!!!
http://mmablips.dailyradar.com/video/si ... breakdown/
Exactly. And in Jiu-jitsu, that's the way it's done. Check out some of the old Royce Gracie fights. Dude did practically nothing for a whole fight then would sink in the submission.
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BozoMcMetal wrote:
yeahbuddy wrote:BTW
What about the way Matt Hughes put that other guy to sleep.
Now that was impressive!!!
I couldn't believe that happened.
pieceofme wrote:
FullDJacket wrote:Dos Santos impressed me and disappointed me. He looked good but if he can't knock out Roy Nelson how is going to knock out Lesnar?

Silva vs Sonnen was a great fight but it was full of pussy soft punches.

I wanted to see a KO.
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Yeah, because Brock showed a great chin and excellent striking defense in his last fight...
Anyway you look at it, he survived it and wasn't knocked out.
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pieceofme wrote:Silva was lucky. Dominated for 4 and half rounds, but fair play for going till the end. What champions do.
Minotauro Nogueira made a career pulling stunts like that. And it's not like Chael's never been submitted before. It's like he was setting himself up to be submitted trough out the whole.

But anyway, I was surprised with that fight to say the least. I'll have to watch it again, cause I'm not sure if Chael was that good or if Anderson's was that bad. I don't know, Anderson is a fantastic striker but you wouldn't
really see it from that fight.
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John Simon Ritchie wrote: Exactly. And in Jiu-jitsu, that's the way it's done. Check out some of the old Royce Gracie fights. Dude did practically nothing for a whole fight then would sink in the submission.
Yeah but with today's rules he would lose a lot of fights to a decision. You can't stay on your guard for 15 minutes straight anymore.
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pieceofme wrote:Silva was lucky. Dominated for 4 and half rounds, but fair play for going till the end. What champions do.
Minotauro Nogueira made a career pulling stunts like that. And it's not like Chael's never been submitted before. It's like he was setting himself up to be submitted trough out the whole.

But anyway, I was surprised with that fight to say the least. I'll have to watch it again, cause I'm not sure if Chael was that good or if Anderson's was that bad. I don't know, Anderson is a fantastic striker but you wouldn't
really see it from that fight.
He nailed Sonnen with some big shots a number of times, always at beginning of round. Once it got the ground, it was Sonnen's game. Although Silva got some nice shots in while he was on his back. Also, I think it was 4th round, Sonnen stood toe to toe exchanging with Silva, and didnt blink.
Watch fight again, 5th round, before Silva locked the triangle, you'll will see he got a nice shot in, and Sonnen was a bit dazed. That set up the triangle.
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I'm watching the fight again and here's something I hadn't notice before: In the first round Silva drops his hands and lets Sonnen punch him several times in the face. What the hell was that?
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mullet_head wrote:
John Simon Ritchie wrote: Exactly. And in Jiu-jitsu, that's the way it's done. Check out some of the old Royce Gracie fights. Dude did practically nothing for a whole fight then would sink in the submission.
Yeah but with today's rules he would lose a lot of fights to a decision. You can't stay on your guard for 15 minutes straight anymore.
That's not my point. My point is, you wait for the other guy to make that one mistake and it's over.
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mullet_head wrote:I'm watching the fight again and here's something I hadn't notice before: In the first round Silva drops his hands and lets Sonnen punch him several times in the face. What the hell was that?
I think he wanted to show that he could take a punch. If not mistaken, he just got nailed didnt he? Most of the time when a fighter gets nailed they shake their head or smile like it didnt hurt. When in fact, it hurt.
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but anyway 117 must have been the best ppv in recent times?
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FullDJacket wrote:but anyway 117 must have been the best ppv in recent times?
Yes, I agree with you on it being one of the recent top ppv for ufc. I wasnt going to buy it until I saw the undercard, and wanted to see if Sonnen could back up his talk.
Was not disappointed at all.
I thought it was a great night of fights. Although I was seriously disappointed that Sonnen didnt win. a minute and some change from being the new champ, didnt happen though.
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I was never interested in Sonnen until this fight, now I'll be intrigued to see any of his future fights. I think they should have a rematch.
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BD888 wrote:I was never interested in Sonnen until this fight, now I'll be intrigued to see any of his future fights. I think they should have a rematch.
Dana White is smart. The rematch is next for both of these guys. There's too much on the line for the two fighters to fight somebody else. If either of these guys were to fight somebody else and lose, that would not be good.
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I think Silva let Sonnen get the best of him, he was looking to knock Sonnen out, not fight him, just like Rampage & Evans.

I didn't think he expected Sonnen to be such a good wrestler, Sonnen also let his pride get in the way, he needed to weight it out, he had the 5 rounds on him, but wanted to show off and try to finish him, I'm not saying is bad, but when you are 5 rounds and tired, and you are going against Silva, any tiny mistake counts, and that's how he got locked in.

My friend came in in half fight and tought Silva was beating the shit out of Sonnen from how his face looked.


I was dissapointed on Alves and Dos Santos,

I was happy for Hughes and Guida, specially Hughes, I do want to see him come back to form.
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yeahbuddy wrote:
tin00can wrote:
yeahbuddy wrote:BTW
What about the way Matt Hughes put that other guy to sleep.
Now that was impressive!!!


I lost money on that fight, but I liked the end. It was bizarre because when I saw it happen live, I wasn't quite sure what it was. Then in the replay you can see him just go limp.
Yeah, I had to watch it again, even after the replay.
Dang, the guy was already a bit groggy from the hit. Hughes choked the guy out using the other guy's own arm/shoulder area. And when he went out, it all happened in slow mo.

