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ParaDime77 wrote:
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Space Bear wrote:The only way this shit gets any better... Vince buys TNA before Wrestlemania.
They really should have considered Paul Heyman for a creative overview position.

They did, but he wanted complete control that they weren't willing to relinquish.
I bet they're wishing otherwise now! Russo is poison.
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TNA talked to Heyman and decided they wanted to stick to Legends & Nobodies naptime and Heyman wanted NEW ENTERTAINING 'extremely creative' ANGLES and to make new stars.


That's why TNA is still a distant number 2.
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Subhuman Yeti wrote:TNA talked to Heyman and decided they wanted to stick to Legends & Nobodies naptime and Heyman wanted NEW ENTERTAINING 'extremely creative' ANGLES and to make new stars.


That's why TNA is still a distant number 2.
I'm all for Heyman coming into TNA, and most of the people I've talked to are as well. Shame.
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OverMe wrote: He was charged last year for drug possession you parasydic troglodyte
If they had so much evidence on him, he would have been convicted by now instead of having his case postponed twenty times you Jay-Bron.
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just give him probation and let him suffer in the IMPACT zone
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OverMe wrote: He was charged last year for drug possession you parasydic troglodyte
If they had so much evidence on him, he would have been convicted by now instead of having his case postponed twenty times you Jay-Bron.
Let's think about this for a second.

From Wikipedia:
Hardy, however, was released from WWE on April 22, 2003.[5][60] The reasons given for the release were Hardy's erratic behavior, drug use, refusal to go to rehab, deteriorating ring performance, as well as constant tardiness and no-showing events.[2][60] Hardy also cites "burn out" and the need for time off as reasons for leaving WWE.[22]
This is referring to his first WWE run.
Hardy was scheduled to wrestle on the pre-show of Turning Point in December 2005, but once again no-showed the event, again citing traveling problems.[3][5] Hardy was suspended as a result and did not appear on TNA television again.[3] In March, April, and May 2006, Hardy appeared on several live events promoted by TNA in conjunction with Dave Hebner and the United Wrestling Federation.[3][5]
This is referring to his first TNA run.

Granted, the reason cited for leaving his second WWE run is a neck injury (among others), but the same bullshit is cycling around once again, not even two years later! No-showing, arriving late, repeated reports of being intoxicated by something at multiple shows.

I wouldn't be surprised if TNA was funding someone to "misplace" any evidence they had on the guy. Hence, why the hearings keep getting delayed.

So let's say Hardy isn't on drugs - this is all just an accusation for years. Let's take drugs out of the picture. The fact is that Jeff isn't doing his job, isn't showing up for his job, and is half-assing his job while getting paid more than 90% of the roster to be there on name and draw alone.

If this bullshit went on in any other sector of the economy, Hardy would have had his ass handed to him and fired, with little second chances.

Sorry - I won't make excuses for a guy that obviously isn't willing to straighten himself out and do his job, drugs or no drugs.
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Captain Morgan wrote:
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OverMe wrote: He was charged last year for drug possession you parasydic troglodyte
If they had so much evidence on him, he would have been convicted by now instead of having his case postponed twenty times you Jay-Bron.
Let's think about this for a second.

From Wikipedia:
Hardy, however, was released from WWE on April 22, 2003.[5][60] The reasons given for the release were Hardy's erratic behavior, drug use, refusal to go to rehab, deteriorating ring performance, as well as constant tardiness and no-showing events.[2][60] Hardy also cites "burn out" and the need for time off as reasons for leaving WWE.[22]
This is referring to his first WWE run.
Hardy was scheduled to wrestle on the pre-show of Turning Point in December 2005, but once again no-showed the event, again citing traveling problems.[3][5] Hardy was suspended as a result and did not appear on TNA television again.[3] In March, April, and May 2006, Hardy appeared on several live events promoted by TNA in conjunction with Dave Hebner and the United Wrestling Federation.[3][5]
This is referring to his first TNA run.

Granted, the reason cited for leaving his second WWE run is a neck injury (among others), but the same bullshit is cycling around once again, not even two years later! No-showing, arriving late, repeated reports of being intoxicated by something at multiple shows.

I wouldn't be surprised if TNA was funding someone to "misplace" any evidence they had on the guy. Hence, why the hearings keep getting delayed.

So let's say Hardy isn't on drugs - this is all just an accusation for years. Let's take drugs out of the picture. The fact is that Jeff isn't doing his job, isn't showing up for his job, and is half-assing his job while getting paid more than 90% of the roster to be there on name and draw alone.

If this bullshit went on in any other sector of the economy, Hardy would have had his ass handed to him and fired, with little second chances.

