The Never Ending MMA thread

[mullet_head]

As shocking as this fight was, I find it frustrating that it really didn't answer any question.

Could Weidman win a unanimous decision? Or maybe even submit or tko Silva? He did really good in the first round.

Could Silva keep the fight on the ground and ko Weidman? He did stuff a takedown and seemed like he could, if only he gave a shit about the fight, his opponent, the fans etc.

As much as I like Anderson Silva, I have to admit, it was great to see him get knocked out. I have wanted to see this for at least his last 4 or 5 fights. The silly-ass clowing, IMO, is disrespectful to his opponents. Its the same reason why I really like to see the Diaz Brs get the shit kicked out of them. All are great fighters, but they want to add in "WWE" type bullshit, and ultimately it takes away from their actual skills as fighters.

Conversely, I dont think Weidman stands a half-assed chance in hell of maintaining that belt for more than 1 or 2 defenses. Someone like Chael Sonnen, Rashad Evans or Lyoto Machida will beat him and take it from him...

I personally would love to see Weidman and Chris Leben go at it...Leben`s chin vs Weidmans stamina would make for a great fight I think...

The 3 you mentioned (Sonnen, Evans, Machida) have zero chance against Weidman. Sonnen because he has no striking ability whatsoever & Weidman would do the same thing to Sonnen that he did to Munoz. Evans way past his prime so that fight will never be considered. And Machida is nothing but a counter puncher & Weidman is too smart to play into his boring style of fighting. Besides nobody wants to see a Machida main event fight.
Leben? Really? That's not even worth commenting on.

I disagree with ya on Machida, he is very very difficult to take down and can actually attack you even when the opponents don't want to comit, in and out style. He lost to Bones and a shogun with knees, hardly a can.

Vitor Belfort is probably the next in line, no? He always stands a chance in the first couple of rounds.

[slash4pres]

I'd like to see Weidman vs Vitor next, and call me crazy, but I'd really love to see Nick Diaz vs. Silva at 178 catchwieght, now that the superfights with Jones and GSP are out. Nick would raise his hands and go "What, Bitch!?" and Silva would dance around, no one would throw a punch






Edited because I can't finish my sentences.

[yeahbuddy]

You guys are both right on Vitor. Unfortunately that is the absolute last fight
Dana wants to make.
My guess is after Silva clears his head, he will want his belt back &
and a rematch.
If so, I would put that on the end of year card with the Rousey fight.
Neither fighter took much punishment so there are no wounds to heal
except for Anderson's ego.

[John Simon Ritchie]

You guys are both right on Vitor. Unfortunately that is the absolute last fight
Dana wants to make.
My guess is after Silva clears his head, he will want his belt back &
and a rematch.
If so, I would put that on the end of year card with the Rousey fight.
Neither fighter took much punishment so there are no wounds to heal
except for Anderson's ego.

Yep. Silva will want to prove himself in a rematch and prove that it was a fluke. I'd like to see a rematch without the nonsense. I think Silva would take the rematch if he truly comes to handle business and actually fight.

[mullet_head]

You guys are both right on Vitor. Unfortunately that is the absolute last fight
Dana wants to make.
My guess is after Silva clears his head, he will want his belt back &
and a rematch.
If so, I would put that on the end of year card with the Rousey fight.
Neither fighter took much punishment so there are no wounds to heal
except for Anderson's ego.

Yep. Silva will want to prove himself in a rematch and prove that it was a fluke. I'd like to see a rematch without the nonsense. I think Silva would take the rematch if he truly comes to handle business and actually fight.

I'd like to see that, but he has looked like he has been cruising for a while now, and based on is comments maybe he did had enough. I mean his last fights looked more like sparring sessions until he decides it's time to go home.

If he is to take more fights I'd rather see him either vacating the belt as a champion or legitimately losing it, no fucking around this time.

Stupid as it was, no one can argue that he isn't entertaining though, even in loss.

[caroline]

Stupid as it was, no one can argue that he isn't entertaining though, even in loss.

Only if by "entertaining" you mean he's an annoying, unprofessional punk asshole. I can't stand showboating.

[BodyBagz]

Had silva taken this fight seriously and not played around in the ring, there is little doubt in my mind he would have scored a win over Weidman. Weidman was throwing more punches, but not landing a high percentage...Silva was playing with him for the 2 rounds they fought. Given Silvas past as a measuring stick, he could have poured it on if he had felt threatened...unfortunately, not only did he not feel threatened, he got over confident, and lost as a result by a couple of well timed "lucky shots".

