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Alabama fan poisons two 130 year old trees at Auburn.

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The roots of the famous Toomer’s Oaks run deep in the Auburn community.

When fans heard Wednesday afternoon that their beloved trees had been poisoned, they immediately went out to Toomer’s Corner and rolled the leafy landmarks.

“I think it’s pretty obvious that everybody feels pretty awful about it,” Auburn University student Michael Moore said at Toomer’s Corner Wednesday afternoon. “We see [these trees] every day as we walk around campus, and now they’re going to be gone.”

Moore, a sophomore majoring in history, said it wasn’t just the trees that were poisoned, but also a piece of AU history.

“You can’t replace 130 years of heritage that some people’s great-grandparents rolled when they went here,” he said. “You just can’t replace it.”

Kevin Johnson, an industrial engineering senior, feels the same way.

“Honestly, I just don’t understand why somebody would destroy something that is that key to the university,” he said. “ … To me, it’s just crazy that somebody would choose to do that to Auburn.”

It started with a phone call

On Jan. 27, a caller to “The Paul Finebaum Show,” a sports talk radio show out of Birmingham, claimed he poisoned the live oaks shortly after the Iron Bowl with an herbicide known as Spike 80DF.

The show re-aired the conversation Wednesday. In the call, the man, who goes by “Al in Dadeville,” said he poisoned the trees as retribution for the actions of students who allegedly rolled the College Street/Magnolia Avenue landmarks when legendary University of Alabama coach Paul “Bear” Bryant died.

“The weekend after the Iron Bowl, I went to Auburn, Ala. – I live 30 miles away – and I poisoned the two Toomer’s trees,” the caller said on the show. “I put Spike 80DF in them.”

Show host Finebaum then asked the caller if the trees had died, to which Al in Dadeville responded, “They have not died yet, but they will die.”

When told that poisoning the trees was illegal, the caller said he didn’t care.

He ended the conversation by saying, “Roll Damn Tide.”

Auburn University officials confirmed the poisoning on Wednesday, saying in a statement, “an herbicide commonly used to kill trees was deliberately applied in lethal amounts to the soil around the Toomer’s Corner live oaks on campus, and there is little chance to save the trees.”
What a fucking asshole.

It's people like this who take the fun out of college sports. It's unfortunate that people like this exist at all of the top level programs. Fans need to focus more on having fun and enjoying their own team instead of attacking every other school that is out there. Regardless of what anyone thinks about Auburn, this is nasty not to mention illegal. I hope they find the guy and send him to jail. Preferably sharing a room with an Auburn fan.
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I live in the SE, and Bama fans are the most useless fucks in sports, and I'm a Syracuse fan and not a rival fan.

I remember a story from a few years ago, where a dad shot his son because he asked fot the car keys right after Bama had lost to Arkansas.
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The article mentions "rolling" three different times. What is that supposed to mean? And before this gets too carried away, this is a terrible thing to do. Let's remember, however, that this offense was done to trees, not human beings, so a softer punishment than say, assault, would be appropriate.
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I saw this on the news the other day. This is a dick move on another level.
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Hanging over the corner are two massive old-growth oak trees, and anytime anything good happens concerning Auburn, toilet paper can usually be found hanging from the trees. Also known as "rolling the corner", this tradition is thought to have originated in the 1950s to celebrate away victories; however, in recent years it has become a way to celebrate anything good that happens concerning Auburn. On January 10, 2011 when Auburn Football won the BCS National Championship game, a celebration was held at the corner which involved the traditional papering.
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Hunt him down and hang “Al in Dadeville,” from one of the dead trees until he stops dancing at ropes end.


Take a pic, I wanna laugh.
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KneelandBobDylan wrote:Here's a pic:

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Hanging over the corner are two massive old-growth oak trees, and anytime anything good happens concerning Auburn, toilet paper can usually be found hanging from the trees. Also known as "rolling the corner", this tradition is thought to have originated in the 1950s to celebrate away victories; however, in recent years it has become a way to celebrate anything good that happens concerning Auburn. On January 10, 2011 when Auburn Football won the BCS National Championship game, a celebration was held at the corner which involved the traditional papering.
I take that back. I don't feel sorry for those brats at Auburn one bit. It really looks like they were respectful to their own trees. Pot, meet Kettle.
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Yesterdaze wrote:
KneelandBobDylan wrote:Here's a pic:

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Hanging over the corner are two massive old-growth oak trees, and anytime anything good happens concerning Auburn, toilet paper can usually be found hanging from the trees. Also known as "rolling the corner", this tradition is thought to have originated in the 1950s to celebrate away victories; however, in recent years it has become a way to celebrate anything good that happens concerning Auburn. On January 10, 2011 when Auburn Football won the BCS National Championship game, a celebration was held at the corner which involved the traditional papering.
I take that back. I don't feel sorry for those brats at Auburn one bit. It really looks like they were respectful to their own trees. Pot, meet Kettle.

