The Never Ending MMA thread

[John Simon Ritchie]

Chael stole a round, then got caught, just like everytime he steals. Lulz are you fucking kidding me, after that knee to the chest it was over for.

Chael nutswingers are already uncorking the "illegal knee" defense/excuse.

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

How bad is his nose??

[yeahbuddy]

Chael stole a round, then got caught, just like everytime he steals. Lulz are you fucking kidding me, after that knee to the chest it was over for.

Chael nutswingers are already uncorking the "illegal knee" defense/excuse.

Nah,
that was a clean shot to the upper chest.
Sonnen made a bad mistake(that spinning elbow or whatever it was) & Silva capitalized big time! Once Silva had him on the ground, he picked Chael apart like all the other fighters he has destroyed.
Disappointing fight to say the least because I would've liked to have seen it get to the later rounds.
Didnt know Cung Le was 40 years old. Props to him.
Those Fox prelim fights were painful to watch.
Whatever happened to Melvin Guillard? He reminds me of Paul Daley. You know one of those guys that were up and coming, & now just seem to be treading water. Guillard with all his punching power wins a decesion? Really?
And Forrest Griffith? What the hell are you doing? What a bozo!

[tin00can]

What the eff is up with Forrest running out of the octagon? I want to like the guy but that is just stupid.

Oh yeah, and LOL Sonnen. All that trash-talking and you don't get past the second round.

[slash4pres]

Who the hell is left, now? Vitor's on the way out, Rich already got destroyed twice, Stann or bisping wouldn't stand a chance. I think the only people who would have a snow ball's chance are Lombard or Munoz.

[yeahbuddy]

Who the hell is left, now? Vitor's on the way out, Rich already got destroyed twice, Stann or bisping wouldn't stand a chance. I think the only people who would have a snow ball's chance are Lombard or Munoz.

Bisping,,, maybe & that's a big maybe.
Munoz is next in line if he wins this week. Although I think he would get his ass handed to him just like everybody else has.
Stann is a looooooong way away from competing against Silva.
In otherwords, Silva has cleaned out the division.

[yeahbuddy]

Just read that Rasheed Evans has twittered he wants to fight Silva.
Hmm, that would be interesting.

[EddieVanHeineken]

Disappointing ending to that fight... not that Chael lost but it was kind of anti climactic. When he missed that spinning back fist and fell he needed to scramble, but he just sat there and pulled a Lesnar. Most of teh other fights were boring. The Maia fight was weird.

I was watching the fights at a party and was just amazed how many people (several of them were mma fighters) thought that Chael was 100% serious in all his shit talking. Either people are just gullible, have no sense of humor( i understand if you don't think he's funny...but most people can tell when someone is trying), or just low on the IQ spectrum. A couple of the others who "get" what Chael was doing were talking about the clip where he is recalling growing up on the mean streets of West Linn and the tragedies he saw there such as someone dropping a gum wrapper, twins having to share a BMW, etc etc. just all ridiculous shit......and still these people thought he was SERIOUS!!!

[mullet_head]

To tell you the truth, I think Chael was done way before the knee. After two failed takedown attempts and silva walking around with his hands downs picking shots, the writing was on the wall.

[mullet_head]

Bisping,,, maybe & that's a big maybe.

Bisping doesn't stand a chance, Anderson would just go matrix on him like he did to Forrest.

Bisping should fight Vitor, he hasn't been brutally knocked out since hendo and it's getting time.

[BodyBagz]

The Ortiz - Griffith fight was somewhat good. Tito was gassed in the 2nd round, as well as the 3rd...but his damn right hand is still pretty dangerous as Forrest found out. It was a no-brainer that Forrest was going to win just by the sheer amount of punches and kicks he was throwing and landing. Would have been nice to see Tito go out with a final win, but it remains to be seen if this is really his final fight...

Sonnen - Silva II was way anticlimactic. Chael was able to do what he wanted in the 1st round....why he would come out the 2nd and pull such a shitty executed spinning back fist is something he will have to live with for the next year while he tries to convince people he deserves a 3rd shot at Siva. Silva did to Sonnen the same thing he did to Forrest Griffith...punched him repeatedly as he was back peddling...this just shows that he had no real fear of Chael...and as such he was able to pick him apart and take the win.

I honestly dont see anyone left in this weight class that poses a threat. Rashad Evans vs Silva would be fun to watch, but I dot think Rashad has it...I could be wrong. It seems that in order to get some real competition for him now, Silva needs to bulk up and go to the next weight class...

