NFL 2011 Thread

[LAglamrocker]

Pats are not the same team in recent years. They will lose against Broncos in 2nd round


Packers will lose 1st home game, Saints lose NFC Champ game

[Tommy]

Giants were the team that had a shot at beating GB.

If they do lose it will be the SB.

[HMJ]

Pats are not the same team in recent years. They will lose against Broncos in 2nd round


Packers will lose 1st home game, Saints lose NFC Champ game

I like the radical predictions....but where does that put us? I'd much rather see Tebow overtake a name QB/team rather someone like the Niners.

[bane]

Pats are not the same team in recent years. They will lose against Broncos in 2nd round


Packers will lose 1st home game, Saints lose NFC Champ game

I don't mind the predictions. It's the guarantee. I don't see the Pats going far either. But I don't think the Tebows can beat them. I don't think anybody is beating the Pack unless it's the Saints.

[HMJ]

Oh man if I got my Saints/Pats SB...I'm calling in sick to all 3 of my jobs that week. Yeeeeeah buddy.

[bane]

Oh man if I got my Saints/Pats SB...I'm calling in sick to all 3 of my jobs that week. Yeeeeeah buddy.

You might get 1/2 your wish. I don't see how the Pats can make it with that D though.

[SkyDog112046]

Has anyone been watching the Patriots? They will not make the Superbowl with that defense. They couldn't hold huge 4th Qtr leads against shit teams, and they nearly got beat by a 4-win team last week. When they get to the playoffs they will have trouble putting up as many points against better defenses and their pathetic defense will be steamrolled by anything more than a mediocre offense.

When I say the defense is terrible, I don't just mean it is bad, I mean it is the polar opposite of the '85 Bears. It's the worst defense I've seen on a playoff bound team in 40 years of watching football and the back 7 is the worst I've ever seen. I'd take LSU's D-backs over that collection of stiffs and spare parts. They are going nowhere.

Belichick needs to take his two 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks in this years draft and USE them instead of trading them away. The four out of the first 60 picks they have need to be used on CB, OLB, DL, and deep threat WR in which ever order makes sense and the only way any of them should be traded is to move up to get a stud pass rusher. Brady's window is closing, and QBs who are asked to carry their teams typically don't fare well come late January.

[bane]

Tebow is number 3 in AFC pro bowl voting. Since Brady never plays in it and the Raper is banged up, there is a really good chance Tebow could start in the pro bowl. That 2012 Mayan thing is looking better all the time.

[Rainbow Bright]

But he's a less bearded version of Jake Plummer!

[bane]

But he's a less bearded version of Jake Plummer!

The Snake could occaisionally complete a pass in the first 3/4. I think he's more like a pasty Vince Young. I like Tebow. The hype is irritating, but I really like the way he leads his team. His intangibles are off the charts. Too bad the kid can't throw.

[poizond13]

Has anyone been watching the Patriots? They will not make the Superbowl with that defense.

Um, yeah, most people realized that around week 4. Thanks for that "breaking news."

[Crazy Levi]

I think he's more like a pasty Vince Young. .

Funny thing is I've seen Tebow make some throws. Haven't watched a whole game though, the 4th quarter of the Bears game is pretty much it.

[bane]

I think he's more like a pasty Vince Young. .

Funny thing is I've seen Tebow make some throws. Haven't watched a whole game though, the 4th quarter of the Bears game is pretty much it.

That's the thing- He can ball a bit in the 4th quarter. He looks lost the other 3. It's weird. They've got a formula: Play ball control and keep it close until the 4th quarter when the kid flips the switch and gets that monster legged kicker close enough. It's worked so far, but I don't think they can pull it off against a team that can put up points.

[HMJ]

I think he's more like a pasty Vince Young. .

Funny thing is I've seen Tebow make some throws. Haven't watched a whole game though, the 4th quarter of the Bears game is pretty much it.

his receivers drop half the damn passes! he really isn't bad at all.

[bane]

I think he's more like a pasty Vince Young. .

Funny thing is I've seen Tebow make some throws. Haven't watched a whole game though, the 4th quarter of the Bears game is pretty much it.

his receivers drop half the damn passes! he really isn't bad at all.

Have you paid attention to the spin on those passes? It's like trying to catch a frying pan.

[Facedown]

Has anyone been watching the Patriots? They will not make the Superbowl with that defense.

Um, yeah, most people realized that around week 4. Thanks for that "breaking news."

Um, yeah, most people except for one troll knew the Colts wouldn't be in the Super Bowl this year before Peyton got hurt. You should have paid attention to that "breaking news".

[SkyDog112046]

Has anyone been watching the Patriots? They will not make the Superbowl with that defense.