Weidman is a virtual newcomer to the UFC...he really can and will be beat by an aged and experienced fighter. Belfort if he gets a shot will be a hell of a first title defense, and it will push Weidman to prove the Silva fight want more of Silva losing vs Weidman winning...

[yeahbuddy]

Had silva taken this fight seriously and not played around in the ring, there is little doubt in my mind he would have scored a win over Weidman. Weidman was throwing more punches, but not landing a high percentage...Silva was playing with him for the 2 rounds they fought. Given Silvas past as a measuring stick, he could have poured it on if he had felt threatened...unfortunately, not only did he not feel threatened, he got over confident, and lost as a result by a couple of well timed "lucky shots".

Weidman is a virtual newcomer to the UFC...he really can and will be beat by an aged and experienced fighter. Belfort if he gets a shot will be a hell of a first title defense, and it will push Weidman to prove the Silva fight want more of Silva losing vs Weidman winning...

Have you ever seen a Silva fight?
His "clowning" is part of his strategy.
I said it before & I will say it again, after Weidman took him down quite easily & nailed him with some shots early in the first round, Silva went into psych mode to frustrate Weidman and he got caught.
Watch the first two minutes of the fight again. The way Weidman took him down & spinned him to get on top was a thing of beauty. And that has never EVER happened to Silva.

[yeahbuddy]

What did I tell you-

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/anderson-s ... --mma.html

Anderson Silva vs. Chris Weidman II Targeted for UFC 168; Rousey vs. Tate Could Get Pushed Back

Heading into UFC 162: Silva vs. Weidman on Saturday, UFC president Dana White said if Anderson Silva lost to Chris Weidman that there would be an immediate rematch. He said it would be a “no brainer.”

Weidman ended Silva’s record streak of 10 successful UFC middleweight title defenses with two left hands and follow-up punches on the ground early in the second round.

On Monday, White told Los Angeles Times reporter Lance Pugmire that he’s excited for the rematch and is considering making it the UFC 168 headliner on Dec. 28 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

UFC women’s bantamweight champion Ronda Rousey is scheduled to rematch Miesha Tate on the UFC 168 fight card, but White said he’s considering moving that fight to Super Bowl weekend and replacing it with Silva vs. Weidman II. White believes the rematch between Weidman and Silva would be the biggest fight in UFC history.

Weidman offered Silva a rematch during his post-fight interview with commentator Joe Rogan.

“I just have to say all respect to Anderson Silva,” said Weidman. “I’ll give him an immediate rematch if he wants to do it.”

A rematch hinges on whether or not Silva wants it, something he said he did not immediately following his first UFC defeat.

“Chris is the champion now,” said Silva. “I finish my work. I no more fight for the belt. I fight for the belt for a long time. I’m tired.”

During the post-fight press conference, Silva pulled back on his comments, leaving the door cracked for a possible rematch.

“I want to take some time off and maybe three to four months, think about what I want to do. Really, right now, I can’t think about (a rematch),” Silva explained. “I just want to take some time off, go home, and think about everything and be alone.

“There’s a lot of pressure in defending this title. I defended it for a long time, so I need some time to myself.”

[slash4pres]

The rematch is set! and not the one you all are expecting.


http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/07/t ... at-ufc-164

[yeahbuddy]

The rematch is set! and not the one you all are expecting.


http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/07/t ... at-ufc-164

Love Pettis, feel really bad for Grant.
I thought he had a definite shot at beating Henderson.

[yeahbuddy]

Anybody see the Man they call Cyborg fight?
After Rousey takes off Tate's arm again, a Cyborg
Ronda fight has to happen.

[Indy_Rob]

Does anyone know where the main event can be viewed online? I just did a search and couldn't find it. I know it's gotta be out there somewhere.

Bump because I know some of you MMA superfans usually have the scoop on where to find this stuff. I couldn't.

[mullet_head]

Does anyone know where the main event can be viewed online? I just did a search and couldn't find it. I know it's gotta be out there somewhere.

Bump because I know some of you MMA superfans usually have the scoop on where to find this stuff. I couldn't.

My go to site is usually this one, you can find links with commentary in English or Spanish:
www.rojadirecta.me


If that one ain't working a search in Portuguese gives me links way easier but here's a couple Brazilian sites you can try.

http://www.ufcaovivo.tv/onlinegratis/

http://mundoonline.net/

[slash4pres]

Picks for the Fox Card

Johnson Decision
Rory Mac KO
Lawler KO
I have no idea who either of the women fighters are on this card.
danzig Sub

[yeahbuddy]

Picks for the Fox Card

Johnson Decision
Rory Mac KO
Lawler KO
I have no idea who either of the women fighters are on this card.
danzig Sub

I will watch all fights but the only fight I have any major interest in is
the Rory fight.
Mighty Mouse fights are like watching a fight on vhs while you are fast forwarding. Gives me a damn headache.

