Any Love For The College Game?

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:33 am

NeverSurrender wrote:Please go back and see where I told all you clowns you were overrating the SEC Especially Dave, with his "8 years ago" bullshit.

Alabama may very well have the best team once again, but it doesn't make the SEC as good as the honks or ESPN will have you believe.

The SEC was 0-4 against the ACC yesterday.

So overrated that it took you a full month before you had anything to use in a response to this thread.

BodyBagz · Post by **BodyBagz** » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:16 pm

NeverSurrender wrote:Please go back and see where I told all you clowns you were overrating the SEC Especially Dave, with his "8 years ago" bullshit.

Alabama may very well have the best team once again, but it doesn't make the SEC as good as the honks or ESPN will have you believe.

The SEC was 0-4 against the ACC yesterday.

Well, to be fair, the AP, Coaches and the CFP all agree that Alabama does in fact, have the best team in the nation...this is the 7th year in a row that an Alabama team has managed to gain that AP rank...that aint fucking easy to do, else other teams could do it right?

The SEC East...there is a difference and anyone who watches college football knows it, between the SEC East and the SEC West...every year! Of the SEC East teams, only "perennial" powerhouse" schools are Florida and Georgia and now Mizzou...Tennessee and South Carolina tend to fade in and out...leaving Vandy and Kentucky as the bottom of the barrel. The SEC West however, you have the "perennials" of Alabama, Auburn, LSU...next level is now Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Miss State and Arkansas. Arkansas is this years weakest SEC West team, and yet they still managed to shut out back to back ranked SEC teams...God only knows what they would do against the mediocre ACC teams.

Of the 4 games played Saturday, only 1, Georgia vs Georgia Tech, was the SEC school favored to win...and had Mark Richt not called for a pooched punt, Georgia would have won that game.

I stand by this statement: concerning the SEC vs ACC...there isnt a single team in the ACC outside of maybe FSU, that would stand a chance of coming to the SEC and even competing for an SEC title, let alone a National title...but conversely, there are no less than 10 teams from the SEC who could come to the ACC and take a title run every year...Conference and National. Imagine Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Mizzou, Ole Miss, or even Arkansas...against all those ACC powerhouses...it would be a fucking bloodbath of epic proportions weekly...

BodyBagz · Post by **BodyBagz** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:50 pm

Awww shit...they did it again...

Seems the CFP Committee is making believers out of the College Football world when they said that Strength of Schedule, Quality Wins vs Quality Losses and Game Control would be factors taken into consideration...and No Team was immune...they have knocked unbeaten and Defending National Champions, Florida State University to the perilous #4 position in this weeks CFP Poll. This comes on the heel of yet another "barely won against a lackluster opponent" in Florida.
A misstep by FSU in this weekends ACC Championship against Georgia Tech, (winning by a margin of 6 or less), and the Seminoles could very likely be left on the outside looking in...with a 12-0 record...all because they cant maintain a good game plan.

Heres the Top 5...
#1 Alabama Crimson Tide
#2 Oregon
#3 Texas Christian
#4 Florida State
#5 Ohio State

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:26 pm

And if Baylor beats Arizona State, Ohio State and Florida State both lose, they jump into the playoff. Even if Florida St. does win but does so like they have won all season...and Baylor has a statement win, they may jump them anyway.

Tenacious_Dio · Post by **Tenacious_Dio** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:18 am

There is no way in hell an undefeated Florida State team gets left out of the playoff.

Redman77 · Post by **Redman77** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:23 am

Tenacious_Dio wrote:There is no way in hell an undefeated Florida State team gets left out of the playoff.

Exactly, especially being the defending champs.

BodyBagz · Post by **BodyBagz** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:19 pm

Tenacious_Dio wrote:There is no way in hell an undefeated Florida State team gets left out of the playoff.

Are you sure? Let Ohio State blow the wheels off Wisconsin (hang 17 or more and shut down Melvin Gordon)...and let FSU carry Georgia Tech late into the 4th quarter and win by 6 or less (God help them if the get pushed into overtime)...the Seminoles are on the brink right now....they have been leapfrogged 2 spots already...it could happen again.