[yeahbuddy]

Tito was good for the first 30-45 seconds of each round and then gassed.
Many of the writers are writing that Silva demolished Sonnen.
That didn't happen.
He threw that stupid back spinning elbow, fell to the ground, he looked completely disoriented, or he had this "oh shit" look on his face. He didnt give up or quit.
Anderson did what he does, when a fighter makes a mistake, he capitalizes big time. The window of making a mistake on Silva is so small, I am surprised Sonnen tried it. He got a bit cocky & that was stupid.
He should've stuck with his bread & butter although taking Silva down wasnt as easy as the previous round.
That knee to Sonnen's chest was equal to the front kick in the face of Belfort.
Overall it was a shitty night of fights. The FX fights were terrible! And that first fight on the ppv was just as bad. The Mendes fight was silly.

[mullet_head]

The FX fights were terrible! And that first fight on the ppv was just as bad. The Mendes fight was silly.

Funny you should say that, I was watching the guillotine guy and thinking "man what a scrawny little fuck, look at that tiny pencil neck, if he didn't have such a small head I bet it would break, can he even take a punch".

Less than a minute later Mendes knocks him the fuck out.

[yeahbuddy]

The FX fights were terrible! And that first fight on the ppv was just as bad. The Mendes fight was silly.

Funny you should say that, I was watching the guillotine guy and thinking "man what a scrawny little fuck, look at that tiny pencil neck, if he didn't have such a small head I bet it would break, can he even take a punch".

Less than a minute later Mendes knocks him the fuck out.

What I find the silliest aspect of that fight was after it was done Mendes said that they knew because of Mckenzie's length that his mid section was a big target that they would try to exploit. It took one punch & the clown folded like a house of cards. I bet Ronda Rhousey (spelling) wishes she didnt walk out with Mckenzie. He is a goofball.

[yeahbuddy]

Alright,
I watched the 2nd round again.
I didnt realize that Silva held onto Sonnen's shorts
for the majority of the round.
There was a solid 15 seconds when the action was
moving from one side of the octogon to the other
that Silva hd his hand firmly in his shorts. That's bullshit!
Silva was punching Chael & keeping him near by holding the shorts.
It seemed the only time he wasnt holding on was after the chest
to knee when Chael was in trouble.
My take- Silva had to fight dirty(& illegal) to win the fight the way he
did. I'm not saying he wasnt going to win the fight, but come on!

[John Simon Ritchie]

Alright,
I watched the 2nd round again.
I didnt realize that Silva held onto Sonnen's shorts
for the majority of the round.
There was a solid 15 seconds when the action was
moving from one side of the octogon to the other
that Silva hd his hand firmly in his shorts. That's bullshit!
Silva was punching Chael & keeping him near by holding the shorts.
It seemed the only time he wasnt holding on was after the chest
to knee when Chael was in trouble.
My take- Silva had to fight dirty(& illegal) to win the fight the way he
did. I'm not saying he wasnt going to win the fight, but come on!

Man, you were doing so well. Maybe Chael didn't do as well this time because he didn't have 16x amount of Testoterone in his system like the last time around.
The shorts holding shit is just another cop out. Might of happened, but didn't mean shit in the big picture. People grasping at straws. How about the shots to the back of Silva's head in the 1st round, should we bitch about that too? Sonnen can't finish a fight...even in a dominant position for most of it. Then, he got beat by making a mistake and he got caught, again...plain and simple.

[mullet_head]

Man, you were doing so well. Maybe Chael didn't do as well this time because he didn't have 16x amount of Testoterone in his system like the last time around.
The shorts holding shit is just another cop out. Might of happened, but didn't mean shit in the big picture. People grasping at straws. How about the shots to the back of Silva's head in the 1st round, should we bitch about that too? Sonnen can't finish a fight...even in a dominant position for most of it. Then, he got beat by making a mistake and he got caught, again...plain and simple.

Those shots to the back of Silva's head, like most/all of Sonnen punches, weren't really relevant, it's not like he's Vitor. He punched Silva a million times in their first fight and Silva was looking better than me when I wake up.

If by sonnen making a mistake you mean that spinning move, I disagree, he was looking lost after the failed TD attempts already, and if he can't take someone down what else is there to do? I think those 2 or 3 punches that Silva landed on him got him stunned already.

The grabbing the shorts thing, that shit happens so often in so many fights, I never saw anyone making a big deal out of it, nor do I see it having any kind of influence in the outcome.

[yeahbuddy]

Man, you were doing so well. Maybe Chael didn't do as well this time because he didn't have 16x amount of Testoterone in his system like the last time around.
The shorts holding shit is just another cop out. Might of happened, but didn't mean shit in the big picture. People grasping at straws. How about the shots to the back of Silva's head in the 1st round, should we bitch about that too? Sonnen can't finish a fight...even in a dominant position for most of it. Then, he got beat by making a mistake and he got caught, again...plain and simple.

