The NFL Thread

[bane]

Cutler himself said the hit was clean. I agree with him. The league office agrees too. What was Suh supposed to do? It was a clean sack with an unfortunate result. That's football.

[Crazy Levi]

"A Suh. What u did to Jay wasn't cool. Great players don't have to do that," Marshall tweeted after the Bears' 13-7 win over the Detroit Lions at Soldier Field. "A Suh. Something I've learned and now passing down to you. Succeed with character."

Suh definitely used a leg whip on Cutler.
I thought the play was dirty.
Anybody else???

Nah, looked fine to me.

[Facedown]

The only thing that could be borderline was the forearm to the neck driving him down.

[NeverSurrender]

Bears plus 13 on takeaways.

This is fun again.

Suh is a BEAST.

The Lions dominated and deserved to win.

The Lions are back where they belong after half a good season.

I never claimed a Lions victory over Chicago, but its a bit early for a Vikings fan to be gloating after winning a close one over the Lions. Will the Vikings make the play offs, probably will the Lions NO. But theres still one more game to be played.

I'm not talking about the Lions fans here, bro. You're cool. It was a couple of idiots from another board.

And the Vikes could implode any day. If they do i won't claim they deserved to wins because thhey had more passing yards

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ng-in-nfl/

[johnk5150]

The only thing that could be borderline was the forearm to the neck driving him down.

Its a violent game. Jay knows that.

[sin]

The Lions this year are alot like the 2010 team. Alot of talent that could be good. Considering last year they were good it's a step backwards.

Johnson has the Madden curse thing going against him, plus he just got paid, something that seems to be as much of a curse as the Madden cover.

I will give them 4 more wins this year. Maybe one against Green Bay. I will make the prediction that they will beat Seattle this weekend 20-16 Assuming Wilson is the QB for Seattle.

Congrats to the Bears D I don't think I have ever seen Stafford have to run for his life like that in anyother game.

[Redman77]

Suh definitely used a leg whip on Cutler.
I thought the play was dirty.
Anybody else???

Fucking pansy.

[johnk5150]

Suh was playing football. Cutler has no problem with the hit. Except he's sore as shit.

[johnk5150]

http://profootballmock.com/nfl-qbs-on-f ... -stafford/

It's called the black and blue division because I get to fall on you with my big black ass then laugh until I'm blue in the face.

[johnk5150]

Detroit doesn't have an offensive touchdown in the first half this season.

[Redman77]

Detroit doesn't have an offensive touchdown in the first half this season.

[Machado]

Dallas Cowboys LB Sean Lee
has been placed on the IR with a toe injury

[johnk5150]

Documentary on the only game that mattered to me in my early twenties.

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/10/22/nfl- ... ecmo-bowl/

1:30 central today. Set your dvrs.

[Facedown]

Jesus.
Patriots CB Devin McCourty has won the AFC Special Teams Player Of The Week.

[Machado]

Documentary on the only game that mattered to me in my early twenties.

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/10/22/nfl- ... ecmo-bowl/

1:30 central today. Set your dvrs.

thanks for the message.
i'll set the dvr to record the program.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

Documentary on the only game that mattered to me in my early twenties.

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/10/22/nfl- ... ecmo-bowl/

1:30 central today. Set your dvrs.

thanks for the message.
i'll set the dvr to record the program.

good to know.

[WTF]

Jesus.
Patriots CB Devin McCourty has won the AFC Special Teams Player Of The Week.

Well, we won't be seeing him win Defensive Player of the Week honors anytime soon. Kind of weird that a guy can have a nearly crippling fumble and still get that honor though...

[NeverSurrender]

John, you should always have NFL set to record, n matter the subject.

RIP, Steve Sabol.

[Facedown]

Say it isn't so.....most overrated player as voted by NFL players? Tim Tebow with 34%

Sorry Jets, Mark Sanchez came in 2nd with 8%.

[bane]

Say it isn't so.....most overrated player as voted by NFL players? Tim Tebow with 34%

Sorry Jets, Mark Sanchez came in 2nd with 8%.

Tebow is a no brainer, but Sanchez? Don't you have to be rated before you can be over rated?

[Facedown]

I wonder how many of their teammates voted for them.

[Machado]

Top 10 Worst Current NFL contracts

1. Chris Johnson, RB, Tennessee Titans (six years, $80.96 million): This might be tough to justify after Johnson's 195-yard effort against Buffalo, but the Bills' defense has been making a lot of money for opposing players. Before Sunday's game, Johnson averaged 50.2 yards over the first six weeks. But in the first year of Johnson's contract, CJ2K was CJ1K, rushing for 1,047 yards and averaging a modest 4.0 yards per carry. Johnson's salary goes from $8 million to $10 million next year. But in a quarterback-driven league, it's tough to pay a running back like a quarterback unless he's among the league leaders.

2. Michael Vick, QB, Philadelphia Eagles (six years, $100 million): The Eagles are coming off a bye week in which Andy Reid fired defensive coordinator Juan Castillo, and he is evaluating every position. Vick is the quarterback for now, but after the so-called "Dream Team" didn't make the playoffs last season, the 3-3 start has everything under review. Reid could be in trouble if the Eagles don't make the playoffs, and that would affect Vick. He has $47.5 million coming to him in 2013-15, but the Eagles might try to get out of the deal if Reid is gone.