Um, yeah, most people realized that around week 4. Thanks for that "breaking news."

I made an honest assessment of the team that I root for. You should try it some time.

[johnk5150]

Sheesh. The Houston MASH ward continues. Brisiel played the Cinci game on a broken leg and Wade Phillips is on medical leave for two weeks. If they can keep winning, they have to be the most resilient team ever.

Please don't complaing about injuries.

Sincerely,


The Bears (you guys will be fine because you have more than 2 good players)

[johnk5150]

And the season has officially hit an all time low.

Dec 15, 2011 - Sam Hurd has a problem and it's not playing time with the Chicago Bears. According to the Dallas Morning News, Hurd was arrested on Wednesday night on federal drug charges. Hurd is a former Dallas Cowboy and the charges came out of Dallas, according to the report.

[HMJ]

johnk5150, you're starting to bum me out, dude.

[johnk5150]

johnk5150, you're starting to bum me out, dude.

I need to stop listening to local sports radio all day while working.

[bane]

Sheesh. The Houston MASH ward continues. Brisiel played the Cinci game on a broken leg and Wade Phillips is on medical leave for two weeks. If they can keep winning, they have to be the most resilient team ever.

Please don't complaing about injuries.

Sincerely,


The Bears (you guys will be fine because you have more than 2 good players)

Don't you guys have like 3 guys out? Granted, Cutler and Forte hurt, but I'll see your Cutler and Forte and raise you a Schaub, Mario Williams, A Johnson, Breisel, Leinhart, a bunch of second string DBs and linebackers and a defensive coordinator.

[johnk5150]

Sheesh. The Houston MASH ward continues. Brisiel played the Cinci game on a broken leg and Wade Phillips is on medical leave for two weeks. If they can keep winning, they have to be the most resilient team ever.

Please don't complaing about injuries.

Sincerely,


The Bears (you guys will be fine because you have more than 2 good players)

Don't you guys have like 3 guys out? Granted, Cutler and Forte hurt, but I'll see your Cutler and Forte and raise you a Schaub, Mario Williams, A Johnson, Breisel, Leinhart, a bunch of second string DBs and linebackers and a defensive coordinator.

The quanity is irrelevant. Cutler going down showed everyone exactly how shitty nine of the other ten guys in that offense really are. Forte's knee blowing up didn't help. They've converted 2 out of their last 25 3rd downs. Match that.

[Machado]

If you are looking to determine the winners and losers from Wednesday's announcement that the NFL had extended television deals with CBS, Fox and NBC, we'll make it easy for you:

Everybody wins.

Let's start with the NFL: CBS, Fox and NBC will part with a combined $3 billion annually to televise NFL football through the 2022 season. The nine-year agreements are the longest NFL television deals with its over-the-air broadcast partners, surpassing the eight-year deals signed with CBS, FOX and ABC in 1998.

The new deals commence with the 2014 season, and given the popularity of the league -- game broadcasts accounted for 23 of the 25 most-watched shows on television this fall -- the networks were more than happy to part with the coin. "Starting in early September through the second week in February, in many ways, the NFL is the dominant programming on TV," said CBS Sports chairman Sean McManus. "To try to live without it as a sports division or a network was something none of us wanted to anticipate."

The Sports Business Journal's John Ourand reported CBS's average payments will jump to $1 billion a year, a 55 percent increase from the previous deal. Fox's average rights fees jump to $1.1 billion a year -- a 48 percent increase -- and NBC's rights fees will increase to $950 million per year, a 58 percent increase.

The new agreement has some significant developments for viewers. Among them:

• CBS remains the broadcast home of the AFC, whose rights it has held since 1998. In addition, as part of the NFL's expanded flexible scheduling, CBS will now have the ability to broadcast selected games from the NFC package, the first time CBS will broadcast AFC and NFC matchups in the same season. Fox will also broadcast some games from the AFC. Details of how this "cross-flexing" will work has not been announced, but the likelihood is certain games going to a small percentage of the country will switch networks for a bigger audience.

"The addition of the NFC games is terrific for us," McManus told SI.com. "Those games have not been determined. It will be up to the NFL, but our anticipation is they will be good games that will improve the overall CBS schedule. From CBS's perspective, it means significant NFC games that have not been available to CBS in the past will now be available to us. That's of great benefits in terms of increasing our ratings."

Additionally, CBS will broadcast Super Bowl L in 2016, Super Bowl LIII in 2019 and Super Bowl LVI in 2022, along with Super Bowl XLVII in New Orleans in 2013.

