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Kid-Wicked wrote: way too early to judge this trade but i think they overpayed for this guy. on the surface it looks like naslund for stojonav.
I don't think it's quite Naslund/Stojonov; Kassian has more skill than that. It's an iffy deal, but hasn't Hogdson also been at odds with the 'Nucks organization over the years as well? Something with the diagnosis and treatement of his back injury a year or two ago?

It was Vigneault himself who questioned it.

I recall following the story of Hodgson's awkward introduction to the Canucks during the Summer of 2008. Having just been drafted, Hodgson had injured his back while lifting weights and working out in his native Toronto. The super-rookie was eager to get his pro career started on the right skated, so he jumped into the gym to begin the arduous process of getting his body prepared for the pro game.

Hodgson, the bright young star that Gillis had drafted in order to be the future face of the franchise, quickly fell out of favor with his coach when his family asked fr and sight out a second opinion regarding Cody's back ailment. The family was entitled to seek their own medical opinion, and did, however, the decision to do so seemed to cause hard feelings inside the Canucks organization.

His coach, Alain Vigneault offered these thoughts to the Vancouver Province regarding the Hodgson injury:

“He (Hodgson) had an opinion back home from a specialist, who gave the exact same report that our back specialist gave him", Vigneault was quoted.

Fair enough. Then, Vigneault added fuel to a fire by suggesting that Hodgson may have been feeling sour grapes as a result of his being cut and sent back to juniors from the Canucks after his first NHL training camp.

“I think Cody is a very young man who hasn’t had a lot of disappointments throughout his life. He’s probably having as tough time, personally, dealing with this one and trying to find a reason why it happened. We’ve all had times where we’ve encountered disappointment and tried to roll the (blame) in a different direction.”

Ouch. Doesn't sound like the type of support that a young star's looking for from his veteran NHL mentor and coach.

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Ron Wilson is out as coach of the Leafs. Randy Carlyle is rumored to be replacing him.

When does Brian Burke get fired. The Leafs haven't made the playoffs in the post lockout era, barely have a legitimate first line, have a derth of middling d-men, and a bunch of prospects Burke puts on a pedestal whom nobody else values.

At least the Habs can build around Price, Subban, Pacioretty, Desharnais, and a few others.

What a mess in TO!
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WOLF wrote:Ron Wilson is out as coach of the Leafs. Randy Carlyle is rumored to be replacing him.

When does Brian Burke get fired. The Leafs haven't made the playoffs in the post lockout era, barely have a legitimate first line, have a derth of middling d-men, and a bunch of prospects Burke puts on a pedestal whom nobody else values.

At least the Habs can build around Price, Subban, Pacioretty, Desharnais, and a few others.

What a mess in TO!
Still,even after a complete collapse over the last two months they are five points ahead of the Habs..(for now) lol

Say what you will and even though both teams suck right now,the Leafs have a deeper NHL lineup than The Habs outside of TO's glaring goaltending woes.This should have been addressed by Brian Burke when it was obvious that the lingering effects of Reimer's concussion/neck injury were far worse than first thought,much like what Ryan Miller has gone though this year after Lucic's cheap shot..Gustavsson has shown that he isn't an NHL-caliber goaltender at all and putting faith in two questionable netminders has been the Leafs' downfall down the stretch.They've shown that they can hang with almost anyone in most games but that bad goal at the worst time has killed them time and time again.I'm all for building for the future but in this case something should have been done to address the needs in net,even if it meant parting with someone from the starting lineup.No goaltending = you're fucked!

As far as coaching,it was time for a change.I was watching the Chicago game the other night and with a minute left in the first period and with a 3-1 lead,Wilson put the fourth line on the ice..Chicago,being the home team with the last line change,threw out the Kane/Hossa line and promptly closed the gap to 3-2 and it was all downhill from there.Dumb move that anyone could see coming a mile away..good riddance to Wilson.He lost his team long ago..Carlyle is a hardass and won't take any bullshit from the primadonnas.Hopefully he can right the ship over the next few weeks,

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WOLF wrote:Ron Wilson is out as coach of the Leafs. Randy Carlyle is rumored to be replacing him.

When does Brian Burke get fired. The Leafs haven't made the playoffs in the post lockout era, barely have a legitimate first line, have a derth of middling d-men, and a bunch of prospects Burke puts on a pedestal whom nobody else values.

At least the Habs can build around Price, Subban, Pacioretty, Desharnais, and a few others.