Sorry - I won't make excuses for a guy that obviously isn't willing to straighten himself out and do his job, drugs or no drugs.
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Granted, the reason cited for leaving his second WWE run is a neck injury (among others), but the same bullshit is cycling around once again, not even two years later! No-showing, arriving late, repeated reports of being intoxicated by something at multiple shows.

I wouldn't be surprised if TNA was funding someone to "misplace" any evidence they had on the guy. Hence, why the hearings keep getting delayed.

So let's say Hardy isn't on drugs - this is all just an accusation for years. Let's take drugs out of the picture. The fact is that Jeff isn't doing his job, isn't showing up for his job, and is half-assing his job while getting paid more than 90% of the roster to be there on name and draw alone.

If this bullshit went on in any other sector of the economy, Hardy would have had his ass handed to him and fired, with little second chances.

Sorry - I won't make excuses for a guy that obviously isn't willing to straighten himself out and do his job, drugs or no drugs.

Your source is wikipedia? :D
The part about TNA risking the whole company to hide evidence is beyond laughable. Jeff is getting paid more than 90% of the roster (actually I bet the only active wrestler who makes more would possibly be Sting) because he has earned it. I can't think of too many guys that Jeff has hurt in the ring. If he was such a fuck up wouldn't TNA/WWE have said by now, 'Ok, fuck this guy?"
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Angry Jew wrote:
Captain Morgan wrote:
Granted, the reason cited for leaving his second WWE run is a neck injury (among others), but the same bullshit is cycling around once again, not even two years later! No-showing, arriving late, repeated reports of being intoxicated by something at multiple shows.

I wouldn't be surprised if TNA was funding someone to "misplace" any evidence they had on the guy. Hence, why the hearings keep getting delayed.

So let's say Hardy isn't on drugs - this is all just an accusation for years. Let's take drugs out of the picture. The fact is that Jeff isn't doing his job, isn't showing up for his job, and is half-assing his job while getting paid more than 90% of the roster to be there on name and draw alone.

If this bullshit went on in any other sector of the economy, Hardy would have had his ass handed to him and fired, with little second chances.

Sorry - I won't make excuses for a guy that obviously isn't willing to straighten himself out and do his job, drugs or no drugs.

Your source is wikipedia? :D
The part about TNA risking the whole company to hide evidence is beyond laughable. Jeff is getting paid more than 90% of the roster (actually I bet the only active wrestler who makes more would possibly be Sting) because he has earned it. I can't think of too many guys that Jeff has hurt in the ring. If he was such a fuck up wouldn't TNA/WWE have said by now, 'Ok, fuck this guy?"
Yeah, of course Wikipedia is the only place that has ever mentioned Jeff Hardy.

Jeff has earned it, eh? A guy that, under your assumption, isn't on drugs, but regularly no shows, shows up late, and obviously puts anyone he works with at danger due to his messy work in the ring as of late.

If he wasn't such a fuck up - why did he keep getting bounced between both organizations? Why didn't one organization, such as THE WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT, pay him enough to stay and not leave? That's right.

How about this one?

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/archive/hardyboyzreunion

Straight from the WWE.
As reported on WWE.com, former Superstar Jeff Hardy has been rehired by World Wrestling Entertainment, more than three years after his release from the company. Showing up late for a slew of WWE events and with his in-ring performance slipping, Jeff’s sudden descent three years ago was reportedly the result of a poisonous drug addiction. After refusing to go into drug rehabilitation, Hardy was released from WWE in May 2003.
This was upon his rehire. Any more questions as to whether or not Jeff Hardy is a drug-ridden screw up?
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Do you still think that TNA is paying someone to hide evidence on Hardy's behalf from a fucking ongoing criminal investigation? :D

WWE wanted him back even after Jeff appeared on the January 2010 live iMPACT! before he officially signed with TNA. Jeff turned WWE down. Why? because he doesn't need the money and wanted an HBK/Taker like schedule.

I never said that Jeff hasn't had some kind of issues in the past. I don't think they are as severe as the IWC makes them out to be. Again, who has Jeff hurt in all these years of working? If he was THAT fucked up,surely some people would have been injured, no?
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TNA LOSING AUSTRALIAN TV?
By Mike Johnson on 2011-03-16 15:50:49
Fox8 in Australia has not signed a new deal with TNA to continue broadcasting Impact, a number of readers from that country passed on to PWInsider.com today.
The readers, part of a movement to get the network to sign a new deal and keep TNA on in that area, are asking Australian fans to call Fox8 at 131 999 or write via the network's online feedback form, which you can find by clicking here to request the series be continued by the network.

