NFL 2011 Thread

[bane]

That McGahee guy is a real scrub.

I give McGahee alot of credit.

You should. He's had an amazing season.

[WTF]

I never knew anybody liked me but thanks!

Dude, when you leave for a few months, people start asking where you went. You were loved as a mute.

[Pimp_From_The_Grave]

I never knew anybody liked me but thanks!

Dude, when you leave for a few months, people start asking where you went. You were loved as a mute.

No mo luv fer da pimp........

[MurrayFiend]

I never cared where you went.

[Tommy]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... t-sanchez/

Even with offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer out (even though coach Rex Ryan said he’d be back unless he becomes a head coach), some Jets players want to see more changes on offense.

As Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News explains it, “several key Jets players and members of the organization” have concerns regarding the ability of quarterback Mark Sanchez to do the job.

Some even want the team to dump Sanchez and replace him with Peyton Manning.

“Come on. That’s a no-brainer,” one Jets source told Mehta. “If you have a chance to get a healthy 36-year-old Peyton Manning and you don’t do it, then you’re stupid. If I could get a healthy 36-year-old Peyton Manning, then, hell yeah, I would trade Sanchez.”

At a minimum, the feeling is that Sanchez needs to be pushed harder from within.

“We have to bring in another quarterback that will make him work at practice,” one player told Mehta. “He’s lazy and content because he knows he’s not going to be benched.”

Mehta’s sources “raised serious doubts about [Sanchez's] ability to lead the Jets, questioning everything from his practice habits to the organization’s coddling of him to how much of a role he truly played in the team making two consecutive AFC Championship Game appearances.”

Another “well-respected player” agreed with the idea of making a move for Manning: “We already have his coach — Tom Moore. Plus, he’s a field general and will get everyone lined up. He will get his playmakers the ball. We can win a Super Bowl with Peyton.” That’s something that some current members of the team believe will never happen with Sanchez under center.

“How can we when he’s not improving at all?” one of the players told Mehta. “He thinks he is, but he’s not. He has shown us what he’s capable of.”

In fairness to Sanchez and those who have promised him a lifetime starting job (i.e., Rex Ryan), not everyone is opposed to concept of Sanchez continuing at quarterback. “Everybody got down on the quarterback,” one Jets source said. “But they weren’t looking at the situations we were putting him in. I don’t think he’s as bad as people are making him out to be. When the [sh-t] started snowballing and he lost confidence, he never recovered. Then, you saw him making one stupid throw and one stupid mistake after another.”

Part of the problem is that players seem to resent the extent to which the organization tries to protect him.

“They don’t want to be truthful with him,” a “prominent player” told Mehta. “They treat him like a baby instead of a man. He goes in a hole when someone tells him the truth. . . . So that should tell you everything. He just doesn’t have the mental toughness to be great . . . especially in New York.”

“They see the organization babying him,” another source told Mehta. “They see him with a sense of entitlement. He’s been given all this and hasn’t done anything. They call him ‘San-chise.’ They make him the face of the organization. They gave him the captain tag. He’s not a captain. He should have never been a captain.”

And now the question is whether he should even be a member of the team. When PFT reported last month that the team privately will explore options at the quarterback position in the offseason, Ryan dismissed it — and once again vowed the Sanchez would still be the guy.

Just like Ryan vowed Schottenheimer would be back. And just like Ryan vowed that the Jets would beat the Giants. And just like Ryan vowed the Jets would win the Super Bowl.

Maybe the unnamed Jets players are aiming their verbal arrows one level too low.












ugh

[Crazy Levi]

Sanchez hasn't been great but I don't think he's a lost cause. He could use a change of scenery.

This town would go apeshit if they landed Manning. And Pats/Jets would reach new levels of apeshitness.

[bane]

Sanchez hasn't been great but I don't think he's a lost cause. He could use a change of scenery.

Sanchez sucks. He's had what, 4 years? If that guy hasn't figured it out by now, he never will. That organization is a disaster right now though. Getting a new QB isn't gonna fix everything, but it wouldn't be a bad start.

[LAglamrocker]

Belicheck is scared he just hired Tebows pop warner coach for his staff, hired Tebows 4th grade ballet teacher, Tebows moms cosmetology teacher, Tebows dad bank teller

all won't matter Tebows god won't allow Belicheck to win the Cheaters Bowl

good triumphs over evil again
Broncos 31
Pats 6



Faith

[Tommy]

Sanchez hasn't been great but I don't think he's a lost cause. He could use a change of scenery.

Sanchez sucks. He's had what, 4 years? If that guy hasn't figured it out by now, he never will. That organization is a disaster right now though. Getting a new QB isn't gonna fix everything, but it wouldn't be a bad start.