What a mess in TO!
Still,even after a complete collapse over the last two months they are five points ahead of the Habs..(for now) lol

Say what you will and even though both teams suck right now,the Leafs have a deeper NHL lineup than The Habs outside of TO's glaring goaltending woes.This should have been addressed by Brian Burke when it was obvious that the lingering effects of Reimer's concussion/neck injury were far worse than first thought,much like what Ryan Miller has gone though this year after Lucic's cheap shot..Gustavsson has shown that he isn't an NHL-caliber goaltender at all and putting faith in two questionable netminders has been the Leafs' downfall down the stretch.They've shown that they can hang with almost anyone in most games but that bad goal at the worst time has killed them time and time again.I'm all for building for the future but in this case something should have been done to address the needs in net,even if it meant parting with someone from the starting lineup.No goaltending = you're fucked!

As far as coaching,it was time for a change.I was watching the Chicago game the other night and with a minute left in the first period and with a 3-1 lead,Wilson put the fourth line on the ice..Chicago,being the home team with the last line change,threw out the Kane/Hossa line and promptly closed the gap to 3-2 and it was all downhill from there.Dumb move that anyone could see coming a mile away..good riddance to Wilson.He lost his team long ago..Carlyle is a hardass and won't take any bullshit from the primadonnas.Hopefully he can right the ship over the next few weeks,

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I don't think the Habs are as bad as they seem. EVERYTHING has gone wrong this year. If you take a new GM/Coach next year, combine with Price, a healthy Markov, an engaged Kaberle, Gorges, Subban, and Emelin (who has really emerged this year), and you're OK on the back end. Desharnnais, Pacioretty, Cole has emerged as a great second line, White/Darche/Moen can be a nice 4th line, Plekanec, Gionta, Bourque and Eller are still in the mix (or trade bait), Gomez is going to Hamilton...

Add in a top 5 draft pick this year, Brendan Gallagher and Mike Bournival - who were both on Canada's' World Junior team this year (as well as Nathan Beaulieu on defence), Jarred Tinordi - a 6 foot 7 monster who's' looking good with the London Knights, as well as a US college kid named Danny Kristo, and you have some nice ingredients.

New management + Gomez distraction out + a little toughness and Habs will be back in the playoff mix next year. IMO they are better off than the Leafs, and unlike the Leafs they've made the playoffs the last four years.
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Good article in the T.O Sun the other day.Highlights Burke's mismanagement.Keep in mind,this article was wrote by Steve Simmons,who is barred from interviewing the Leafs by Burke because of past articles.Nonetheless I think he hits the nail on the head.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/29/no ... nder+Burke

If on Nov. 29, 2008, anyone had suggested the Maple Leafs would continue on a path to nowhere, they would have been laughed at on the day Brian Burke was hired to change everything.

There was so much optimism then. There was so much to believe in. It wasn’t just Burke taking over a franchise in need of vision and destination, it was everything he promised. It was how he spoke with such confidence, coming off a Stanley Cup in Anaheim and a strong, contending team in Vancouver. It was how the Maple Leafs, after years of doing things wrong, were finally going to build an organization around Burke, the right way, just as the Red Wings did.

And when Ken Holland showed no interest in leaving Detroit for Toronto after being quietly and unofficially approached, Leafs ownership was thrilled to have Burke, expensive as he might have been, to turn the keys and full control over to.

Burke made it clear from his first day on the job that he was too impatient to rebuild. There would be no five-year plans. He would be aggressive in the trade market, aggressive in free agency. He wasn’t one to sit around and wait.

So here we are: After 288 games with Burke as president and general manager, in a dubious place once again, with not one of those games being in the post-season. The past four seasons have been entertaining, mostly because the general manager is always one rant, one speech, one verbal assault, one press conference away from being the lead item on the news on any given day. Never has a team or its general manager made more news for having less success. It is forever loud around the Leafs: But what’s startling and troubling and head-scratching after four seasons of Burke in Toronto is how much he sold, and how little he has actually delivered on his promises. Were he a politician and standing for re-election, Burke would have great difficulty defending his record.

He said on Day 1 — and has reiterated numerous times — that he builds his teams from the “back end out.” That, if you read the standings, is the key to success for most NHL teams.

But that hasn’t been the Leafs way in four seasons of Burke. Cumulatively, the Leafs have allowed more goals against in his time in Toronto than any other team in the Eastern Conference. The Leafs are last in goals against in the East this season. They were last in Burke’s first two years on the job and vaulted to 13th in the conference last season.