3. Mark Sanchez, QB, New York Jets (three years, $40.4 million): The Jets aren't "Tebowing" about this contract. Four years into his career, Sanchez is at a career-low 53.2 completion percentage and Rex Ryan has to explain weekly why he doesn't replace Sanchez with Tim Tebow. Though he was part of an AFC Championship Game participant his first two seasons, Sanchez's performance has declined with the shrinking offensive talent around him. The problem is twofold. The Jets are more than $7 million over next year's cap, and Sanchez has a $10 million guarantee in 2013. It would be hard to get rid of him.

4. Kevin Kolb, QB, Arizona Cardinals (six years, $62.1 million): The Cardinals felt so good about this deal that they stalked Peyton Manning with the idea of upgrading at quarterback. Kolb has looked no better than a backup. He's battled enough injuries that players question his toughness. John Skelton beat out Kolb for the starting job, and even though Kolb was 3-2 filling in for him, Skelton seems to be the better option for the Cardinals.

5. Matt Cassel, QB, Kansas City Chiefs (six years, $58 million): A good portion of the Kansas City crowd cheered when Cassel suffered a concussion. Cassel has recovered, but he has lost his job to Brady Quinn. This is Cassel's fourth and, most likely, last season in Kansas City. His salaries go to $7.5 million and $9 million in the final two years of his contract, but he's never completed better than 59.5 percent of his passes for better than 6.9 yards an attempt.

6. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Carolina Panthers (five years, $43 million): The coaching staff thought so much of the $8.6 million-a-year running back that he was on the field for five plays Sunday against Dallas even though he's healthy. He has 50 carries for 177 yards, which puts him on pace for a 472-yard season. The Panthers have sizable investments in two other running backs, Jonathan Stewart at $36.5 million for five years and Mike Tolbert at $10 million for four years. Oh, and by the way, Williams turns 30 next April, making him a target for release.

7. Tyson Jackson, DE, Kansas City Chiefs (five years, $56.2 million): Scott Pioli drafted Jackson with the third pick of the 2009 draft to be a mainstay in the Chiefs’ 3-4 defense. The problem is that Jackson and Glenn Dorsey come off the field when opponents go to three- and four-receiver sets. In only one game this season has Jackson been on the field for more than 40 plays. He has two sacks and 139 tackles in four seasons and his salary goes to $14.72 million next year, the final year of his contract.


8. Will Smith, DE, New Orleans Saints (six years, $60.8 million): Smith had 13 sacks in 2009, one year after signing this extension, but he's had only 14 since. The Saints struggle to pressure the quarterback. Smith is 31. He might have to restructure his deal after the season because the Saints are close to $17 million over the 2013 cap.

9. Doug Free, RT, Dallas Cowboys (six years, $48 million): Jerry Jones thought he got a steal when the Cowboys signed Free, then a left tackle, to this contract last year. The coaching staff moved him to right tackle this season, and he's struggled in the transition. Free and left tackle Tyron Smith have been among the league leaders in penalties this season, making things tough on quarterback Tony Romo.

10. Carson Palmer, QB, Oakland Raiders (four years, $43 million): The problem isn’t necessarily the salary. Starting quarterbacks make $10 million-plus. The problem is trading away first- and second-round picks to get him. Palmer has been average at best. He has 20 touchdown passes and 20 interceptions for the Raiders. Former coach Hue Jackson thought Palmer would put the Raiders over the top after some 8-8 seasons. He's been 6-10 as Oakland's starter.

[Crazy Levi]

It's so awesome to not see the Redskins on a list like this for the first time in a decade...though I guess that could change if Garcon continues his injury-plagued charge into the Redskins Free Agent Hall of Fame. It's possible he's done for the season.

[Tenacious_Dio]

6. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Carolina Panthers (five years, $43 million): The coaching staff thought so much of the $8.6 million-a-year running back that he was on the field for five plays Sunday against Dallas even though he's healthy. He has 50 carries for 177 yards, which puts him on pace for a 472-yard season. The Panthers have sizable investments in two other running backs, Jonathan Stewart at $36.5 million for five years and Mike Tolbert at $10 million for four years.

This is why the Panthers have bigger problems than Cam Newton. Overpaying for the nucleus of a 2-14 team. They will be in salary cap hell for a couple of years, at least.

[bigbuttskinner]

Anyone with Detroit city knowledge, I need some info. A friend and I are travelling to see the game on Sunday versus the Seahawks. We know very little of what's around the stadium; I've only seen one game there 5 years ago. Any suggestions or advice on parking/bar/etc? Also, apparently that night is a world series game so we're getting the hell out of town after the game, so anything pregame would be great. Thanks.

[Crazy Levi]

Christian Ponder might need to go back to college for a couple years.

I'm sure he'll turn it around at halftime.

I'm rooting for the vikes - I'm a sucker for any team that plays in a dump, and I can't fucking stand that Schiano douchebag.

[NeverSurrender]

Stick a fork in the Vikings. It's about to go downhill quick. Ponder is looking worse than Tavaris Jackson.

[Crazy Levi]

Stick a fork in the Vikings. It's about to go downhill quick. Ponder is looking worse than Tavaris Jackson.

[sin]

Stick a fork in the Vikings. It's about to go downhill quick. Ponder is looking worse than Tavaris Jackson.

That is not fucking possible! I've had the displeasure of watching him in Seattle as well. I really feel Ponder just needs some time to develope. It's like comparing Vick to Jamarcus Russell.