So, if you are Down Under and enjoy TNA, that's how you can insure the series will continue to air in your market.


http://www.foxtel.com.au/support/feedba ... efault.htm

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Angry Jew wrote:Captain Morgan:
Do you still think that TNA is paying someone to hide evidence on Hardy's behalf from a fucking ongoing criminal inverstigation? :D

WWE wanted him back even after Jeff appeared on the January 2010 live iMPACT! before he officially signed with TNA. Jeff turned WWE down. Why? because he doesn't need the money and wanted an HBK/Taker like schedule.

I never said that Jeff hasn't had some kind of issues in the past. I don't think they are as severe as the IWC makes them out to be. Again, who has Jeff hurt in all these years of working? If he was THAT fucked up,surely some people would have been injured, no?
Let me ask you this one, Angry Jew:
Would you honestly doubt that a (supposedly) multi-million dollar company would slide over a couple of dollars to the law enforcement so that their top draw doesn't get polar-plunged in prison?

I simply stated I wouldn't be surprised, I didn't say that was the case. It seems all too odd that his case keeps getting delayed on account of the evidence. Jeff is already reported to plead guilty to at least some of the charges.

Surely if Jeff wasn't a risk, they wouldn't have cut his match with Sting short, no? Just because something hasn't happened (yet) doesn't mean it never will.
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Captain Morgan wrote: Let me ask you this one, Angry Jew:
Would you honestly doubt that a (supposedly) multi-million dollar company would slide over a couple of dollars to the law enforcement so that their top draw doesn't get polar-plunged in prison?

I simply stated I wouldn't be surprised, I didn't say that was the case. It seems all too odd that his case keeps getting delayed on account of the evidence. Jeff is already reported to plead guilty to at least some of the charges.

Surely if Jeff wasn't a risk, they wouldn't have cut his match with Sting short, no? Just because something hasn't happened (yet) doesn't mean it never will.
Would I be surprised if TNA was doing that? Yes, I would. Dixie has made some questionable decisions but this would take the cake. I still feel that despite his celebrity, if they had THAT much on Hardy, he would at least be doing some time to make an example of him.

The Sting situation is bizzare. I don't know if it was some kind of worked-shoot or what. If Hardy was messed up, why not have him get laid out in the back and substitute Anderson/RVD/Matt Morgan etc?

I'm just glad you admitted that Hardy is TNA's top draw. I'm sure LAWWEMARK will say that means jack shit but I don't have unrealistic expectations for a not even decade old company that started on PPV. Any true wrestling fan should want TNA to succeed so we can have some kind of hint of the Monday Night Wars back.
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why do you want TNA to succeed so bad? All TNA does is get old WWE guys. Wouldnt you want the competition to be different from WWE, having the same "product" is just lame.


So if someone wanted to compete with the NBA, they would just need to put together teams with players past there prime, some from decades ago and put it against TNT NBA nights?
true wrestling fans would want someone to challenge Vince but with something great


all TNA fans say its only 10 years old, blah, blah blah
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Kurt Fucking Angle (you know the best wrestler in the world) says that "Jeff Hardy works harder than anyone"

Kurt Angle posted the following on Twitter:

"I Love Jeff Hardy as a Wrestler and a Man. He is talented and works harder than Anyone. I Hope He can turn it around and overcome obstacles. Jeff- You r in my thoughts and Prayers. You always have a Friend You can go to. GOD Bless."
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Angry Jew wrote:
Captain Morgan wrote: Let me ask you this one, Angry Jew:
Would you honestly doubt that a (supposedly) multi-million dollar company would slide over a couple of dollars to the law enforcement so that their top draw doesn't get polar-plunged in prison?

I simply stated I wouldn't be surprised, I didn't say that was the case. It seems all too odd that his case keeps getting delayed on account of the evidence. Jeff is already reported to plead guilty to at least some of the charges.

Surely if Jeff wasn't a risk, they wouldn't have cut his match with Sting short, no? Just because something hasn't happened (yet) doesn't mean it never will.
Would I be surprised if TNA was doing that? Yes, I would. Dixie has made some questionable decisions but this would take the cake. I still feel that despite his celebrity, if they had THAT much on Hardy, he would at least be doing some time to make an example of him.

The Sting situation is bizzare. I don't know if it was some kind of worked-shoot or what. If Hardy was messed up, why not have him get laid out in the back and substitute Anderson/RVD/Matt Morgan etc?