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Toilet papering is a far cry from killing, fucktard.
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I saw this on the news a couple of days ago. I am a Bama fan through and through and am all for messing around with the other team, but this is bullshit. Completely stupid on his part. I'd be pretty pissed if someone came and busted up Denny Chimes or bulldozed the quad. Not to mention the fact that they are killing the environment! It's morons like this that give the South a bad name.
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Bama fan will retaliate with something just as ugly.
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What a fucking asshole.

It's people like this who take the fun out of college sports. It's unfortunate that people like this exist at all of the top level programs. Fans need to focus more on having fun and enjoying their own team instead of attacking every other school that is out there. Regardless of what anyone thinks about Auburn, this is nasty not to mention illegal. I hope they find the guy and send him to jail. Preferably sharing a room with an Auburn fan.
Mouthbreathers down south take that shit way too seriously. It's a fucking game.
He's like the Liberace of bass & pot.

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KneelandBobDylan wrote:
What a fucking asshole.

It's people like this who take the fun out of college sports. It's unfortunate that people like this exist at all of the top level programs. Fans need to focus more on having fun and enjoying their own team instead of attacking every other school that is out there. Regardless of what anyone thinks about Auburn, this is nasty not to mention illegal. I hope they find the guy and send him to jail. Preferably sharing a room with an Auburn fan.
Mouthbreathers down south take that shit way too seriously. It's a fucking game.

I see it everyday. I'm 35 miles north of the Alabama - Tennessee state line.

The UT fans here with all their orange and white shit, including cars, and homes, not to mention clothes drive me nuts. UT is an obsession here.
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If I had a dollar for every time some dumbass Bama fan ran up to me while I was wearing my vikings jersey and yelled ROLL TIDE!!! because they thought it was an LSU jersey, I'd be richer than Gene Simmons. Idiots.
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BTW, I should say I know some cool Bama fans too, but they have some losers for sure.
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If you believe the guy who has been charged with this crime is a "real" Alabama fan, then you probably shouldnt be slinging around the "mouthbreather" comments so loosely...else they come back to you yourself...

The dude charged wasnt born here, hes originally from Texas, and even in the radio spot where he claimed to do this, he made a point of saying he wasnt really an Alabama fan. Add to the fact that he claimed to do this in some kind of retaliation because Auburn won the NC with Cam, and the oft-proved untrue rumor that Toomers Corner was rolled when Bear Bryant died...this does not make an intelligent man, let alone a true Crimson Tide fan.

A true fan wouldnt do something this asinine simply because all it would do is get Auburn fans to come to Tuscaloosa and start fucking with shit in Bryant Denny stadium or on the grounds...such as Bears statue...
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Here's the culprit. He's looking at 10 years in prison if convicted.

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milk-milk-lemonade wrote:Here's the culprit. He's looking at 10 years in prison if convicted.

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I expected a college kid. What a douche.
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milk-milk-lemonade wrote:Here's the culprit. He's looking at 10 years in prison if convicted.

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I expected a college kid. What a douche.
I'm not. I knew it had to be some podunk hillbilly fuck.
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Poisoned Trees Bring Truce to a Civil War in Alabama Football

By MIKE TIERNEY

The attempted killing of two trees that are occasionally draped with toilet paper might have been considered a blip on the police blotter.

But when those two 130-year-old live oaks shade an intersection known as Toomer’s Corner in Auburn, Ala. — considered sacred ground among the Auburn University faithful — and are poisoned, apparently in the name of the University of Alabama football icon Bear Bryant, the normal order of business is upended.

The accused, a former Texas state trooper, had trouble acquiring a lawyer. Two court-appointed lawyers and a privately retained lawyer asked to be taken off the case before a fourth came forward and seems to have stuck.

And now a truce of sorts, once unfathomable, has emerged between the universities’ supporters, normally divided like Hatfields and McCoys. The newfound peace was embodied by Alabama loyalists who collected money to assist Auburn’s long-shot restoration efforts for the critically ill oaks.


The trigger for these oddities is Harvey A. Updyke, 62 — a k a Al from Dadeville, as he identified himself when calling a popular sports talk radio show with what apparently was a confession on Jan. 27.

Taking grudge-holding to new depths, Updyke/Al claimed on the call to have infected the landmark trees with a deadly dose of the herbicide Spike 80DF in retribution for Auburn devotees’ supposed toilet-papering of the oak trees in celebration of Bryant’s death 28 years ago. (The toilet paper ritual is customarily confined to Tigers football victories.) Spike 80DF has been confirmed as the chemical used.