For half a season in Burke’s time here — the first run of James Reimer — the Leafs have had competent goaltending. The rest of the time? Spotty. For a team looking to build from the “back end out” they had yet to identify a dependable goaltender, which has been a constant of sorts in Burke’s career. And all that has happened with Burke’s chosen goaltender guru, Francois Allaire, in charge of the netminders.

Just as he did in Anaheim, Burke replaced almost an entire defence in a short time with the Leafs, bringing in Dion Phaneuf, Mike Komisarek, Francois Beauchemin (for a short time), John-Michael Liles, Jake Gardiner, Cody Franson, Keith Aulie and elevating Carl Gunnarrson to join holdover Luke Schenn on the blueline. He would brashly tell anyone he had as deep a defence as anyone in hockey. Deep, yes. Successful, no. Burke won a Stanley Cup with Chris Pronger and Scott Niedermayer playing the majority of minutes in Anaheim. What he has discovered in Toronto is he has no one close to those all-timers here.

When he was first hired, Burke was adamant he had no time for a rebuild or a five-year plan. His impatience led to the controversial trading for Phil Kessel, which has been an excellent short-term addition for the Leafs. Kessel is clearly the Maple Leafs’ best forward and has made his way into the top 10 in league scoring this season. That was the gain. The loss was the draft picks that turned out to be young centre, Tyler Seguin, Team Canada defenceman Dougie Hamilton and prospect Jared Knight. The Leafs have 94 goals from Kessel in three seasons, this one not yet complete. The Bruins have 31 goals, a Stanley Cup and some future to show for the deal.

But as for not having time for a five-year rebuild, next year will be Burke’s fifth season in Toronto. He has yet to deliver a playoff game, even in this season where it appeared so easily attainable, and there is no certainty one will come next year.

Burke himself would have scoffed at any thought that it would take this long to not contend, to just be an eighth-place team. But the reality is, it has taken this long. And next season is Year 5 of the five-year plan he had no patience for.

Burke vowed from his first day on the job that the Leafs would become a tough team, his favourite word being truculence. His teams, as he likes to say, were always difficult to play against. And after signing free agent Colton Orr, he would often say how much harder it was to play against his team now that Orr was here. That was his belief.

It wasn’t lasting. The Leafs are almost the opposite in nature of the type of team Burke wanted. Orr, who ran out of time and place with the Leafs, was dispatched to the minors and emotionally that was hard on the general manager. It was a defeat of philosophy and loyalty. The signing of Colby Armstrong was supposed to bring a certain tenacity with it. But between injuries and ineffectiveness, Armstrong has proven to be just another poor free-agent signing, one of many poor free-agent signings by Burke.

When successful this season, the team that coach Ron Wilson iced got by on speed, finesse and offensive bursts from Kessel, Joffrey Lupul, Gardiner and Mikhail Grabovski, those who can change a game.

The Leafs can’t out-tough anyone. They don’t have the people to play Burke’s game, if that game still exists. It isn’t their nature.

Before coming to Toronto, Burke’s teams in Vancouver, Anaheim and Hartford had won 76 more games than they’d lost. His record, except in Hartford, where he wasn’t there long enough, was that he made teams better. His work on the Sedin twins set up the Canucks for years of success. His manipulations to get Pronger and Niedermayer to Anaheim brought a Cup to the Ducks. But the fine additions of Kessel, Lupul, Phaneuf and Gardiner have not accomplished the same in Toronto.

The Leafs played their 288th game under Burke in Chicago on Wednesday night: Entering that game, they had won 123. In the new three-point world of the NHL, the Leafs have managed 287 points in Burke’s first 287 games. That’ s an 82-point pace — good enough most years to contend for a 10th pick in the draft, but not much else.

In his early years on the job, Burke spoke often about Blue and White disease, about a sense of entitlement that failed the franchise, about ridding the team of that troubled entity. But what’s happened? He has become something of a poster boy for Blue and White disease, louder than he should be considering how little success he’s attained. The undeserved contract extension granted to coach Wilson was as much about entitlement as anything else. It was pure Blue and White.

And his recent barb about the trade deadline pressure sending his club to oblivion was little more than protecting the same kind of players he scorned privately and publicly upon being hired here.

It is clear now the coach will be changed going forward and maybe with it the team and the culture will change also. But for Brian Burke and his “time is now” approach, his time has yet to come. Four years are gone. How many more before Toronto plays a post-season game?

