Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[SkyDog112046]

Word is that Ortiz has another wrist injury. He of course is denying it, but he is sure swinging like something is wrong.

[Machado]

kill,
how is your #1 sox ellsbury feeling today? he took a knee to the ribs
from beltre.
i guess you got your wish-he may not bat leadoff anytime soon.

can you tell "tito" to play hall at ss a lot more please-he looks great out there,

C.C. pitched great on Saturday. if the rays hitter did not get that single, the debate would have been the talk of the town-whether Girardi would have taken C.C. out of the game with the 110 pitches thrown to that point.

jake-what's up w/burrell and his nasty slide coming back to 1st base? was he trying to ends Tex's season because his own season is in the garbage?

His X rays were negative. I think he'll only be out one or two games with bruised ribs. Even though it's like the top of the 2nd right now in Minnesota, with the weather reports I don't think they'll finish the game. Much less play tommorrow. Oh and Ortiz has struck out ( five in a row )

I didn't watch all the Tampa game. I missed Burrell's slide, but saw it on MLB Tonite. I think that kind of shit is crap. You don't try to take out a fucking player...especially at the start of the season.....especially when your team has a pretty good shot at the Division....especially not in the Playoffs. It's like a AAAA player trying to make an impression in ST.

Someone call Nolan Ryan, or Pedro, or Joba The Fat. It's head hunting season.

If burrell is still on the rays when they play the Yankees again, I would like to think that burrell will get a fastball to the ankle/rib area
Tex made a comment to him after the play.
Tex was seen glaring into the rays dugout a few mins later

Somehow burrell had a single later in the game and it appeared that he was trying to explain/apologize to Tex at 1st base. Looks like Tex said, "ok" or "that's all right" in reply to what burrell had to say.

[dtmfs]

I hope TB does cut Burrell, I'd like to see him back in Philly filliing in for werth or Ibanez when needed, it's no secret he never wanted to leave but Philly didn't want to pay him what he wanted either, I alwas liked the guy especially when it came to his knack for beasting on Mets pitching.

[killeverything]

John Dewan's Stat Of The Week

Twins Twin Killing

April 9, 2010

The Minnesota Twins had a busy spring, signing AL MVP and hometown hero Joe Mauer to an eight-year extension and holding auditions to fill the closer’s role after losing four-time All-Star Joe Nathan to Tommy John surgery. But the most significant offseason activity might have been the middle infield defensive upgrades.

Last season, the Twins lost approximately 33 runs as a team defensively, a total that placed them 28th out of 30 teams in Major League Baseball. The main problem was the keystone combination. Their second basemen lost an estimated 22 runs defensively in 2009 and their shortstops lost 24. The main culprits were Orlando Caberera, who cost an estimated 33 runs at shortstop for Oakland and Minnesota last year, Alexi Casilla (-12 Runs Saved at second base) and Brendan Harris (also -12 combining his play at shortstop and second base).

With a crowded outfield including Delmon Young, Denard Span, Jason Kubel, and Michael Cuddyer, the Twins traded center fielder Carlos Gomez to the Brewers for 27-year-old shortstop J.J. Hardy, who is coming off a disappointing 2009 season offensively. Hardy has totaled 20 Runs Saved over the last three years, and we project him for another 7 Runs Saved this year.

Orlando Hudson spent most of the winter without a home until the Twins stepped up with a one-year, $5 million contract. Hudson has totaled 18 Runs Saved over the past three years and also projects to 7 Runs Saved for 2010.

The loss of Carlos Gomez will cost the Twins defensively. He is among the best center fielders in the game. But the projected 31-run gain at shortstop and 29 runs gained at second base defensively will more than make up for it. Overall, we project the Twins to improve their defense by 39 runs over last year. Using the widely-accepted maxim that 10 runs is roughly equal to a win in the standings, the Twins’ are projected to improve by four wins on defense alone.

In addition to the defensive upgrade, the Twins will see better offense from their middle infielders as well. Last year, Twins shortstops and second basemen combined for 117 Runs Created, while we project Hudson and Hardy to create 158 runs with their offense. The offensive upgrade combined with the defensive improvement should make the pain of Nathan’s injury hurt a little less.