B.S. = Brian Schottenheimer

Pennington

Pre B.S.
91.0QBR 205.6yds/g 16TDs 9INT 7.2YPA

During B.S.
82.6QBR 209.5yds/g 17TDs 16INT 6.9YPA

Post B.S.
97.4QBR 228.3yds/g 19TDs 7INT 7.7YPA


Favre

Pre B.S.
95.7QBR 259.7yds/g 28TDs 15INT 7.8YPA

During B.S.
81.0QBR 217.0yds/g 22TDs 22INT 6.7YPA

Post B.S.
107.2QBR 262.6yds/g 33TDs 7INT 7.9YPA


Not saying Sanchez is Montana, but Schottenheimer is terrible.

[bane]

You won't get me arguing about Schottenheimer. Dude sucks, but he's gone. Personally, I think the Jets have an identity problem. They can't make up their minds if they want to be Baltimore or New England.

[Tommy]

You won't get me arguing about Schottenheimer. Dude sucks, but he's gone. Personally, I think the Jets have an identity problem. They can't make up their minds if they want to be Baltimore of New England.

You're a smart man Mr. Bane.

[HMJ]

I always thought Sanchez was a shit QB that was dragging the Jets further down the toilet by always being 'slightly above average' so they never thought to doubt his abilities. Same thing with Tony Romo in Dallas. These players will never have rings. Mark my words.

[Facedown]

Belicheck is scared he just hired Tebows pop warner coach for his staff, hired Tebows 4th grade ballet teacher, Tebows moms cosmetology teacher, Tebows dad bank teller

all won't matter Tebows god won't allow Belicheck to win the Cheaters Bowl

good triumphs over evil again
Broncos 31
Pats 6



Faith

You should really see a doctor.

[Machado]

Just wanted to say I have nothing to add here because
Dallas' season ended a couple weeks ago.

[Crazy Levi]

I always thought Sanchez was a shit QB that was dragging the Jets further down the toilet by always being 'slightly above average' so they never thought to doubt his abilities. Same thing with Tony Romo in Dallas. These players will never have rings. Mark my words.

I think you are wrong about Romo. I saw him play live this year, and saw a number of games on TV. The guys is one of the better QBs in the league.

[Machado]

I always thought Sanchez was a shit QB that was dragging the Jets further down the toilet by always being 'slightly above average' so they never thought to doubt his abilities. Same thing with Tony Romo in Dallas. These players will never have rings. Mark my words.

I think you are wrong about Romo. I saw him play live this year, and saw a number of games on TV. The guys is one of the better QBs in the league.

Unfair to compair Sanchez to Romo.
Both teams did not make the playoffs, but Romo is a legit QB who has proven that again in 2011.
Sanchez is a QB that has not progressed at all. He took a few more steps back this year and is on the verge of a demotion.
Can't say the same for Romo

Romo had the 4th best QB rating in 2011, 102.5
Sanchez was ranked #23, 78.2

[Facedown]

Jets hire Tony Sparano as new OC.

[bane]

I always thought Sanchez was a shit QB that was dragging the Jets further down the toilet by always being 'slightly above average' so they never thought to doubt his abilities. Same thing with Tony Romo in Dallas. These players will never have rings. Mark my words.

I think you are wrong about Romo. I saw him play live this year, and saw a number of games on TV. The guys is one of the better QBs in the league.

Romo puts up really good numbers but he caves under pressure. He's done it too many times to call it a fluke. Sanchez seems to be the opposite, at least prior to this year.

[AliceManson]

Sanchez hasn't been great but I don't think he's a lost cause. He could use a change of scenery.

This town would go apeshit if they landed Manning. And Pats/Jets would reach new levels of apeshitness.

The NFL and networks would love the idea of 2 (maybe 3) Brady/Manning games a year.

[AliceManson]

Belicheck is scared he just hired Tebows pop warner coach for his staff, hired Tebows 4th grade ballet teacher, Tebows moms cosmetology teacher, Tebows dad bank teller

all won't matter Tebows god won't allow Belicheck to win the Cheaters Bowl

good triumphs over evil again
Broncos 31
Pats 6



Faith

McDaniels had the job before they even knew they were playing Denver, dumb ass. Belicheck was getting ready for the Steelers. Brady won't score one TD? You are dumber than P13, you make people want to cheer against Tebow.

[LAglamrocker]

you reading about NFL playoffs on a hairband site, makes you want to cheer against Tebow? ha,ha,ha thats even lame for Sludge

your the type of person that watches Colts games and thinks about Sludge "people",.."oh my god P-13 lost again"

[Luminiferous]

So God only listens to devout Christian's when they pray?