Those shots to the back of Silva's head, like most/all of Sonnen punches, weren't really relevant, it's not like he's Vitor. He punched Silva a million times in their first fight and Silva was looking better than me when I wake up.

If by sonnen making a mistake you mean that spinning move, I disagree, he was looking lost after the failed TD attempts already, and if he can't take someone down what else is there to do? I think those 2 or 3 punches that Silva landed on him got him stunned already.

The grabbing the shorts thing, that shit happens so often in so many fights, I never saw anyone making a big deal out of it, nor do I see it having any kind of influence in the outcome.

Did you watch the fight again?
Holding the shorts the way he did? Happens so often? The ref had to
tell him twice to stop holding the shorts. And that was the times he saw
him doing it.
I completely disagree.
And he wasnt looking lost.
You may think Sonnen is an asshole a loudmouth or whatever, but
the guy is a bull that keeps coming.
Who brought up Sonnen's punching power? Not me. He doesnt knock
guys out. He wins by grinding it out.
I could care less who won the fight. I just wanted a fair fight. And after
watching fight a second time, Silva did some shady things.
Ah but what the hell, he still is the greatest mma fighter of all time. Can't argue that.

[John Simon Ritchie]

Man, you were doing so well. Maybe Chael didn't do as well this time because he didn't have 16x amount of Testoterone in his system like the last time around.
The shorts holding shit is just another cop out. Might of happened, but didn't mean shit in the big picture. People grasping at straws. How about the shots to the back of Silva's head in the 1st round, should we bitch about that too? Sonnen can't finish a fight...even in a dominant position for most of it. Then, he got beat by making a mistake and he got caught, again...plain and simple.

Those shots to the back of Silva's head, like most/all of Sonnen punches, weren't really relevant, it's not like he's Vitor. He punched Silva a million times in their first fight and Silva was looking better than me when I wake up.

If by sonnen making a mistake you mean that spinning move, I disagree, he was looking lost after the failed TD attempts already, and if he can't take someone down what else is there to do? I think those 2 or 3 punches that Silva landed on him got him stunned already.

The grabbing the shorts thing, that shit happens so often in so many fights, I never saw anyone making a big deal out of it, nor do I see it having any kind of influence in the outcome.

1) Exactly. Kinda the point I was making.
2) Fair enough. I'd have to watch the replay.
3. Exactly again.

And the epitome of "shady" is getting caught juicing in the first fight.

[mullet_head]

Did you watch the fight again?
Holding the shorts the way he did? Happens so often? The ref had to
tell him twice to stop holding the shorts. And that was the times he saw
him doing it.
I completely disagree.
And he wasnt looking lost.
You may think Sonnen is an asshole a loudmouth or whatever, but
the guy is a bull that keeps coming.
Who brought up Sonnen's punching power? Not me. He doesnt knock
guys out. He wins by grinding it out.
I could care less who won the fight. I just wanted a fair fight. And after
watching fight a second time, Silva did some shady things.
Ah but what the hell, he still is the greatest mma fighter of all time. Can't argue that.

I watched it again and you're right, I missed it the first time, he does hold the shorts for longer than I thought. In my opinion, it doesn't affect the outcome at all.
It's like fence grabbing to avoid the takedown, it happens, and it's not nearly as bad as hitting the back of the head, which also happens or even knees to the face of a downed opponent (Bisping-Rivera).

Maybe the refs can be stricter in these situations and deduct a point, no warnings given. Fine by me. Still wouldn't have changed anything. I agree with you that sonnen is a bull, he gave Silva the toughest fight in years, but his style doesn't appeal to me that much and now he'll probably ride into obscurity, I see plenty of people who can beat him in the division.

And the epitome of "shady" is getting caught juicing in the first fight.

Yes, he's a dirtbag, the juicing, the fake tapping, the white collar crimes...but isn't he on TRT now? He was basically juiced up again, is that it or am I wrong? If anyone needs testosterone is Anderson Silva, the high pitch talker from seinfeld sounds manlier than him.

[EddieVanHeineken]

The one person who can bring up the holding the shorts, the questionable knee, the greasing or whatever is Chael. At no point has he pointed fingers. He has taken full responsibility for losing the fight. I'm sure if it was Nick Diaz, Tito Ortiz, or several other fighters that's all that would have been discussed at the post fight presser. Say what you will about Sonnen, but he took the loss like a champ (figuratively speaking of course!)

[John Simon Ritchie]

The one person who can bring up the holding the shorts, the questionable knee, the greasing or whatever is Chael. At no point has he pointed fingers. He has taken full responsibility for losing the fight. I'm sure if it was Nick Diaz, Tito Ortiz, or several other fighters that's all that would have been discussed at the post fight presser. Say what you will about Sonnen, but he took the loss like a champ (figuratively speaking of course!)

