The NFL Thread

[AliceManson]

Ed Reed signs with the Texans.

I am surprised Belichick didn't make a run for him.

[Facedown]

Ed Reed signs with the Texans.

I am surprised Belichick didn't make a run for him.

They did, sort of I guess.
Abraham, Freeney and Reed were there the same day. Abraham was the one that was rumored to be signed before he left but that didn't happen either.

[Machado]

Urlacher no longer a Bear
Team and player could not reach an agreement.
Appears both sides were far off.

I blame the owner and the player.
Here we have a special case of a future HOF player that will probably get a statue near the football field who is at the end of his career, but obviously wants to remain a Bear.
Why not have the Owner and player work this contract out.
Leave the agents at home, leave the lawyers waiting in the lobby and get it done.

Originally Urlacher asked for 2 yrs/11M, that is crazy. No chance he will get a 2 yr deal.
Team countered with 1 yr/2M. Probably low, but c'mon, work that shit out and get back on the field for the sake of his legacy, the town, etc...

[Crazy Levi]

Here we have a special case of a future HOF player that will probably get a statue near the football field who is at the end of his career, but obviously wants to remain a Bear.

There's nothing even remotely special about this situation.

Emmit Smith. Art Monk. Jerry Rice. Joe Namath. Joe Montana. Johnny Unitas. Even Franco Fuckin' Harris (I bet you didn't know about this one). All great players who are identified with one team, but got cut or traded.

Happens all the fucking time. Players get old and expensive, their original teams want to move on. And it's about more than money....for a guy like Ulracher, to be told by his team that he's essentially worthless...well he won't want to hang around. The pride is too much. He'll end up taking the same shitty offer the Bears gave him to go fuck up his knees more and embarrass himself elsewhere for another season or two.

And then in two years he can sign one of those stupid "one day contracts" to retire a Bear, if he isn't still pissed off about it.

[Machado]

Here we have a special case of a future HOF player that will probably get a statue near the football field who is at the end of his career, but obviously wants to remain a Bear.

There's nothing even remotely special about this situation.

Emmit Smith. Art Monk. Jerry Rice. Joe Montana. Johnny Unitas. Even Franco Fuckin' Harris (I bet you didn't know about this one).

Happens all the fucking time. Players get old, their original teams want to move on. And it's about more than money....for a guy like Ulracher, to be told by his team that he's essentially worthless...well he won't want to hang around. The pride is too much. He'll end up taking the same shitty offer the Bears gave him to play somewhere else.

And then in two years he can sign one of those stupid "one day contracts" to retire a Bear, if he isn't still pissed off about it.

Urlacher and the Owner should have sat down and saw the big picture.
With the latest events, it's very possible Urlacher will dislike the entire organization and remove himself from the team/field for years or decades.
Which means the fans pay the ultimate price.
All of that could have been avoided by both parties messed up and haven't learned a damn thing from previous situations like his.

[bane]

The Bears did him a favor with that offer. Urlacher is washed up. They could have just said, "sorry man, we're moving on". Sonebody may take him in, but it wont be more than a one year deal for about the same money. He needs to swallow a little pride, understand its a business and stop talking shit. He'll never have to pay for a drink it a meal in Chicago again.

[johnk5150]

Originally Urlacher asked for 2 yrs/11M, that is crazy. No chance he will get a 2 yr deal.
Team countered with 1 yr/2M. Probably low, but c'mon, work that shit out and get back on the field for the sake of his legacy, the town, etc...

He feels like the Bears insulted him. Well Brian, you asked for over 10 million FIRST. He's lucky they countered with the veteran minimum and incentives. His knees aren't even worth that. I hope he signs with the Vikings. It'd be nice to be the team running right over his ass twice a year for a change.

Next to Bill George he's the best MLB they've had. Yes better than Butkus who never suited up for a playoff game and the intensely overated Singletary. He was that good and that fast for that long. He's done.

And the Bears compensated him very well for it. Now go away.