So if you have sinned, God doesn't listen to or answer your prayers anymore?

I've always heard a person should pray to the almighty and give thanks everyday of their lives and God is supposed to forgive a person of their sins and transgressions..

Guess there's some fine print somewhere in the ol' Good Book that I missed regarding Steelers players accused of, but never charged with a crime....

[Tymaster]

Just wanted to say I have nothing to add here because
Dallas' season ended a couple weeks ago.

No, no, no. That means you are watching football completely objectively. Like I am.
For the record:
All the home teams win this week.
Although I think the NYG could pull off the upset of the year.

Tony Romo and Mark Sanchez both deserve one more season to prove their mettle.

I'm done.

[Machado]

Just wanted to say I have nothing to add here because
Dallas' season ended a couple weeks ago.

No, no, no. That means you are watching football completely objectively. Like I am.
For the record:
All the home teams win this week.
Although I think the NYG could pull off the upset of the year.

Tony Romo and Mark Sanchez both deserve one more season to prove their mettle.

I'm done.

Fuck that. Last week I watched a some plays, but most of them I watched while having dining out. Just happened to be a t.v. facing me.

Anyway, when Dallas was eliminated, turned my back on the game for another very long off-season.

[Machado]

A review of the Denver Broncos' pre-snap formation on the game-winning touchdown pass from Tim Tebow to Demaryius Thomas suggests that the play could have been ruled illegal.

Only six Denver Broncos players were lined up on the line of scrimmage before the snap. NFL rules say that a team must have seven or more players on the line for a snap to be legal. As the picture above shows, tight end Dante Rosario was well behind his teammates.

The formation eventually caught the eye of current Fox analyst and former NFL Vice President of Officiating Mike Pereira. He dismissed any suggestion that the play should have been whistled dead. "Watch on any Sunday," he tweeted. "This is a good formation compared to many. They are not technical with this."

[bigbuttskinner]

The reason Dallas is not in the playoffs is NOT because of Tony Romo. He was the ONLY reason they even had a shot all year long. If Dallas had a secondary they would have made the playoffs. It didn't help matters that in two consecutive weeks it came to field goals that were disasterous. Romo is more clutch than the general public knows. Without him, Dallas goes from playoff contender to an abysmal 2-14 team, easy.

Get them a secondary, cut out the idiot head coach, and let Romo win 'em.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

you reading about NFL playoffs on a hairband site, makes you want to cheer against Tebow? ha,ha,ha thats even lame for Sludge

your the type of person that watches Colts games and thinks about Sludge "people",.."oh my god P-13 lost again"

Says the same moron who posts attendance scores of Soundgarden shows and proclaims the death of grunge and the success of hair metal.

[bane]

The reason Dallas is not in the playoffs is NOT because of Tony Romo. He was the ONLY reason they even had a shot all year long. If Dallas had a secondary they would have made the playoffs. It didn't help matters that in two consecutive weeks it came to field goals that were disasterous. Romo is more clutch than the general public knows. Without him, Dallas goes from playoff contender to an abysmal 2-14 team, easy.

Get them a secondary, cut out the idiot head coach, and let Romo win 'em.

I agree that Romo isn't the problem in Dallas, but he sure as hell ain't "clutch". They'll win a lot of games with him, but he'll never put a team on his back and take them to the promised land.

[HMJ]

The reason Dallas is not in the playoffs is NOT because of Tony Romo. He was the ONLY reason they even had a shot all year long. If Dallas had a secondary they would have made the playoffs. It didn't help matters that in two consecutive weeks it came to field goals that were disasterous. Romo is more clutch than the general public knows. Without him, Dallas goes from playoff contender to an abysmal 2-14 team, easy.

Get them a secondary, cut out the idiot head coach, and let Romo win 'em.

I agree that Romo isn't the problem in Dallas, but he sure as hell ain't "clutch". They'll win a lot of games with him, but he'll never put a team on his back and take them to the promised land.

That's what I'm saying. And that's why I put him in the same boat as Sanchez. They are not effective leaders.

My god Saturday will be awesome. I'm expecting all out awesome games.

[LAglamrocker]

yea so what, you think i go to metal shows and think "i wonder what whitehouse thinks about this show?", or I'm at Stryper and think "wow HMZ is jealous?," ha,ha

yea clearly 31-6 isn't a prediction fromTebows heaven, thanks captain obvious.


Giants could win in Greenbay then SF pretty easy.

Broncos,Saints, Giants could all win, the surprise would be Texans. But 1 game anything could happen. With the teams left all are pretty much = to everyone

how many times has NFC1 played AFC 1 in recent years in the Superbowl?