• Fox remains the network home of the NFC regular-season package, and the new extension gives it the postseason rights to the NFC wild-card games, divisional playoff games, the NFC Championship Game and three Super Bowls (LI, LIV & LVII). The new deal also includes "TV everywhere" rights, which enables FOX to offer games it broadcasts and other NFL on FOX related content on FOXSports.com, tablets and other digital platforms, excluding mobile phones.

Regarding the cross-flex scheduling, Fox Sports president Eric Shanks told SI.com he did not think the flexing would have a great impact on his network. "It's capped at a small number of games, which will be determined when the schedule comes out," Shanks said. "I think what will happen is we [Fox] will give as good as we get. It's not like games come out of the NFC package and you never get anything back. You are going to get as many games as you give. It's hard to even imagine saying this but I think the cross-flex will increase the Gross Rating Points of the NFL and I think it will help everyone."

• NBC will broadcast 19 regular-season games, including 17 regular-season Sunday Night Football games, each season's opening NFL Kickoff Thursday night prime time game and the new Thanksgiving night game, which debuts in 2012. (The NFL Network formally held that game.) NBC also exchanged one of its current wild-card games for a divisional playoff game. It also gained Spanish language rights for its games to be shown on Telemundo, mun2 or with an SAP feed. As for the title game, NBC will broadcast the 2015, 2018 and 2021 Super Bowls.

Worth noting is the network will add a Sunday morning pregame show on the NBC Sports Network (currently VERSUS), giving ESPN and the NFL Network a competitor. USA Today reported NBC will also have opportunities earlier in the season to flex a Sunday afternoon game into its primetime slot.

• Three months ago, ESPN and the NFL reached an eight-year extension to keep Monday Night Football on ESPN through the 2021 season. The Sports Business Journal reported the rights agreement (which included additional content rights) was worth $1.9 billion per year, a 63 percent increase over the average price of the current deal. Wednesday's announcement now opens the possibility of ESPN grabbing a wild-card game with NBC's exchange of a wild card for divisional game. Two industry sources expected ESPN to land that game, and it likely would pay an additional fee (think major millions) for the rights to air it. Said an ESPN spokesperson: "The NFL has the option to air a postseason wild-card playoff game on ESPN, should the league decide to do so. No decision has been made."

• As for the NFL Network, the league-owned entity will expand the number of games it airs on Thursday beginning next year. The NFL has not yet announced how many games it will add, but two to four games is not out of the question. Of the 17 NFL regular-season weeks, there are eight Thursday night games.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told SI.com's Peter King last month the Thursday night package could expand "into a new network or a different package with another partner." Asked what network would be the favorite for that package -- NBC Sports Network and Turner are the networks most often cited -- Fox's Shanks said there were too many variables to handicap things at the moment.

"I don't think the NFL knows yet what that package is," Shanks said. "Is it an eight-game package, is it 12, is it 14 games? And if it's eight, where does it line up? Is a baseball [TV] deal going to get done or does a NASCAR [rights] deal get done before the Thursday night deal gets done? I think there are too many variables to figure out who is going to need what and who has already spent what by the time the Thursday package gets out to market."

[johnk5150]

The NFL allowing cable and dish network to have the red zone channel has fucked over more bars smoking bans. Directv has to be pissed.

[bane]

The quanity is irrelevant. Cutler going down showed everyone exactly how shitty nine of the other ten guys in that offense really are. Forte's knee blowing up didn't help. They've converted 2 out of their last 25 3rd downs. Match that.

I can't. Obviously one team has been resilient, the other not so much. That's my point. The amount of injury to key personel Houston has had to weather this year and the fact that they're still 10-3 is pretty admirable, don't you think? If they hadn't lost all the guys they did, I think they'd have a pretty good shot at going to the big dance, but, you play with what you've got. As it is, it's been a hella good season under the circumstances and Kubiak ought to be getting some coach of the year consideration.

[poizond13]

I have to laugh at other people complaining about their teams' injury situations. You folks have it EASY compared to what we are dealing with. We have had the most people on IR for the past two consecutive years, and it aint even close. And don't even get me started about the magnitude of players who have been out. It's nothing to be proud of, but those are the facts.

[Redman77]

I wish we could put you on the IR.

[WTF]

I have to laugh at other people complaining about their teams' injury situations. You folks have it EASY compared to what we are dealing with. We have had the most people on IR for the past two consecutive years, and it aint even close. And don't even get me started about the magnitude of players who have been out. It's nothing to be proud of, but those are the facts.

Is it true that Dwight Freeney has all of 17 tackles this year?

[Crazy Levi]

ALL teams suffer injuries. The bad ones go 0-13. The good ones win their division. The mediocre ones are the Bears.