[NeverSurrender]

Here we have a special case of a future HOF player that will probably get a statue near the football field who is at the end of his career, but obviously wants to remain a Bear.

There's nothing even remotely special about this situation.

Emmit Smith. Art Monk. Jerry Rice. Joe Namath. Joe Montana. Johnny Unitas. Even Franco Fuckin' Harris (I bet you didn't know about this one). All great players who are identified with one team, but got cut or traded.

Happens all the fucking time. Players get old and expensive, their original teams want to move on. And it's about more than money....for a guy like Ulracher, to be told by his team that he's essentially worthless...well he won't want to hang around. The pride is too much. He'll end up taking the same shitty offer the Bears gave him to go fuck up his knees more and embarrass himself elsewhere for another season or two.

And then in two years he can sign one of those stupid "one day contracts" to retire a Bear, if he isn't still pissed off about it.

I remember Franco playing or the Seahags and Earl Campbell as a Saint.

[Facedown]

Patriots re-sign Sebastian Vollmer.

[Facedown]

Report:
Ravens sign Elvis Dumervil.

[veritas]

Ed Reed signs with the Texans.

I am surprised Belichick didn't make a run for him.

They did, sort of I guess.
Abraham, Freeney and Reed were there the same day. Abraham was the one that was rumored to be signed before he left but that didn't happen either.

I don't think Reed ever made it to New England. No way was Belichick going to sign him for 3 years and $15M, no matter how much he worshiped Reed in his great days. Patriots just don't overpay. They went for Wilson -- better long-term move, may be a Rodney Harrison kind of impact guy -- maybe ....

Not sure what the hang up is with Abraham and Freeney - though Abraham was for sure going to Patriots and Freeney to Broncos -- Dumervil debacle probably threw in a wrench in everyone's plans.

[bane]

I don't think Reed ever made it to New England. No way was Belichick going to sign him for 3 years and $15M, no matter how much he worshiped Reed in his great days. Patriots just don't overpay. They went for Wilson -- better long-term move, may be a Rodney Harrison kind of impact guy -- maybe ....

Not sure what the hang up is with Abraham and Freeney - though Abraham was for sure going to Patriots and Freeney to Broncos -- Dumervil debacle probably threw in a wrench in everyone's plans.

Reed only got 5 mil of that guaranteed. It was a pretty cap friendly signing for the Texans. All things considered, as long as he can still deliver one decent year, it's a reasonable deal. Of course if he gets hurt or underperforms next season all bets are off.

[veritas]

I don't think Reed ever made it to New England. No way was Belichick going to sign him for 3 years and $15M, no matter how much he worshiped Reed in his great days. Patriots just don't overpay. They went for Wilson -- better long-term move, may be a Rodney Harrison kind of impact guy -- maybe ....

Not sure what the hang up is with Abraham and Freeney - though Abraham was for sure going to Patriots and Freeney to Broncos -- Dumervil debacle probably threw in a wrench in everyone's plans.

Reed only got 5 mil of that guaranteed. It was a pretty cap friendly signing for the Texans. All things considered, as long as he can still deliver one decent year, it's a reasonable deal. Of course if he gets hurt or underperforms next season all bets are off.

I'm not criticizing the Texans' deal - I think Reed can still deliver one more good year or so. I think Belichick figured that getting Adrian Wilson for 3 years at $5M total was a better value than Reed at 1 year @ $5M. Can't say I disagree with that, although it would have been great to see Reed play with Belichick.

[Facedown]

I don't think Reed ever made it to New England.

Yeah, you may be right. It must have been Wilson and not Reed.
Can't believe they haven't signed Sanders from Pittsburgh. He would only cost them a 3rd round pick.

[WTF]

I don't think Reed ever made it to New England.

Yeah, you may be right. It must have been Wilson and not Reed.
Can't believe they haven't signed Sanders from Pittsburgh. He would only cost them a 3rd round pick.

Wilson offers Kyle Arrington a year's supply of diapers in exchange for jersey number 24.

[veritas]

I don't think Reed ever made it to New England.