I'm just glad you admitted that Hardy is TNA's top draw. I'm sure LAWWEMARK will say that means jack shit but I don't have unrealistic expectations for a not even decade old company that started on PPV. Any true wrestling fan should want TNA to succeed so we can have some kind of hint of the Monday Night Wars back.
AJ - I never said he wasn't a top draw. That is why I still feel he's active in TNA - he's about all they have draw-wise. That doesn't mean that I think he SHOULD be there, but he does draw. I think Jeff might actually do time this round, due to his history.

If it's a worked shoot - Russo should be fired. I truly think TNA felt they weren't delivering and that people would demand a refund if Hardy wasn't a part of the advertised main event. In reality, they're already offering a rebate/refund to people BECAUSE he was in the main event. It's a part of the ongoing mess TNA is in.

Hardy has issues. That doesn't mean I don't want him to recover and get stronger again, but I can't make excuses for someone that won't work to help himself when help has been provided for him. It's an ongoing cycle with him that I feel will unfortunately end in his overdose if he stays on this course. It's just my opinion, and you obviously have yours as well, which is completely fine.

I will say this - TNA did put on a great fan-friendly house show weeks ago, and those that attended were stoked to be there. I enjoyed it very much, but it's like the entire thing doesn't translate well on TV. I strongly support a touring Impact show and I think it would help the company immensely.

Do I want TNA to succeed? Yes. Do they have the talent? Yes. A worthwhile creative team? Fuck no.
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yea Kurt Angle is the best wrestler in the world and Sting is an ICON
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LAglamrocker wrote:yea Kurt Angle is the best wrestler in the world and Sting is an ICON
Kurt Angle - the best wrestler in the world? No. One of the best.

Sting an icon? Yes.
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Sting = big fish in a small pond, thats afraid to swim with the big boys
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Do I want TNA to succeed? Yes. Do they have the talent? Yes. A worthwhile creative team? Fuck no.
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LAglamrocker wrote:Sting = big fish in a small pond, thats afraid to swim with the big boys
His time to jump to the WWE was ten years ago. As cool as it would have been to see now, he would have fit in even better back when WCW folded.
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LAglamrocker wrote:Sting = big fish in a small pond, thats afraid to swim with the big boys
Put down the crackpipe now and back away slowly....
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Vince "Sting you want to part of Wrestlemania"

Sting "maybe"

Vince "we can have you face the Undertaker 75,000 and millions all over the world. The past few years Ive pushed the streak as a majoy story"

Sting " im scared, i choose to win the TNA belt in a C level city in North Carolina"

Vince "ha,ha you fucking loser"
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When was the last time Jeff Hardy was in a great match?

Hardy Boyz was the greatest tag team of all time (in ring), and Jeff Hardy was great in TNA in 2005 but now? Who cares?
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FullDJacket wrote:When was the last time Jeff Hardy was in a great match?

Hardy Boyz was the greatest tag team of all time (in ring), and Jeff Hardy was great in TNA in 2005 but now? Who cares?
The greatest tag team of all time? Did you just start watching wrestling 5 years ago? Thanks for the laugh, you goof.
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ParaDime77 wrote:
FullDJacket wrote:When was the last time Jeff Hardy was in a great match?

Hardy Boyz was the greatest tag team of all time (in ring), and Jeff Hardy was great in TNA in 2005 but now? Who cares?
The greatest tag team of all time? Did you just start watching wrestling 5 years ago? Thanks for the laugh, you goof.
What are you on about five years? The Hardy Boyz in the WWF attitude era was 11-12 years ago.
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Hardy Boyz was the greatest tag team of all time (in ring)


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Subhuman Yeti wrote:
Hardy Boyz was the greatest tag team of all time (in ring)


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Hardy Boyz was the greatest tag team of all time (in ring)
I'm thinking that the following tag teams might disagree

The Road Warriors
The Rock N Roll Express
The Midnight Express
The 4 Horsemen in almost any tag team configuration
The British Bulldogs
The Hart Foundation
The Freebirds
The Fabulous Ones
Chris Adams and Gino Hernandez
The Von Erichs
The Funks
Ivan and Nikita Koloff
The Sheephearders

and the list goes on and on
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I haven't posted on this thread before..

Kinda late on the Ultimate Warrior DVD that the WWE put out years back..

Was Warrior that much of an ass.. or were the WWE as a whole just jealous of the guy for coming and going as he pleased..??

Dude was huge, had the ring presence, wasn't technical at all it seems, off the wall promos, but entertaining as well, esp. to all of the bonehead kids at the time..

I really didn't get into wrestling until middle school when Steve Austin hit his stride in the mid to late 90's..

Warrior couldn't have survived in the down n dirty world that Steve created could he?? Do you think he knew that??

The purple paint and outfits didn't help either..
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