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Also from Simmons, an interesting article on Burke's tenure compared to John Ferguson Jr's. Of course,this doesn;t factor in intangibles and goes by stats alone,but it does show how the Leafs have not improved since running JFJ out of town.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/25/si ... han-burkes

TORONTO - John Ferguson Jr. was basically laughed out of Toronto as an inept general manager for having teams that were more productive than those that have been put forth thus far by Brian Burke.

If you don’t believe it, look it up.

Ferguson fired Pat Quinn after he failed to make the playoffs by two points in 2006. Quinn finished that year with 90 points, his lowest total as Leafs coach. The following season, Paul Maurice’s first as Leafs coach, Toronto missed the post-season on the final day of the season. That team had 91 points, and missed out by just one.

Ferguson had little vision, no real grasp of the salary cap, made poor trades, was worse in the free agent market, came off as a stumbler in public and micromanaged the franchise and still had 90- and 91-point seasons with a team he inherited from Quinn. While times change this much is true: Should the Leafs garner 91 points this season, they’ll play in the post-season for the first time since 2004. It’s embarrassing to link Ferguson and Burke in any real way — when you see the kind of foundation and organization the Leafs are trying to build and recall that Ferguson inherited a 100-point team — but in a results-oriented business the numbers are the numbers.

In three of his four years as GM, Ferguson had more points than Burke has had in any Leafs season yet. And that isn’t something anyone wants to be linked with.

THIS AND THAT

A longtime Rick Nash watcher offers a different viewpoint on the most available star at trade deadline time: “Buyer beware,” said the veteran hockey voice ... Can’t see how Columbus benefits from the package of kids and maybe Brandon Dubinsky being talked about in a deal with the New York Rangers. How do you sell a lot of ifs to an already disenchanted fan base? ... Burke said the only reason Toronto fans don’t like Ron Wilson is because of what the media says about him. That’s naive. Surely it has nothing to do with the fact he has yet to make playoffs, does it? ... Paul Holmgren determined in Philadelphia that he couldn’t win with Mike Richards and Jeff Carter in the lineup. Now, his old assistant, Dean Lombardi, has determined in Los Angeles that he can’t win without Richards and Carter. Two words of advice for Lombardi: Early curfew ... The Wojtek Wolski Shuffle: 1. Team acquires him; 2. Team falls in love with his skill set; 3. Team gets disappointed in him; 4. Team gets rid of him. For those counting, that’s four teams in four years for the shootout expert ... The one difference between this year and past years at the trade deadline for Burke: This year he’s a buyer. In the past, he was typically a seller.

HEAR AND THERE

I was 10 years old when the Maple Leafs won their last Stanley Cup. George Armstrong scored into the empty net and my father sent me to bed. A 10-year-old today would have no frame of reference for a Leafs team in the playoffs ... Not that we’re advocating gambling here, but if you had bet $100 on the Red Wings and continued rolling your winnings on the Wings through their 23-game winning streak, you would have ended up with just over $3 million. Then again, in the 24th game, you might have lost it all against the Canucks ... Remember when John Tavares was supposed to be the exception when he was granted early entry in the Ontario Hockey League as a 15-year-old? Well, this year, for the second year in a row, an underage minor midget, Connor McDavid, will be granted early status and almost certainly will be picked first in the OHL selection draft ... For those wondering about Blake Wheeler of the Winnipeg Jets? He was acquired by Rick Dudley, now working for the Leafs ... As I’m watching Toronto play New Jersey on Tuesday night, I’m thinking: How different would the standings be if Wilson coached the Devils and Peter DeBoer coached the Leafs.

SCENE AND HEARD

Have you heard anyone — anyone you know — say that they can’t wait for the PanAm Games in Toronto? All I see coming is excessive government spending at a time when government can’t afford excessive spending ... Apparently everything in life is for sale, including induction in the Basketball Hall of Fame. How else does Nike chairman Phil Knight get elected? ... How old do you want to feel today? Among the most heavily recruited high school football talents in the U.S. is a defensive back named Leon McQuay, grandson of the famous Grey Cup fumbler ... Inspired by the life of Gary Carter, my list of favourite Carters: Butch, Jimmy, Sgt., Linda, June and Anson. My least favourite Carters, and remember this is personal: Vince, Joe, Jeff and Rubin (Hurricane) ... Another reason why I worry about hockey in the U.S.: The most-watched game this year of American television has been the NHL all-star game ... The rumour that won’t go away: The Hamilton Bulldogs will move to Laval to be closer to the Montreal Canadiens paving the way for the OHL’s Erie Otters to move to Hamilton ... Please, can’t we put an end to the three-point game in the NHL? ... Just wondering: Now that the Argos don’t have Rob Murphy, Taylor Robertson or Dominic Picard, who’s going to block for Ricky Ray and Cory Boyd?