If FSU wants to guarantee themselves a spot, then they need to beat Georgia Tech...all 4 quarters, and win by 12 points or more. It also would help them if Oregon or Alabama were to get beaten in their Conference Championships. They will get a bit of help when the Big 12 names TCU and Baylor as Co-Champions...head to head should then come into play, and TCU should fall due to losing to Baylor early in the season...

Tenacious_Dio · Post by **Tenacious_Dio** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:29 pm

BodyBagz wrote:
Tenacious_Dio wrote:There is no way in hell an undefeated Florida State team gets left out of the playoff.
Are you sure?

100% positive.

The committee has been catching all kinds of hell today for bumping TCU above FSU. There's no way they're up for the shitstorm that would follow bouncing them from the top 4.

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:41 pm

Redman77 wrote:
Tenacious_Dio wrote:There is no way in hell an undefeated Florida State team gets left out of the playoff.
Exactly, especially being the defending champs.

Defending champs was last year. That has nothing to do with this season. But in some ways, if you want to base this year off of last year's results, then FSU has SERIOUSLY underachieved. Winston should have been a shoe-in for his second Heisman but he's not even in consideration.

I still agree that if they beat GT, they should be in it. A win is a win...sorta. They haven't played a strong schedule and the only dominating win they have had was against a Wake Forrest team who only won three games this season.

So while they have won, they haven't been nearly as complete and dominating as ANY of the other teams in the top five or six. So I agree with BodyBagz, if they play like shit again and barely pull out a win and the other teams mop up...FSU could very well be on the outside looking in.

BodyBagz · Post by **BodyBagz** » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:04 pm

Tenacious_Dio wrote:
BodyBagz wrote:
Tenacious_Dio wrote:There is no way in hell an undefeated Florida State team gets left out of the playoff.
Are you sure?
100% positive.

The committee has been catching all kinds of hell today for bumping TCU above FSU. There's no way they're up for the shitstorm that would follow bouncing them from the top 4.

The Committee has been catching shit since the 1st poll...then they caught more when TCU got the bump instead of Baylor, then when they jumped Oregon over FSU, Then Alabama over Oregon...and now jumping TCU over FSU. This committee has said repeatedly that last year doesnt matter...its all about this years play...quality wins and quality losses. While FSU hasnt lost a game, their quality of wins is lacking...their 12 games been won by a combined average of 12.5 points...if we take the highest (43-3) & lowest (20-17) out, that goes to 9.8...against one of the weakest schedules in the Div 1...that can not, nor has it been ignored by the CFP Committee.

This is not the same FSU of last year...be it Jameis Winston has lost focus, or maybe their opponents have gotten better, or whatever...they are not playing to the same level...and using last year as a measuring stick is most likely hurting them as opposed to helping them this year as far as the CFP is concerned.

I can see them being knocked out of the Playoff if they dont beat GT soundly and if Ohio State mauls Wisconsin by double digits with their 3rd quarterback this year in his 1st start. The stats dont lie, a win metric of only 9.8 points against a weak schedule is bad, its even worse when its the Defending National Champs and the previous years Heisman winner...

Tenacious_Dio · Post by **Tenacious_Dio** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:44 am

We'll see.

johnk5150 · Post by **johnk5150** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:43 am

BodyBagz wrote:
Tenacious_Dio wrote:There is no way in hell an undefeated Florida State team gets left out of the playoff.
Are you sure? Let Ohio State blow the wheels off Wisconsin (hang 17 or more and shut down Melvin Gordon)...and let FSU carry Georgia Tech late into the 4th quarter and win by 6 or less (God help them if the get pushed into overtime)...the Seminoles are on the brink right now....they have been leapfrogged 2 spots already...it could happen again.

If FSU wants to guarantee themselves a spot, then they need to beat Georgia Tech...all 4 quarters, and win by 12 points or more. It also would help them if Oregon or Alabama were to get beaten in their Conference Championships. They will get a bit of help when the Big 12 names TCU and Baylor as Co-Champions...head to head should then come into play, and TCU should fall due to losing to Baylor early in the season...

When is the last time FSU covered a spread?

