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Your points on well-taken, but I think Belichick is in the conversation with Shula, and certainly Walsh. I mean, Belichick's 14-year run has been pretty remarkable. It's up there in consistency and championships with Shula's 1970-1984 run, although Belichick has one more superbowl win. Personally, I think when all is said and done he will be thought of as a better coach than Shula (I already think he is), but there can be no denying Shula's greatness. Many would argue that's it is much tougher to achieve this kind of consistency with the free agent and cap issues of the modern game --that's a more complicated issue.dtmfs wrote:no, but those guys dealt with strikes and other shit, Shula had to deal with losing 3 of his best players to a rival league right after winning 2/3 super bowls, completely changed that era and in 30+ years of coaching dude still only had like 2-3 losing seasons and his wins record is next to impossible to catch. As said before no one is even close to BB in the modern era and He is a future HOFer but I think he blew his chance of being mentioned with the other guys.Gritt wrote: Walsh, Shula, and Lombardi didn't have to deal with the salary cap or free agency.
The last time I remember seeing a team start two QB's, I was at a Monday Night game in Seattle 1992. Elway was out so Dan Reeves started Tommy Maddox and Shawn Moore. They rotated every series and sucked.Crazy Levi wrote:I am not in favor of this move (McCoy). Unadulterated buffoonery as usual.eddie lee roth wrote:Both Geno Smith and Colt McCoy have been told they will start at QB this Sunday.
poizond13 wrote:I have been very bummed out, sad and shocked for most of the night
Artemis2085 wrote:so I blurt out "I love you Paul!
Atomicpunk18 wrote:You see Black Crowes music has gotten me laid multiple times.
Super Bowl XVIII - Washington Redskins 9 Los Angeles Raiders 38Crazy Levi wrote:Bottom line - bellicheck the fucking genius wins ZERO rings in his career if he never stumbles upon Tom Brady.
Joe Gibbs wins three Super Bowls with three different middling QBs - a feat never to be equaled by another coach. He's better than Bill or any of these other "won all my shit with one QB" guys.
poizond13 wrote:I have been very bummed out, sad and shocked for most of the night
Artemis2085 wrote:so I blurt out "I love you Paul!
Atomicpunk18 wrote:You see Black Crowes music has gotten me laid multiple times.
poizond13 wrote:I have been very bummed out, sad and shocked for most of the night
Artemis2085 wrote:so I blurt out "I love you Paul!
Atomicpunk18 wrote:You see Black Crowes music has gotten me laid multiple times.
HeavyMetalZombie666 wrote:Of course your asshole is going to be sore when you volunteer for an asspounding and not set any boundaries at all.
Machado owes me an apology.Machado wrote:I might not know how to flush a toilet today
"Life is like a season of Romos..you never know which one you're going to get".Bludegeon wrote:Holy shit that was a pathetic showing..
Way to be completely unprepared to play Dallas.
Fuck...
Cowboys must of thought it was already December.
HeavyMetalZombie666 wrote:Of course your asshole is going to be sore when you volunteer for an asspounding and not set any boundaries at all.
I don't think he went back for seconds.....half. He probably didn't even watch the game, had other engagements, they didn't have the game on at the mission.WhiteHouseSubsAC wrote:Hey Machado, how did that Thanksgiving asswhipping feel?
poizond13 wrote:I have been very bummed out, sad and shocked for most of the night
Artemis2085 wrote:so I blurt out "I love you Paul!
Atomicpunk18 wrote:You see Black Crowes music has gotten me laid multiple times.
I didn't get beat by any team. They did.. lol. But seriously.WhiteHouseSubsAC wrote:"Life is like a season of Romos..you never know which one you're going to get".Bludegeon wrote:Holy shit that was a pathetic showing..
Way to be completely unprepared to play Dallas.
Fuck...
Cowboys must of thought it was already December.
You guys got beat by a guy who two years ago was the laughingstock of the league. That has to feel pretty lousy.
Yes, because everyone knows that just having a great quarterback = superbowl wins. Look at piles of Superbowl trophies that Peyton Manning and Dan Marino have, for instance.Crazy Levi wrote:Bottom line - bellicheck the fucking genius wins ZERO rings in his career if he never stumbles upon Tom Brady.
Joe Gibbs wins three Super Bowls with three different middling QBs - a feat never to be equaled by another coach. He's better than Bill or any of these other "won all my shit with one QB" guys.
Can we all just agree that the Cowboys suck?veritas wrote:Yes, because everyone knows that just having a great quarterback = superbowl wins. Look at piles of Superbowl trophies that Peyton Manning and Dan Marino have, for instance.Crazy Levi wrote:Bottom line - bellicheck the fucking genius wins ZERO rings in his career if he never stumbles upon Tom Brady.
Joe Gibbs wins three Super Bowls with three different middling QBs - a feat never to be equaled by another coach. He's better than Bill or any of these other "won all my shit with one QB" guys.
You might have had a decent point if you have switched in Vinatieri for Brady.
Damn I never realized BB had that many wins, I hereby take back what I said about him not being mentioned with the others especially given the things gritt and the rest have mentioned.UtahRatt wrote:Joe Gibbs Coaching record.... 171–101–0
Bill Belichick Coaching record 225–116–0
Gibbs coached before free agency and salary caps when you could keep teams together and focus only on coaching.