Yeah, you may be right. It must have been Wilson and not Reed.
Can't believe they haven't signed Sanders from Pittsburgh. He would only cost them a 3rd round pick.

Agreed. The Patriots secondary is laughably bad, and I don't think they have done a ton to address it. Sure, signing Talib to a one-year deal was a good move, provided he stays healthy, but the other corners or either unproven or not very good, and Wilson is not really a Rodney Harrison caliber player at this point, I suspect.

With such a flooded market of quality corners out there, I am pretty surprised at their lack of aggression in that particular area.

[AliceManson]

I don't think Reed ever made it to New England.

Yeah, you may be right. It must have been Wilson and not Reed.
Can't believe they haven't signed Sanders from Pittsburgh. He would only cost them a 3rd round pick.

They still might, they are probably waiting to see what the Steelers' cap space will look like (even though it really won't change, the Steelers rarely sign any free agents), see what the Pats' looks like then scoop him up and really make the Steeler fans hate them even more.

[Facedown]

Falcons sign Osi Umenyiora.

[Facedown]

Released Vikings WR Michael Jenkins signs with the Patriots.

[Facedown]

Jesus, if the Flacco deal wasn't bad enough, bad meaning laughable, the Cowboys may have it beat as they have extended Tony Romo 6yrs/108mil.
$55 million in guarantees and a $25 million signing bonus.
Romo will earn $11.5 million this season, essentially giving him a seven-year contract worth $119.5 million.
The deal makes Romo the highest-paid player in franchise history and tops the $52 million in guarantees that Joe Flacco earned from the Baltimore Ravens as part of his six-year, $120.6 million pact.

[Crazy Levi]

As a Redskins fan I think this is great news.

[sin]

Wow, it's going to be a slow but entertaining meltdown to watch in Dallas the next 7 years.

[Crazy Levi]

Dallas already has cap problems, and they are doing the restructure thing which is only going to make it worse. They are going to be stuck with these players (who aren't getting any younger) and stuck in mediocrity for a long time.

[Machado]

Wow, it's going to be a slow but entertaining meltdown to watch in Dallas the next 7 years.

Time will tell.
Cowboys have a lot to prove and the games are not played on paper.
I hope this is the season where the team turns things around for better.
I would rather have Romo versus a lot of starting NFL QB's. I would also rather than Romo than a rookie QB out of college.
QB's make the big bucks.
Flacco just go paid after winning a SB. Maybe Romo can justify the contract by winning a SB before the deal expires.

[Goddamn Electric]

Flacco just go paid after winning a SB. Maybe Romo can justify the contract by winning a SB before the deal expires.

Pull your fucking head out of your ass.

Romo is a modern day Craig Morton.

[Machado]

Flacco just go paid after winning a SB. Maybe Romo can justify the contract by winning a SB before the deal expires.

Pull your fucking head out of your ass.

Romo is a modern day Craig Morton.

As of today maybe. Nobody knows what the future holds amigo!

[eddie lee roth]

The Cowboys immediate future will include a whole lot of suck.

JJ has fucked this team up good and I love it, fuck the Cowboys.

[sin]

I don't have anything against the Cowboys, it's just that he is close to being at the same level of decline as Palmer, Hasselbeck and Vick. It's a tough situation for Dallas.

I think in a couple years or so they are going to find themselves continuously in the bottom 5 of the draft. They will end up with Romo as a very expensive backup QB no other team wants to pay that kind of money for.

[eddie lee roth]

^
I'm not 100% sure on this but couldn't the Cowboys in a few years just payoff what they still owe on the guaranteed money part of the contract and just move on.

I do know that in the NFL whatever guaranteed money that's in a players contract is the only for sure deal the player can count on.

[bane]

^
I'm not 100% sure on this but couldn't the Cowboys in a few years just payoff what they still owe on the guaranteed money part of the contract and just move on.

I do know that in the NFL whatever guaranteed money that's in a players contract is the only for sure deal the player can count on.

The Cowboys are already against the cap. This deal will force them to cut players. Jerry Jones is the worst GM in football. Period.