The NFL Thread

[NeverSurrender]

The Vikings have never won a Super Bowl

i agree. Sounds like you agree that was a worthless post.

[Crazy Levi]

The Vikings have never won a Super Bowl

i agree. Sounds like you agree that was a worthless post.

Aren't they all worthless? I mean, who is tallying this shit up?

I enjoy fucked-with wiki entries so I put it up there. Hopefully the thread can recover.

[bane]

anyone want to bet

Colts vs Jets?

i will take Colts!


week 6, going great
Jets 2-4
Broncos 2-4

The Jets played their asses off last night, but if the Colts can play like they did in that second half Sunday, NY may be in for another long day.

[bane]

The Vikings have never won a Super Bowl

i agree. Sounds like you agree that was a worthless post.

Aren't they all worthless? I mean, who is tallying this shit up?

I enjoy fucked-with wiki entries so I put it up there. Hopefully the thread can recover.

I got a chuckle out of it. The real question should be, why the hell were you looking at a kicker's wiki page in the first place?

[Crazy Levi]

I got a chuckle out of it. The real question should be, why the hell were you looking at a kicker's wiki page in the first place?

Because the Skins just signed this guy and I've never heard of him. Now I know he's not old and has won the Lou Groza award, just like a half-dozen other kickers the Skins have cut.

They Redskins have had 19 kickers since 1994...46 percent more kickers than any other nfl team.

[bigbuttskinner]

I worked 12 hours Sunday so I missed every game. When I came home and got caught up, my first thought was P13 is going to be all over this thread talking shit to his detractors about the Colts win and RGIII going down.

Suprisingly he has been very calm about it considering the shit he has gotten.

Everyone saw what happened on Sunday. The results speak for themselves. I made a few posts about it and that's all that's needed. Some things are more important than gloating on an internet message board. I don't need to start threads exclaiming how right I was and how wrong everyone else was, because that's what a troll would do. See: crazylevy's "mark my words" thread. I've always tried to exude more class than that.

The important part about getting that win wasn't gloating on a message board, it was about Mr. Irsay being able to take that game ball straight to the man who needs it and deserves it more than anyone, Chuck Pagano. If that win helped uplift his spirits one bit, then it's one of the most meaningful wins I've ever seen. That transcends football. That's real life.

There's no game I love more than football, and that game yesterday reminded me why it is the best game in the world. I know this team is going on to greatness and big things in the next few years. But I have a feeling no matter what, the COLTS will never forget this game. We'll all look back and say this was the start of something truly special.

You posted nothing that you thought of yourself. You took what Chris Berman, Tom Jackson, Rich Eisen, Tony Dungy, and countless others said and made their words your own. You don't give a fuck about Pagano so don't try to convince us. You're just 100% Colts and all in, so if anything good/bad happens you take a pro-Colts stance and to hell with any due process.

[bane]

I got a chuckle out of it. The real question should be, why the hell were you looking at a kicker's wiki page in the first place?

Because the Skins just signed this guy and I've never heard of him. Now I know he's not old and has won the Lou Groza award, just like a half-dozen other kickers the Skins have cut.

They Redskins have had 19 kickers since 1994...46 percent more kickers than any other nfl team.

That's more than one per season. That's a lot of kickers man.

[poizond13]

anyone want to bet

Colts vs Jets?

i will take Colts!


week 6, going great
Jets 2-4
Broncos 2-4

The Jets played their asses off last night, but if the Colts can play like they did in that second half Sunday, NY may be in for another long day.

That really was a tale of two halfs. Hard to really explain, but the team looked out of it for the first two quarters. They played uninspired, couldn't do anything on offense, and couldn't stop anything GB was doing. It looked like it would get out of hand quick. But a different team came out in the 2nd half. There were no major adjustments or changes. Players just stepped up and took it upon themselves to do their jobs. One play led to another. Powers picked off Rodgers. We started finally getting consistent pressure on Rodgers. And Reggie Wayne had one of the best games of his career, along with Luck making some truly great plays and not making many mistakes. It's like Coach Dungy always said, when things aren't going right, you don't need to change what you're doing and try to go in a completely different direction. It's about focusing on doing your job, getting the little things right, and playing with the right mind set. That's exactly what happened on Sunday and it was special to watch.