Belichick did it in a era when you had to know more then X's and O's so to put down Belichick really is being a biased fanatic.
Yes. Yes we can.Crazy Levi wrote:Can we all just agree that the Cowboys suck?veritas wrote:Yes, because everyone knows that just having a great quarterback = superbowl wins. Look at piles of Superbowl trophies that Peyton Manning and Dan Marino have, for instance.Crazy Levi wrote:Bottom line - bellicheck the fucking genius wins ZERO rings in his career if he never stumbles upon Tom Brady.
Joe Gibbs wins three Super Bowls with three different middling QBs - a feat never to be equaled by another coach. He's better than Bill or any of these other "won all my shit with one QB" guys.
You might have had a decent point if you have switched in Vinatieri for Brady.
HeavyMetalZombie666 wrote:Of course your asshole is going to be sore when you volunteer for an asspounding and not set any boundaries at all.
Crazy Levi wrote:Can we all just agree that the Cowboys suck?veritas wrote:Yes, because everyone knows that just having a great quarterback = superbowl wins. Look at piles of Superbowl trophies that Peyton Manning and Dan Marino have, for instance.Crazy Levi wrote:Bottom line - bellicheck the fucking genius wins ZERO rings in his career if he never stumbles upon Tom Brady.
Joe Gibbs wins three Super Bowls with three different middling QBs - a feat never to be equaled by another coach. He's better than Bill or any of these other "won all my shit with one QB" guys.
You might have had a decent point if you have switched in Vinatieri for Brady.
Belichik is one of the all-time greats, no doubt, but it definitely helps to be in a division with the Jets, Bills, & Fins.dtmfs wrote:Damn I never realized BB had that many wins, I hereby take back what I said about him not being mentioned with the others especially given the things gritt and the rest have mentioned.
Crazy Levi wrote:Can we all just agree that the Cowboys suck?veritas wrote:Yes, because everyone knows that just having a great quarterback = superbowl wins. Look at piles of Superbowl trophies that Peyton Manning and Dan Marino have, for instance.Crazy Levi wrote:Bottom line - bellicheck the fucking genius wins ZERO rings in his career if he never stumbles upon Tom Brady.
Joe Gibbs wins three Super Bowls with three different middling QBs - a feat never to be equaled by another coach. He's better than Bill or any of these other "won all my shit with one QB" guys.
You might have had a decent point if you have switched in Vinatieri for Brady.
Comparing Gibbs to Belichick is a stretch. It's a realistic one, but I'd still call it a stretch. Gibbs sullied his reputation and resume with that half-assed return to the sidelines in the 2000s. Belichick? The only knock on him is that he hasn't one a Super Bowl without Romeo Crennel, Charlie Wiess, and Tom Brady. And this is coming from a Browns fan, so remember, he wasn't exactly "loved" here in the 90s. I have little doubt that Belichick would've won that first Super Bowl with Drew Bledsoe at the helm - that team was stacked.dtmfs wrote:Damn I never realized BB had that many wins, I hereby take back what I said about him not being mentioned with the others especially given the things gritt and the rest have mentioned.UtahRatt wrote:Joe Gibbs Coaching record.... 171–101–0
Bill Belichick Coaching record 225–116–0
Gibbs coached before free agency and salary caps when you could keep teams together and focus only on coaching.
Belichick did it in a era when you had to know more then X's and O's so to put down Belichick really is being a biased fanatic.
LouDoo wrote:Neon has to be the most active poster who actually contributes the least, despite all the threads he starts. He has no redeeming value. He's completely useless.
Why? It wasn't his fault Modell moved the team, Belichick probably would have gotten the Browns their first Super Bowl if it wasn't for Modell.Tymaster wrote: And this is coming from a Browns fan, so remember, he wasn't exactly "loved" here in the 90s. I have little doubt that Belichick would've won that first Super Bowl with Drew Bledsoe at the helm - that team was stacked.
Machado owes me an apology.Machado wrote:I might not know how to flush a toilet today
How in god's name did Gibbs sully his reputation?!Tymaster wrote:
Comparing Gibbs to Belichick is a stretch. It's a realistic one, but I'd still call it a stretch. Gibbs sullied his reputation and resume with that half-assed return to the sidelines in the 2000s. Belichick? The only knock on him is that he hasn't one a Super Bowl without Romeo Crennel, Charlie Wiess, and Tom Brady. And this is coming from a Browns fan, so remember, he wasn't exactly "loved" here in the 90s. I have little doubt that Belichick would've won that first Super Bowl with Drew Bledsoe at the helm - that team was stacked.
Machado owes me an apology.Machado wrote:I might not know how to flush a toilet today
Ryp threw a gorgeous deep ball. And if you watch the highlights of that amazing 1991 season, those receivers are open by a mile, and he's got eternity behind that line.Gritt wrote:The year they won it with Rypien he played as well as any quarterback had played up to that point. He had to have made some kind of deal with the devil. Although throwing to Sanders, Clark, and Monk never hurt.
Machado owes me an apology.Machado wrote:I might not know how to flush a toilet today