Updyke’s allegiance to the Crimson Tide is evident on his own family tree. A daughter is named Crimson, a son Bear.

Updyke’s first court-appointed lawyer, Philip Tyler, withdrew. He cited his part-time professorship at Auburn and other personal and professional ties.

Jerry Hauser’s name came up — and, just as quickly, came down because his wife is head of the Auburn communications and journalism department.

Next up, however briefly, was Jerry Blevins. He attributed his pullout to an irreconcilable conflict with Updyke, although Blevins did graduate from the Auburn campus in Montgomery. Blevins declined to elaborate.

Before accepting a client, “lawyers at a professional level have to consider any legal bias or prejudice,” said Tony McLain, general counsel to the Alabama State Bar. Otherwise, he explained, a defendant might have grounds for an appeal if convicted.

Into the breach stepped Glennon Threatt Jr. of Birmingham, whose only stated connection to Auburn was an athlete niece who went there in the late 1990s.

“It is an extraordinary case, and it was clear he needed somebody with certain experiences,” said Threatt, mentioning his track record in dealing with the news media on high-profile trials.

In an interview, Threatt, who waived his fee, contended that the case was hardly cut-and-dried; Updyke’s account to the police on his involvement differed from what he disclosed over the air. He suggested Updyke might have been prone to braggadocio.

“If a person commits a criminal act, they don’t want to be discovered,” he said. “The last thing you would do is call a radio show.”

Updyke takes some 20 prescription medicines daily for various chronic ailments, Threatt said, adding, “He has a history of emotional and psychological problems that could have contributed to perhaps poor judgment in any act and certainly from calling the show.”

Threatt, an Alabama native with degrees from Princeton and Howard University School of Law, takes offense at some portrayals of Updyke, one of which compared him to Ernest T. Bass from “The Andy Griffith Show.”

“He is not ignorant, not a redneck,” Threatt said. “He is not some sort of Andy Griffith-type of character who would be hanging out at Floyd’s barbershop. I resent those types of stereotypes.”

Threatt is accustomed to representing unsympathetic clients. One was convicted of killing three police officers. More recently, he defended the disgraced Birmingham mayor, Larry Langford, who was found guilty of accepting bribes.

Asked about harsh feedback since volunteering for the case, Threatt said: “Well, my barber is a die-hard Auburn fan. I called him because I wanted to know if I needed a new barber.”

It will be nothing like the murder trial during which he was spit on, Threatt said.

Well versed in the Auburn-Alabama rivalry and its attendant rancor, Threatt said he might request a change of location if a trial ensues. At the same time, he said that Lee County, home to the city of Auburn, could deliver impartial jurors.

The prosecution should not assume that a jury impaneled with Crimson Tide fans would necessarily go soft on the defendant, based on the work of the Facebook group Tide for Toomer’s.

Five Alabama graduates started the page to raise donations for and awareness of the trees.

“We thought what had been done was absolutely reprehensible,” Gina Smith of Montgomery said.

Smith and her co-creators expected a thousand or so “friends” who might pledge a few hundred dollars. “We had no idea,” she said.

With the campaign set to wind down Thursday, the supporter count surpassed 60,000 this week, and contributions are approaching $50,000.

Smith, who also holds a master’s degree from Auburn, is not naïve enough to predict continued détente. “I don’t think fans will lock arms and sing ‘Kumbaya’ at the Iron Bowl this year,” she said.

Still, Smith expects a renewed sense of sportsmanship that she hopes will extend to the more rabid followers in each camp.

“There is a silent majority of very rational fans who keep the rivalry in perspective,” she said.

Those fans are largely white-collar professionals, said Wayne Flynt, distinguished professor emeritus of history at Auburn. “Decent, good people who never took the rivalry as serious because they’ve got a life after football,” he said.

Flynt, editor in chief of the online Encyclopedia of Alabama, characterized the more obsessed as primarily working-class “pickup-truck alumni” who matriculated to neither university and whose lives are a struggle.

“Football is all they have to live for,” Flynt said, citing the occasional shooting or stabbing after past Iron Bowl games.

Antipathy between Auburn and Alabama alumni dates to an era of pronounced socioeconomic and cultural differences, he said. Many of those contrasting traits, but not all, no longer apply. “Auburn used to be called the cow college,” he said.

The armistice is no surprise to Flynt, who believes the nasty rhetoric could remain at a murmur as long as the football teams beat each other regularly. His theory: the dominance of one over an extended period can raise the temperature on the losing side to a boiling point.

With the Tide and the Tigers each winning the past two seasons on the way to national championships, perhaps peace, if short-term, is on the horizon.


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