I kinda thought the "I have to watch the tape" comment right after the fight kind of left that door open for future bitching.

[mullet_head]

This gif's better, you can see Sonnen starting to walk like the goddamm bushwhackers after that right. A shot like that is no joke, a lesser chin (like griffin's) would have folded immediatly.

[EddieVanHeineken]

The one person who can bring up the holding the shorts, the questionable knee, the greasing or whatever is Chael. At no point has he pointed fingers. He has taken full responsibility for losing the fight. I'm sure if it was Nick Diaz, Tito Ortiz, or several other fighters that's all that would have been discussed at the post fight presser. Say what you will about Sonnen, but he took the loss like a champ (figuratively speaking of course!)

I kinda thought the "I have to watch the tape" comment right after the fight kind of left that door open for future bitching.

When you get a chance, watch the actual post-fight press conference. He took full responsibility and discussed "legal vs illegal". He said something to the effect of him being a cage fighter before there were all these rules and that he lost the fight fair and square. As far as Silva grabbing his shorts, he stated he grabbed silva's right back....

http://www.mmaweekly.com/chael-sonnen-t ... deo?vbox=1

[John Simon Ritchie]

The one person who can bring up the holding the shorts, the questionable knee, the greasing or whatever is Chael. At no point has he pointed fingers. He has taken full responsibility for losing the fight. I'm sure if it was Nick Diaz, Tito Ortiz, or several other fighters that's all that would have been discussed at the post fight presser. Say what you will about Sonnen, but he took the loss like a champ (figuratively speaking of course!)

I kinda thought the "I have to watch the tape" comment right after the fight kind of left that door open for future bitching.

When you get a chance, watch the actual post-fight press conference. He took full responsibility and discussed "legal vs illegal". He said something to the effect of him being a cage fighter before there were all these rules and that he lost the fight fair and square. As far as Silva grabbing his shorts, he stated he grabbed silva's right back....

http://www.mmaweekly.com/chael-sonnen-t ... deo?vbox=1

That's cool. I haven't gotten to see the post-fight press conference yet.

[BD888]

I found the card rather boring, I had to get up early on a Sunday to watch it and I actually paid for it this time as I was so excited to see the main event. Boo, hiss, I wanted it to go longer, I kinda felt that it was stopped a few punches early, I kept thinking of the Lesnar vs. Carwin fight, and thought Chael should have been given a bit longer to either recover or let him cover up more and stop it. The first round had me excited, as did the second until the finish. I have no idea what Chael was thinking with the spinning back fist, she should have just stuck trying to pin Silva against the cage and take him down.

I don't thin Bisping would last a round with Silva, he'll get KOed whenever Slva feels like showing off.

I hadn't heard about Rashad till reading this thread. That match up interests me as Rashad is one of the most effective wrestlers in MMA, had decent boxing, good jits, and has KO power. It could be very interesting.

Otherwise, Silva should go up to LHW where there would be endless match ups. I don't see it happening though. He'll ride out his career winning at MW. GSP is too small to fight him, and Jones is too big. If Shogun was champion he might have moved up. Maybe when Jones eventually moves up to HW likes he's planning to, if Silva is still around, then he'll move up.

I can't think of many fights that I am excited for at the moment. All the fighters I have supported for years seem to be in the twilight of their careers. If Aldo accepts the Korean Zombie fight, that might be good, but there won't be much build up.

I reckon Chael's next fight might be with the Axe Murderer. Both on loses, both have exchanged insults, it will be USA vs. Brazil again. That or Chael vs. Vitor that might be interesting since Vitor doesn't really have a fight on now. The idea of Vitor vs. Bisping seems a little harsh for Bisping.

[Indy_Rob]

Jesus Fuck! The end of that Munoz / Weidman fight was brutal. What the fuck was that ref waiting for???

He let Munoz take a beating way beyond what was necessary. Munoz was out and clearly not defending himself anymore. Fuck!

[slash4pres]

Agreed. And I was definitely expecting Munoz to win, Munoz completely overlooked Weidman and thought a title shot was inevitable. Weidman looked extremely legit tonight. Give that man a title eliminator fight with the winner of a fight between Belcher and Bisping.

[yeahbuddy]

Jesus Fuck! The end of that Munoz / Weidman fight was brutal. What the fuck was that ref waiting for???

He let Munoz take a beating way beyond what was necessary. Munoz was out and clearly not defending himself anymore. Fuck!

See all the blood that was pouring out? Jeez!
Don't know if Weidman can beat Silva, but that was impressive.
That elbow was something else wasnt it? I didnt see it until they
showed the replay.
Munoz now goes from being the next in line to back of the line.

[yeahbuddy]

Any interest in the Strikeforce fights this weekend?