What about Clay Guido busting that other dude's jaw.
I'm a big fan of Clay. Hopefully he has regained his focus and will continue to do well in fights. He's a definite fan favorite, and the sport needs a guy like him.
Clay Guida is one of my favorites in the sport. Nice guy, hard worker, got a motor that just will NOT quit, but in all honesty, he's undersized for 155. He really needs to drop to 145, maybe even 135, and fight in the WEC. Clay's walk-around weight can't be more than 150, and he's fighting guys that when they rehydrate on fight night are 160+ a lot of times. Case in point, the Roger Huerta fight. Clay was Clay, but Roger was so much larger he looked like he was two classes up.
I honestly believe that if Clay were to ever to drop a class and fight in the WEC, he'd be undefeated for as long as he stayed there. I also believe that as long as he stays at 155 and in UFC he'll never be a real contender. He's just too small.
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nakedmadman wrote:
Clay Guida is one of my favorites in the sport. Nice guy, hard worker, got a motor that just will NOT quit, but in all honesty, he's undersized for 155. He really needs to drop to 145, maybe even 135, and fight in the WEC. Clay's walk-around weight can't be more than 150, and he's fighting guys that when they rehydrate on fight night are 160+ a lot of times. Case in point, the Roger Huerta fight. Clay was Clay, but Roger was so much larger he looked like he was two classes up.
I honestly believe that if Clay were to ever to drop a class and fight in the WEC, he'd be undefeated for as long as he stayed there. I also believe that as long as he stays at 155 and in UFC he'll never be a real contender. He's just too small.

I think his post-fight chat with Joe was interesting, and I hope it's true about him focusing. The same thing that makes him so fun to watch - the fact that he just constantly pounds away - is also a weakness of sorts. With a little more focus and selectivity he would be a top fighter.

You do make good points, too. Didn't he used to be in WEC?
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tin00can wrote:
nakedmadman wrote:
Clay Guida is one of my favorites in the sport. Nice guy, hard worker, got a motor that just will NOT quit, but in all honesty, he's undersized for 155. He really needs to drop to 145, maybe even 135, and fight in the WEC. Clay's walk-around weight can't be more than 150, and he's fighting guys that when they rehydrate on fight night are 160+ a lot of times. Case in point, the Roger Huerta fight. Clay was Clay, but Roger was so much larger he looked like he was two classes up.
I honestly believe that if Clay were to ever to drop a class and fight in the WEC, he'd be undefeated for as long as he stayed there. I also believe that as long as he stays at 155 and in UFC he'll never be a real contender. He's just too small.

I think his post-fight chat with Joe was interesting, and I hope it's true about him focusing. The same thing that makes him so fun to watch - the fact that he just constantly pounds away - is also a weakness of sorts. With a little more focus and selectivity he would be a top fighter.

You do make good points, too. Didn't he used to be in WEC?
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http://www.wec.tv/ClayGuida

It appears he had one fight in the WEC.
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Bidokan wrote:I think Silva let Sonnen get the best of him, he was looking to knock Sonnen out, not fight him, just like Rampage & Evans.

I didn't think he expected Sonnen to be such a good wrestler, Sonnen also let his pride get in the way, he needed to weight it out, he had the 5 rounds on him, but wanted to show off and try to finish him, I'm not saying is bad, but when you are 5 rounds and tired, and you are going against Silva, any tiny mistake counts, and that's how he got locked in.

My friend came in in half fight and tought Silva was beating the shit out of Sonnen from how his face looked.


I was dissapointed on Alves and Dos Santos,

I was happy for Hughes and Guida, specially Hughes, I do want to see him come back to form.
Silva "let" Sonnen get the best of him?
Silva tried to knock him out just like all the other fighters he took out. Sonnen took his best shot and kept attacking.
I do agree with the pride comment. Although Sonnen did say in the post fight confrence that as a fighter you never know what round it is, you just keep fighting & banging away. The way Sonnen fights, to get him to back off is like asking a cat not to chase a mouse.
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yeahbuddy wrote: What about Clay Guido busting that other dude's jaw.
I'm a big fan of Clay. Hopefully he has regained his focus and will continue to do well in fights. He's a definite fan favorite, and the sport needs a guy like him.
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nakedmadman wrote:
Clay Guida is one of my favorites in the sport. Nice guy, hard worker, got a motor that just will NOT quit, but in all honesty, he's undersized for 155. He really needs to drop to 145, maybe even 135, and fight in the WEC. Clay's walk-around weight can't be more than 150, and he's fighting guys that when they rehydrate on fight night are 160+ a lot of times. Case in point, the Roger Huerta fight. Clay was Clay, but Roger was so much larger he looked like he was two classes up.
I honestly believe that if Clay were to ever to drop a class and fight in the WEC, he'd be undefeated for as long as he stayed there. I also believe that as long as he stays at 155 and in UFC he'll never be a real contender. He's just too small.
...if he went down in weight he would no doubt reign supreme, but then that means going back to the minor leagues and making minor league money at WEC, not really a smart career choice, i think 135 would be too low for him, i dont think he's too small for 155 he's short but he's a stocky guy, fight fans often confuse being short with being small, (eg: matt serra) but theres a big defference between the two, also size doesnt always make the better fighter, WEC joseph benavidez is a good example, at 135 the dude looks like a little buff horse jockey but he plowed over everyone only to just lose a title fight by a tough split decision to cruz.

..and frankie edgar is no bigger than clay and he won bj for the belt which he now holds. Kenny florian & pellegrino arent exactly big either and both do well, clay can hold his own at 155, his loses have mostly either been from him fighting reckless or being edged out in a decision, i dont think his size is holding him back, he just needs to refine himself as a fighter and have better game plans for different opponents.
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