Twins Second Base Upgrade
Runs Created Runs Saved
Twins 2B 2009 48 -22
Hudson 2010 (Projected) 85 7
Upgrade 37 29

Twins Shortstop Upgrade
Runs Created Runs Saved
Twins SS 2009 69 -24
Hudson 2010 (Projected) 73 7
Upgrade 4 31


I'm still under the belief, especially since Gardenhire always seems to be able to get it done. The Twins will win the Central.

[TawnyVonJagger]

Marlins bullpen...KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1 What the FUCK!? Jose Veras used to set up Mariano Rivera?? Really? How many fucking leads did he blow with the MFY?!

And the errors! FUCK!

I'm pissed.

[killeverything]

Marlins bullpen...KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1 What the FUCK!? Jose Veras used to set up Mariano Rivera?? Really? How many fucking leads did he blow with the MFY?!

And the errors! FUCK!

I'm pissed.

Yeah, I saw that. BP's are the hardest thing to predict. At least it's the start of the season.

On a funny note today/tonite. Milton Bradley hit the GW 3 run homer in the 8th off Brad Ziegler to win the game. Now Seattle hasn't scored a run in like 19 innings prior to, so this will probably make the sociopath pleasant....for a bit. If not he can blame Chicago.

[Rainbow Bright]

At this point, Seattle should call one of Shawn Kemp's kids to swing the lumber.

[Machado]

Marlins bullpen...KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1 What the FUCK!? Jose Veras used to set up Mariano Rivera?? Really? How many fucking leads did he blow with the MFY?!

And the errors! FUCK!

I'm pissed.

Veras was traded or let go because he was so inconsistent.
He could string together 10 games without giving up a run, or pitch in 3 straight games where he can't get out of an inning.

In case this makes you feel better, he was not the set up man for Mo. Just a middle reliever

[JakeYonkel]

Veras is a Hispanic Kyle Farnsworth. Flame thrower with shit control.

[SkyDog112046]

Papelbon gets a save but he damn near ended up blowing that game. He had a 3 run lead and allowed the tying run to come up to the plate. He had no control at all and during one at-bat he walked the guy on 4 pitches including 2 in the dirt and a wild pitch. A quick glance says that he gets his saves and has a low ERA but it's all smoke and mirrors with him. I just can't see him staying in the closer role if every game is going to be a high wire act.

[tin00can]

It's just about that time of year when we finally stop seeing last year's stats for the players. Sweet!

[JakeYonkel]

Yeah, we're kinda past the point of most guys hitting .000, .333, or .500, thankfully.

Tampa's looking good. Just gotta get rid of Burrell.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

Yeah, we're kinda past the point of most guys hitting .000, .333, or .500, thankfully.
.

My fantasy lineup is proof of that.

[johnk5150]

Dear Milwaukee,

Enjoy LaTroy.

Sincerely,

The Cubs

[JakeYonkel]

LaTrash is awful.

He had a nice run in Houston but he's so bad.

He had the gall to wear Paul O'Neill's number in NY (it's not retired but nobody's worn 21 since O'Neill retired) and was heckled so bad by the home fans that he changed after like a week.

[Machado]

LaTrash is awful.

He had a nice run in Houston but he's so bad.

He had the gall to wear Paul O'Neill's number in NY (it's not retired but nobody's worn 21 since O'Neill retired) and was heckled so bad by the home fans that he changed after like a week.

I have nothing good to say about this guy. How he pitched so well for the astros is beyond me. As a Yankee, he was not very good.
When I saw the highlights last night, I recognized the pitching motion and knew right away he was on the road to giving up multiple runs.

[johnk5150]

LaTrash is awful.

He had a nice run in Houston but he's so bad.

He had the gall to wear Paul O'Neill's number in NY (it's not retired but nobody's worn 21 since O'Neill retired) and was heckled so bad by the home fans that he changed after like a week.

A lot of people outside the situation think the 03 Marlins series was rock bottom for Cubs fans, but we expected it. Way worse in my eyes is the way he was directly responsible for the collapse in the last week of the season in '04. 2 1/2 lead for the wild card with six to play and that turd gives up a homer to some guy for the Mets who was out of baseball the next season to start the slide.