[yeahbuddy]

Watched the Silva/Weidman fight again.
After the fight before Dana gave Weidman the
belt he sure didn't look very happy.
He had a "oops no super fight, and there goes millions & millions & millions of dollars" look on his face.
The rematch will do well, but not like a fight with GSP or Bones Jones. Personally, I would not like to see any of those super fights. The three of them are in different weight classes so leave it at that.

[slash4pres]

Heard Wanderlei Silva's theme while at work today, I kept expecting Wand to come through the door doing his wrist rolly thingy.

[slash4pres]

watching the prelims right now. Guillard got a nasty KO on Mac Danzig.

[yeahbuddy]

What a lousy night of fights!
The McDonald/Ellenberger fight was one of the most anticipated fights of the year, but was the biggest turkey of the year. Seriously,,, what a lousy fight.

The prelims on FX were terrible.

The only fight I enjoyed was the Lawler fight.
They need to give that guy some stiffer competition.

[slash4pres]

Funny, I was expecting the co main to be awesome and the main to be kind of boring. Turns out, the co-main is a candidate for worst fight ever, and the ME was actually pretty good and set a record for latest finish in a UFC fight. The event had a shit ton of decisions, but it wasn't terrible. It had the Lawler finish and a BRUTAL KO of Mac Danzig by Guillard. Actually, Danzig got knocked out so bad he pissed his pants (which can be heard by one of the medical guys checking over him as he is moaning and wincing.)

[yeahbuddy]

Funny, I was expecting the co main to be awesome and the main to be kind of boring. Turns out, the co-main is a candidate for worst fight ever, and the ME was actually pretty good and set a record for latest finish in a UFC fight. The event had a shit ton of decisions, but it wasn't terrible. It had the Lawler finish and a BRUTAL KO of Mac Danzig by Guillard. Actually, Danzig got knocked out so bad he pissed his pants (which can be heard by one of the medical guys checking over him as he is moaning and wincing.)

I'm not into Guillard at all. He is the classic example of a fighter that takes 1 step forward & 3 steps back. When do you hear the pissing pants?
He was crying wasn't he?

[slash4pres]

right as he's crying you can hear one of the guys say something like "I think he pissed his pants" and then another person say "Yeah, he pissed"

[EddieVanHeineken]

So bellators first ppv is going to be rampage vs Tito..... That's going to be painful

[John Simon Ritchie]

So bellators first ppv is going to be rampage vs Tito..... That's going to be painful

saw that...yikes.

[yeahbuddy]

So bellators first ppv is going to be rampage vs Tito..... That's going to be painful

saw that...yikes.

I saw when they were making the announcement. I didn't know it was for ppv.
That's really lame.
I'm not a fan of Bellator. Most of their fights come off like minor league mma compared to what you see with the UFC.

[John Simon Ritchie]

So bellators first ppv is going to be rampage vs Tito..... That's going to be painful

saw that...yikes.

I saw when they were making the announcement. I didn't know it was for ppv.
That's really lame.
I'm not a fan of Bellator. Most of their fights come off like minor league mma compared to what you see with the UFC.

Exactly. I agree. Hard to watch.
BUT...I did inadvertently get hooked on their TUF rip-off.

[EddieVanHeineken]

i tried to watch the whole thing last night but the production and everything reminded me of WCW back in the day. The only reason they are doing this ppv is because of the Eddie Alvarez situation. They had to put something together in order to prove the contract they offered him is of "equal" value to the UFC contract on the table.

[yeahbuddy]

i tried to watch the whole thing last night but the production and everything reminded me of WCW back in the day. The only reason they are doing this ppv is because of the Eddie Alvarez situation. They had to put something together in order to prove the contract they offered him is of "equal" value to the UFC contract on the table.

The whole showcasing Tito vs Rampage announcement felt like I was watching wrestling or some other phony fight show.

And they kept talking up that curly haired guy & the guy wasn't even in very good shape. I watched the 1st round & saw enough.

Announcers are boring too.

With that being said, it sucks that Strikeforce is gone. Always enjoyed their fights. Not as much as UFC, but always worth watching.

[caroline]

BUT...I did inadvertently get hooked on their TUF rip-off.

Me too. I'm liking it better than TUF. Less drama.