We have a really young team and I don't expect them to have that kind of consistent effort game in and game out. This week will be a tough game on the road against a good defensive team that's hungry for a win. It won't be easy, but if we play to our capabilities, it's a very winnable game. There's no such thing as an easy game in the NFL, but I do like the look of our schedule over the next five games:

@ Jets
Cleveland Browns
@ Tennessee Titans
Miami Dolphins
@ Jacksonville Jaguars

[NeverSurrender]

I can't recall a barefoot kicker that played for the Redskins.

[bane]

There's no such thing as an easy game in the NFL, but I do like the look of our schedule over the next five games:

@ Jets
Cleveland Browns
@ Tennessee Titans
Miami Dolphins
@ Jacksonville Jaguars

NY will be a tough game and Miami is a whole lot better than anyone thought they'd be, but otherwise, that's a pretty easy run.

[Luminiferous]

When did Winston claim all "70,000 were cheering?" he never said that.

Actually I heard it loud and clear when he called the media over..

“We are athletes, OK? We are athletes. We are not gladiators. This is not the Roman Coliseum,” Winston said after Sunday’s loss to the Baltimore Ravens at Arrowhead Stadium.

“It’s 100 percent sickening,” Winston added. “If he’s not the best quarterback, he’s not the best quarterback, and that’s OK. But he’s a person. And he got knocked out in a game and we’ve got 70,000 people cheering that he got knocked out.”


Personally I'm impressed with Winston's obvious overlooked talent of knowing the exact percentage of fans cheering for the injury to Cassel and the other percentage of fans cheering for whatever else was going on in that game.

The guy can actually pick out 700 or 7000 fans (oh and the team they were fans of) who were cheering the injury over what the other 60,000 of the crowd were cheering about.. The guy is good!

Actually I think Greg should start taking Winston to Poison/Def Leppard shows and he can vouch for how many actually cheered and were there for Poison and how many were there for Def Leppard..

I also think the Chiefs should use his talent more.. Have all the fans write a number on the back of their tickets and when the team scores a touchdown have Winston say how many were cheering the actual touchdown and the fan with the closest guess wins like two free tickets to the next game!

Seriously, the guy should have chosen his words better.. It's allright to call out assholes he may have heard cheering and jeering Cassel on the injury.. "Hey I think it was really tacky for those fans who cheered Matt getting hurt. That sucks! You that were doing it should be ashamed."
Not accuse the entire stadium full of fans for the stupidity.. Without those fans and their cash, they're closed for business.

[sin]

Someone's got to say it, so I guess I will be the bad guy. I don't want anyone to have a season or life altering injury. Darrius Heyward-Bay being a good example. I dont care for the Raiders but when I saw that hit I didn't change channels until I knew he wasn't paralyzed and was going to be okay.

But when John Skelton got hurt in game 1 against Seattle and Kolb came back to win the game, I did think "damn why couldn't that have happened to Wilson."

Someone you don't like at work gets fired you don't worry about how they will pay the bills, it's human nature. I hope Cassel is fine and I am sure most KC fans do too. But it's an instinctive reaction in an emotional situation like a football game.

[demolition23]

Someone you don't like at work gets fired you don't worry about how they will pay the bills, it's human nature. I hope Cassel is fine and I am sure most KC fans do too. But it's an instinctive reaction in an emotional situation like a football game.

It's a childish emotional reaction by a bunch of self-centered fuckers who think buying a ticket gives them a right to more than a seat in the stadium. Yeah, Cassel ain't great, but has he ever garnered a reputation for being an asshole, or a guy who doesn't do the work during the week? Not to my knowledge.

[Luminiferous]

Someone you don't like at work gets fired you don't worry about how they will pay the bills, it's human nature. I hope Cassel is fine and I am sure most KC fans do too. But it's an instinctive reaction in an emotional situation like a football game.

It's a childish emotional reaction by a bunch of self-centered fuckers who think buying a ticket gives them a right to more than a seat in the stadium. Yeah, Cassel ain't great, but has he ever garnered a reputation for being an asshole, or a guy who doesn't do the work during the week? Not to my knowledge.

Nah.. To my knowledge Cassel's pretty active in the KC community and several charities. He also lives there, doesn't just come in for football like a lot of the team..