There was a Cubs/Phillies game early in '04 where LaTurd had the bases loaded with one out. He catches a liner back to him for out #2 and tries to double off the guy going back to first and throws the ball off the runners helmet careening into right field for a two out two run error. Cubs lose. I was on Murphys bleachers rooftop that afternoon. There are days I think I should have jumped.

My brother sent me this text. "sportsline play by play says 'lineout to the pitcher. 2 runs score' WTF?"

If he were to be hit by a bus in Wrigleyville I don't think the EMTs would respond if told who was injured.

[Machado]

Tex is once again off to another terrible start.
3 for 31
.097 avg
.129 slugging

[JakeYonkel]

Yeah man, LaTroy stinks. He had a decent year with Colorado which he parlayed into a few million from the Yankees only to be handed to Houston by like June of that year (08 I think it was). He was the replacement to Luis Vizcaino... another stud pitcher. I kept saying I thought Chan Ho Park would be another Hawkins for the Yankees this year but thusfar I've been wrong.

As for Teixeira... sucking for the first month of the season is par for the course with that guy, for his entire career. It's probably most psychological at this point too, since it literally happens EVERY year.

The funny thing was that he really did have an awesome spring training until he hurt his wrist and he's been lousy ever since.

[Machado]

As for Teixeira... sucking for the first month of the season is par for the course with that guy, for his entire career. It's probably most psychological at this point too, since it literally happens EVERY year.

The funny thing was that he really did have an awesome spring training until he hurt his wrist and he's been lousy ever since.

Injured his wrist? I don't remember that.
He was beaned in the elbow. Is that what you meant?

The slow start is all in his head. At this point in his career, he expects to start out slow. Not sure what he can do to change this pattern.

[JakeYonkel]

Maybe it was the elbow... I know it was arm related.

[Machado]

Marlins bullpen...KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1 What the FUCK!? Jose Veras used to set up Mariano Rivera?? Really? How many fucking leads did he blow with the MFY?!

And the errors! FUCK!

I'm pissed.

Veras has been DFA's by the marlins today

[tin00can]

For those of you who think Scioscia is a great manager...today is Reggie Willits' first day back on the big league roster, and he's getting a start in LF over a guy who has hit more HRs this week than Willits has in his career. Willits sucked in spring training, he sucked the last two years in limited appearances, and he sucked in his rehab starts. The ONLY thing he brings to the table is speed, but he's a horrible baserunner.

And yet he gets the start. WTF, Mike?

[killeverything]

For those of you who think Scioscia is a great manager...today is Reggie Willits' first day back on the big league roster, and he's getting a start in LF over a guy who has hit more HRs this week than Willits has in his career. Willits sucked in spring training, he sucked the last two years in limited appearances, and he sucked in his rehab starts. The ONLY thing he brings to the table is speed, but he's a horrible baserunner.

And yet he gets the start. WTF, Mike?

Number one. You have to understand it's the start of the season. Managers still have to feel their players out. Plus everyone needs an off-day.

As for Scioscia being a great manager. I like his style of play, and I've always held him in high regards as a brilliant tactician. Although the crew of Baseball Prospectus, and Hardball Times disagree with me for him being a "genius". According to their manager rankings, Scioscia is near the bottom. Actually a lot of "geniuses" are pretty low ranked. Go figure.

Didn't Teixeria have a bad ST too? Would you not play him because of it?



Okay that example sucked.

[JakeYonkel]

Teixeira had a GREAT spring. To be exact, he hit .362/.423/.596. Like I said though he got hit on the arm and his last few games before the season started he was sucking. And he's carried that over into the regular season, because I think he's hitting around .100 through 10 games or so.

Maybe I personally give Scioscia too much credit because he's always bent the Yankees over, but it seems like a lot of the guys that always gave the Yankees fits are gone now (Lackey, Kennedy, Molina, Figgins). Either way he's a 1st-to-3rd, score-from-2nd, balls to the wall kinda guy and I respect that.

[killeverything]

Teixeira had a GREAT spring. To be exact, he hit .362/.423/.596. Like I said though he got hit on the arm and his last few games before the season started he was sucking. And he's carried that over into the regular season, because I think he's hitting around .100 through 10 games or so.