BodyBagz · Post by **BodyBagz** » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:01 pm

johnk5150 wrote:
BodyBagz wrote:
Tenacious_Dio wrote:There is no way in hell an undefeated Florida State team gets left out of the playoff.
Are you sure? Let Ohio State blow the wheels off Wisconsin (hang 17 or more and shut down Melvin Gordon)...and let FSU carry Georgia Tech late into the 4th quarter and win by 6 or less (God help them if the get pushed into overtime)...the Seminoles are on the brink right now....they have been leapfrogged 2 spots already...it could happen again.

If FSU wants to guarantee themselves a spot, then they need to beat Georgia Tech...all 4 quarters, and win by 12 points or more. It also would help them if Oregon or Alabama were to get beaten in their Conference Championships. They will get a bit of help when the Big 12 names TCU and Baylor as Co-Champions...head to head should then come into play, and TCU should fall due to losing to Baylor early in the season...

When is the last time FSU covered a spread?

To be honest with you, I couldnt tell you...but I would be willing to bet that around game 5 or 6, the bookies started dropping the lines....

Anybody who has laid down a large sum of mo0ney on FSU has been betting with their hearts, not their brains. I would have laid off of them after the Notre Dame game myself. Hell, I bleed Crimson and White, and I wouldnt normally bet on Alabama on a large point spread...shit goes sideways too damn often in College ball...

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:49 pm

Well Oregon put a big ass exclamation point on their season, didn't they?

BodyBagz · Post by **BodyBagz** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:14 pm

DaveB wrote:Well Oregon put a big ass exclamation point on their season, didn't they?

Well, it was really a forgone conclusion that Oregon would wipe Arizona out in this game....it was almost a fluke that Arizona won the first time around.

We can call it now though, after this point spread, Marcus Mariota is the 2014 Heisman Trophy winner!

Machado · Post by **Machado** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:33 am

Any chance FSU loses today? I can see that happenng. Might be about time the FSU
luck runs out this weekend. Nothing would make the committee happier. Having FSU lose
today would allow the commitee to leave FSU out of the picture with the 1 loss.

Today I can also see Baylor winning. The signs today on ESPN Gameday were instant classics.
Why the committee fails to recognize Baylor defeated TCU earlier this years proves the commitee and playoff system is very corrupt.

BodyBagz · Post by **BodyBagz** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:40 pm

Well, like other games this season, it might not have been sexy, but it was a win none the less...2014 SEC Champions, Alabama Crimson Tide...heading in as the #1 seed in the Inaugural College Football Playoff...Roll Tide Roll...

eddie lee roth · Post by **eddie lee roth** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:00 pm

I hope to hell Bob Stoops has felt guilty when he's collected his paychecks this year.

Anne_Thrax · Post by **Anne_Thrax** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:46 pm

I need Tech to beat FSU right now

BodyBagz · Post by **BodyBagz** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:32 pm

Out of the 4 Conference Championships played today/tonight, is anyone surprised that FSU only managed to win by 2 points?

I dont think the CFP will skip them, but, I am confident that if Alabama remains #1, they will smash them in the semi-final if they remain #4....

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:36 pm

BodyBagz wrote:Out of the 4 Conference Championships played today/tonight, is anyone surprised that FSU only managed to win by 2 points?

No surprise at all.

But I tell ya, it's not official but seems that the media are absolutely DYING to get OSU in the playoffs. And while I was impressed with their win today...there's NO FUCKING WAY that they deserve to jump TCU. Granted, OSU played a much better team and did so with a third string QB, TCU had a pretty impressive win. With that logic, you just need to boot FSU out altogether because of the quality of wins that they've had and put both OSU and TCU in. Won't happen but OSU doesn't deserve to jump TCU.

UtahRatt · Post by **UtahRatt** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:54 am

All I want for xmas is for someone to spank Bama and that bitch lane kiffin.
After Auburn embarrassed them last year they just couldn't hang on in the 4th to finish it off. Fuck the Tampon Tide.

No clue how this new system works but seen Nebraska's possible Bowl game! TaxSlayer Bowl/Franklin American Mortgage Music City.....Say that three times fast....TaxSlayer Bowl/Franklin American Mortgage Music City.

Mike Riley leaving Oregon State and taking over Nebraska sounds like nothing to look forward too. I'd rather lose then have Kiffin back.

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:30 am

Funny how we thought that a four team playoff would settle things and here we are with six legit teams that should be in. Although while I'm glad that they created at least some kind of playoff, it really should be eight teams. We may see that in another 150 years.