Sad thing is, Cassel getting hurt was inevitable.. Horrible O line protection all season so far. The reason he had a great season in NE was due to their O line, something KC is sorely lacking.. How long before Quinn takes a vicious hit?

I agree on the idiots cheering an injury. It's no secret I'm not a big fan of Brady, Peyton or Vick and I would cheer a sack, but I sure as hell wouldn't cheer an injury on any of them..

[johnk5150]

Why in the HELL are the Bears talking extension with Smith when he still has a season and a half left on his deal? They've made the playoffs exactly once in the last five years. Jesus.

[bane]

Anybody got a spare pro bowl caliber middle linebacker with intact ACLs lying around that the Texans can borrow for a few months?

[Facedown]

Alex Karras has passed away at 77.

[NeverSurrender]

Why in the HELL are the Bears talking extension with Smith when he still has a season and a half left on his deal? They've made the playoffs exactly once in the last five years. Jesus.

Black coaches are harder to get rid off. How do you think Sherman Lewis held his job so long?

[johnk5150]

Awesome. The founder of the league was guilty of it too.

By Bill Dwyre

October 9, 2012
There they were Sunday night, during the televised NFL game, their pictures flashed to a nation of TV viewers, with penalties incurred listed below.

They were three known New Orleans Saints evildoers. They might just as well have been on the wall of a post office:

--Sean Payton, Saints head coach, suspended for the season.

Bill Dwyre

They were the core of the New Orleans bounty hunters, the men who un-Saintly created or allowed their players to pool money and award it to those who knocked key opponents out of games. The more serious and lasting the injury, the bigger the wad of cash.

The public was horrified.

OK, the public outside of New Orleans probably didn't care much. You can't underestimate the amount of time NFL fans spend dwelling on social injustice. Nor can you overestimate how much they embrace the fact that their game has several thugs, to go along with its many wonderful athletes.

After all, isn't the NFL about hitting and being hit? Don't those who do that best make more money and end up more on ESPN? And isn't that what sports, all sports, are about these days? Getting on ESPN?

But we digress.

Commissioner Roger Goodell's scorched-earth response to Bountygate was understandable in terms of public relations and legal positioning. He is paid as much money as a 1,000-yard running back to be astute at heading off perceived public outcries. He should not be criticized, nor is he here, for being slick, wearing matching ties and always being politically correct.

Nor was the media incorrect when the Great NFL Puppeteer in the matching tie yanked typists and microphone speakers to attention. Outrage dripped. Rants reverberated. Sadly, the newspaper lead that was perhaps most germane and never written would have read: "The NFL, which has promoted, nurtured and thrived on thugs for centuries, announced Monday that it now has irrefutable evidence they exist."

All this brought a chuckle the other day from Fred "Curly" Morrison, who started telling stories, as is his tendency, over a bowl of spaghetti.

Morrison's stories have credibility because they come from somebody who has, when it comes to the NFL, been there and done that. He was an All-American at Ohio State, a Pro Bowl-level performer in his seven years in the NFL with the Chicago Bears and Cleveland Browns, a Rose Bowl Hall of Fame member, and a network commentator and sales executive involved in the first network rights fees (CBS) of the NFL. He was also general manager of the L.A. Express in the ill-fated United States Football League in the early 1980s.

Morrison turned 86 on Sunday, but the mind still goes up the middle as effectively as the body did in his playing days.

"Bounties?" Morrison snorted. "Let me tell you about bounties."

It is suddenly the early 1950s, when Morrison was the Bears' fullback.

"We played the Chicago Cardinals in one of our last games of the '50 season," Morrison says. "But we were in the playoffs and all our attention is on the Rams, who ended up beating us in the first round. The next season, one of our first games is with the Cardinals and George Halas gets out the game film of the year before. Nobody had looked at it. It goes on. We are bored until we get to the last play of the game. Halas shouts for the tape to be stopped.

"He plays it back, again and again. We had run a reverse. Our Ed Sprinkle got a great block on one of the Cardinals and then we see Charley Trippi, Cardinals running back, bend over Sprinkle, who was down on all fours, and punch him out. Smashed his nose. Knocked him out.

"Halas is furious. He yells for the lights to be turned on. He talks about how he has always had respect for Trippi, but he will not tolerate that kind of play.

"Then he says, 'I will give $50, cash, to the first player who takes out Trippi."