Maybe I personally give Scioscia too much credit because he's always bent the Yankees over, but it seems like a lot of the guys that always gave the Yankees fits are gone now (Lackey, Kennedy, Molina, Figgins). Either way he's a 1st-to-3rd, score-from-2nd, balls to the wall kinda guy and I respect that.

Yeah, I don't know why I was think Teix had a less than impressive Spring, maybe I was trying to justify his always slow starts?

As for Scoscia I agree with you. I like the small ball Angels. That was what was so fucking cool IMO about the 2002 team. The timing was perfect. Baseball was awash in the Roid Era ( Bonds, McGwire, Sosa ) in comes a team that plays the old school way, and they fucking killed everybody.

"That was incredible. Top of the inning were up by four runs, the bottom we're down by seven" - Derek Jeter after the Playoff loss ( this is from memory, the run differential might actually be different )

Where Scoscia IMO has faltered in the post-season as of late IMO, is his bullpen usage. Now as I alluded to. The Sabermetric evaluations of his managing, isn't so high on him.

*( I don't neccesarily agree with their judging metrics, and it is new and flawed. Much like Pitchf/x and UZR )

I've always enjoyed their game personally. Especially now that those fucking "Thundersticks" aren't around so much.

[TawnyVonJagger]

Marlins bullpen...KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1 What the FUCK!? Jose Veras used to set up Mariano Rivera?? Really? How many fucking leads did he blow with the MFY?!

And the errors! FUCK!

I'm pissed.

Veras has been DFA's by the marlins today

And there is much joy and celebration in Mudville!

Jorge Cantu is a...machine. Unreal. Thanks Fish, for a wonderful birthday present tonight. Now off to Philly, where I expect to get whooped. Hopefully Jorgie can continue the streak, though!

[killeverything]

Marlins bullpen...KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!1 What the FUCK!? Jose Veras used to set up Mariano Rivera?? Really? How many fucking leads did he blow with the MFY?!

And the errors! FUCK!

I'm pissed.

Veras has been DFA's by the marlins today

And there is much joy and celebration in Mudville!

Jorge Cantu is a...machine. Unreal. Thanks Fish, for a wonderful birthday present tonight. Now off to Philly, where I expect to get whooped. Hopefully Jorgie can continue the streak, though!

Holy shit. Philly is killing everyone so far.

After the WS loss, where they didn't play to the level they were capable of ( personally IMO it wouldn't have mattered. No one was stopping Steinbrenner's All-Stars ). They've got something to prove.

I think it was on MLBN where they were comparing Philly and their home-grown core to the MFY in the 90s. I can see it. Let's see Philly pull off something like the MFY in '98 though. Argueably the greatest team of all time.

I am pretty stoked to Florida this season. As I said a page back. Their just a team you wanna root for ( thanks for 2003 ......and Beckett and Lowell ).


Now I was at work so I missed all the fucking games. Apparently Liriano of pre-TJ surgery was back....well that's just fucking dandy if you're not playing NY.....bastards. And Kazmir all of the sudden can't beat the MFY? Oh yeah, that Phil Hughes kid? Mark my words. He's gonna be of the next talked about aces. Fuck Joba.

[JakeYonkel]

Kazmir never really killed the Yankees... it was the Red Sox who he gave fits to. I could never stand him though, 110 pitches through 5 innings constantly. I thought that was a great trade for Tampa and I still do.

[killeverything]

Kazmir never really killed the Yankees... it was the Red Sox who he gave fits to. I could never stand him though, 110 pitches through 5 innings constantly. I thought that was a great trade for Tampa and I still do.

Not to cherry pick, but I didn't mean dominate NY.

I decided to look at his record vs. the MFY. Well he sucks in both MFY Stadiums with a 2-4 record. .333Wpct 5.04ERA ( 13.50ERA as of yesterday ) Career he's 6-6 with a 3.50ERA 1.33Whip 8.6K/9

So that's not exactly bad, he just can't win unless he's in Tampa....or maybe LA for that matter. I don't have the time to look up all the stats right now.

Arod is 5-30 against him with a .251BAA.

The Mighty Red Sox are 7-8 3.33ERA so yeah, he kicks their asses......


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