I'm an SEC guy through and through but I tell ya, I think Oregon may be the strongest team right now.

UtahRatt · Post by **UtahRatt** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:46 am

It's still a joke.

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:18 am

I swear to God, if I hear one more FSU fan spout off about what they did LAST year, I'm gonna fucking snap!!!

GOD DAMN!!! People...your unbeaten season LAST YEAR doesn't mean SHIT! Your National Championship LAST YEAR doesn't mean SHIT! I guess Winston should get the Heisman again because he won it LAST year, right?

FUCK!!!!

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:54 am

And there you have it. TCU gets fucked for doing exactly what they were supposed to do...win.

Oh well...at least I get to see FSU get pummeled by Oregon.

eddie lee roth · Post by **eddie lee roth** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:12 am

Even though it has nothing to do with the playoff OU pissed me off so bad I'm sorta glad the Big 12 has been left out. Don't bother asking me to explain myself I know it's irrational but I'm pissed so I don't have to make sense.

DaveB got a few questions for you. Couldn't you just as easy say Baylor got fucked over instead of TCU since Baylor won the head to head?

I actually agree with ya about FSU for the most part and understand where you're coming from on the whole last season's record don't mean shit.

But this is where College difers somewhat from the pro's IMO. I've never heard of the defending national champions not get the respect the following year unless they lost a good portion of their team to the draft.

And yes that includes your Bama team too. For the record I think Oregon has got it going on pretty good with their match up. And I'll take the Tide for it all.

There can be no doubt that Urban Meyer is the coach of the year.

BodyBagz · Post by **BodyBagz** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:39 pm

My thoughts...would have been here sooner to post, but I have been traveling to Ohio today.

The CFP got it right for the most part...as much as I dont like Urban Myer and the Buckeyes, they were the natural selection since the Big 12 were ignorant by not declaring a Champion....and that Champion should have been Baylor. Baylor beat TCU, that should have been the deciding factor for Champion selection...anywhere else, any other sport, and thats what would have happened. Instead, the Big 12 just fucked 2 teams out of a playoff really.

I have no problem with FSU getting in...they deserve it if for only going 12-0...regardless of the ease of their schedule or the "barely getting by" wins, they are undefeated. I only wished they would have left them at #4 so that Alabama could have shown them what a full-on 60 minute bloodbath can look like. I have no doubt that Landon Collins, A`shawn Robinson and Tre DePriest would have ran him fucking ragged and got him out of his comfort zone. I also believe that FSU`s defense has nothing to put up against the air game of Sims, Cooper and White, let alone the running game from Yeldon & Henry...it would have been a great fucking game.

As far as Alabama vs Ohio State...this should be a fairly equal game. OSU will have their 3rd string QB, Cardale Jones in, but he seemed to rise up against Wisconsin, so there could be some instaces of them burning Alabama in the secondary like Auburn and Mizzou did. OSU`s defense though, is not quite up to par with Alabama`s offense if Blake Sims stays calm and doesnt lose focus, something he does at times(3 interceptions vs Auburn, 2 fumbles vs Mizzou).

My predictions:

Alabama over OSU - 45 - 27
Oregon over FSU - 52 - 35

Alabama over Oregon - 42 - 38

DaveB · Post by **DaveB** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:08 pm

eddie lee roth wrote:
DaveB got a few questions for you. Couldn't you just as easy say Baylor got fucked over instead of TCU since Baylor won the head to head?

There can be no doubt that Urban Meyer is the coach of the year.

Yeah, I agree that Baylor got fucked more because of the head to head. And ultimately, I guess I have to agree with the final four as well. OSU probably is a better team than TSU or Baylor but my issue is that five days ago, the committee thought that TSU was better than Florida State, Baylor AND Ohio State. Now, it's like they said, "Ha...just kidding." If they thought that OSU were a better team, then they should have ranked them accordingly WEEKS ago and not tossed up the way they did at the end.

I think that TCU and Baylor ultimately got penalized for not having a championship game and, in all honesty, not being Ohio State. Let's face it, OSU means more dollar signs.

And yeah, Meyers is definitely coach of the year.

eddie lee roth · Post by **eddie lee roth** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:51 pm

Oklahoma didn't help TCU or Baylor yesterday too.

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