The first NFL bounty? Does Goodell have retroactive powers?

Morrison says the Bears chased Trippi for the entire game, and, to his memory, nobody got to the future Hall of Fame member. He says four years later, when he was with the Browns, the Detroit Lions' Jim David came into a pile knees first and took out one of their young running backs.

"We were out for payback the rest of the game," Morrison says, "but Otto Graham [Browns quarterback] kept telling us to wait until the end. On the last play, he said it was time, that he would roll out one way and we could go after David.

"But David saw us coming, took off down the sideline, around the goal posts and into the locker room. We never caught him. When Paul Brown [Browns coach] got into the locker room, he lambasted us about ruining the image of the Browns."

David's nickname was "the Hatchet." Morrison says, "For all I know, he is still running." Google says he stopped in 2007, when he died at 79.

Sprinkle had two nicknames: "The Meanest Man in the NFL" and "the Claw." Google says he is 89 and Trippi is 90.

Morrison says he loves the NFL, hates what it has done to many of his friends, whose injuries and brain damage make their later lives miserable, and, although not condoning it, laughs off this bounty stuff.

His message is simple. His game has never been mistaken, nor will it ever be, for ballet

[johnk5150]

Why in the HELL are the Bears talking extension with Smith when he still has a season and a half left on his deal? They've made the playoffs exactly once in the last five years. Jesus.

Black coaches are harder to get rid off. How do you think Sherman Lewis held his job so long?

That's just the Bengals though. You'd do as good a job coaching those asses.

[NeverSurrender]

I think it is harder to fire black coaches. Just my opinion. And Lovie is a class act too and he went to a super Bowl.

RIP, Alex Karras.

[Machado]

Anybody got a spare pro bowl caliber middle linebacker with intact ACLs lying around that the Texans can borrow for a few months?

That play was b.s. How can the o-line get away with such a dirty play?
Where is the NFL on this matter and why hasn't that play been ruled illegal?

I'm not a fan of the Texans, but even I can see with my own 2 eyes that
play is dirty and should be banned.

The NFL preaches player safety, but they could really give 2 shits about
the players safety.

[johnk5150]

Anybody got a spare pro bowl caliber middle linebacker with intact ACLs lying around that the Texans can borrow for a few months?

That play was b.s. How can the o-line get away with such a dirty play?
Where is the NFL on this matter and why hasn't that play been ruled illegal?

I'm not a fan of the Texans, but even I can see with my own 2 eyes that
play is dirty and should be banned.

The NFL preaches player safety, but they could really give 2 shits about
the players safety.

Pretty much. Nobody has a more hypocritical spin machine like this league.

[bane]

Edit. Double post

[bane]

Anybody got a spare pro bowl caliber middle linebacker with intact ACLs lying around that the Texans can borrow for a few months?

That play was b.s. How can the o-line get away with such a dirty play?
Where is the NFL on this matter and why hasn't that play been ruled illegal?

I'm not a fan of the Texans, but even I can see with my own 2 eyes that
play is dirty and should be banned.

The NFL preaches player safety, but they could really give 2 shits about
the players safety.

Pretty much. Nobody has a more hypocritical spin machine like this league.

The Texans cut block as a major part of their scheme, so I think it would be really hypocritical to make much of an issue of that one. They do it legally, and that one sure wasn't, but shit happens.
I expect Klausen to get a slap on the wrist fine for it, but it won't bring Cushing back.

[WTF]

Fucking guys on kickoff teams that are 50 yards away from the play get flagged for blocks in the back. BUt this doesn't get called?

[Luminiferous]

Alex Karras has passed away at 77.

Just watched a movie last night with him in it.. Against All Odds.

RIP Mongo...

[Crazy Levi]

I think it is harder to fire black coaches. Just my opinion. And Lovie is a class act too and he went to a super Bowl.
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I don't buy that at all. It's certainly easier to get rid of black coaches than white coaches.

For Christ's sake, how else can you explain the endless employment of Norv Turner?

[Facedown]

NFL reissues saints bounty penalties, unchanged.

Unchanged? Wrong again, troll.

[poizond13]

Your AFC offensive player of the week is REGGIE WAYNE!!

Didn't Levy say last year that Reggie was done and Pierre Garcon was better?