AND ANOTHER THING

The real MVP in the National League: Ryan Braun’s lawyers ... There are 30 teams in Major League Baseball: How many would bat Adam Lind fourth?... How bad will it look for the Leafs if they’re out of the playoffs and Winnipeg and Ottawa happen to be in? ... Can’t remember an Oscars night where I have so little emotional attachment to the films nominated. Liked some of them, didn’t love anything ... It would be easy to call Ed Davis a wasted first-round pick for the Raptors last year if the five players drafted before him and the five players drafted after him have contributed next to nothing to their NBA teams. Can you say bad draft? ... Aside from the obvious, another reason to covet winger Dustin Brown, he’s signed for two years after this one at a cap hit of $3.1 million ... The question with Erik Karlsson is if he’s on your Norris Trophy ballot, who’s being left off? Zdena Chara? Shea Weber? Niklas Lidstrom? It’s a question that gets more difficult with each passing week ... Happy birthday to Kelly Gruber (50), Zenon Andrusyshyn (64), Joey Mullen (55), Marshall Faulk (39), Ric Flair (63), and Anders Hedberg (61) ... And hey, whatever became of Rocky Trottier?

GRUMET-MORRIS THE AHL’S LIN?

You have to wonder, in the midst of the Jeremy Lin craze, how many athletes are sitting home and wondering: What if? How many have been passed over without ever receiving the proper opportunity? There’s a 30-year-old goalie in San Antonio, a Harvard grad like Lin, who has kicked around the CHL and ECHL and AHL and Europe, mostly as a second-stringer since being drafted 10 years ago by the goalie-starved Philadelphia Flyers. But suddenly in the past two seasons he’s been money. He has a 30-13-2 won-loss record in the AHL playing for average teams, a goals against average below than 2.3 and a save percentage at higher than .922. His name is Dov Grumet-Morris. Like Tim Thomas, who made the NHL full-time 11 years after being drafted by Quebec, all he needs is a chance. “We like him,” said Florida GM Dale Tallon, just not enough to bring him to the Panthers, though. Lin got his opportunity to play, frankly, because the New York Knicks ran out of players. Somebody, somewhere, in need of goaltending should be giving Grumet-Morris the opportunity to see if all this is real.

ARE VETS HAPPY ABOUT HEMSKY?

If you happen to an all-time great like Martin Brodeur or Chris Pronger; a Vezina Tropny winner and Conn Smyhe winner like Tim Thomas; or an absolute salt-of-the earth veteran leader like Daniel Alfredsson, what are you thinking when you see the never-won-a-thing and always hurt Ales Hemsky signing for money that’s either more than you’re making (in Alfredsson and Pronger’s case) or similar to what you’re being paid (in the case of Brodeur and Thomas). Are you happy the system is rewarding players beyond their abilities? Or do you look at the hockey world with slight disdain and embarrassment, knowing the measurements for contracts are completely out of whack, again. Under any structure in which the NHL operates, a $5 million player must be a star. But every once in a while a team overpays for a Paul Martin or a Brian Gionta and now with Hemsky. And I truly wonder what the most productive players in the game, long term, think of taking home similar money to those who will never come close to matching their accomplishments.

DON’T WAIT FOR FREE AGENCY BURKIE

The best reason Brian Burke needs to trade now: You don’t want him active in NHL free agency come July. So far, Burke’s batting average is below the Mendoza Line when it comes to success with the Leafs in free agency. In fact, in his time here he has committed just under $60 million dollars in contracts to Mike Komisarek, Colby Armstrong, Tim Connolly, Francois Beauchemin, Colton Orr, Mike Brown and Clarke MacArthur. Only MacArthur, a late signing not done by Burke in 2010, has brought real value to the Leafs. And it’s not just the money here — it’s the belief that Komisarek and Armstrong, both given A’s on their jersey, would be difference makers in Toronto. Burke did manage to do what he does best — and that’s trade — when he shipped Beauchemin to Anaheim in a steal of a deal for Joffrey Lupul and Jake Gardiner, with both players exceeding Leafs expectations. Burke is fortunate to work for a hockey club that doesn’t fret over every penny misspent or he would be answering for all those wasted dollars.
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So who is going to make the playoffs this season?

Its tight in both the East and West for those final places. Big wins for both Florida and Washington today. Gives them some breathing space from the pack. Buffalo are on a solid run, and Tampa are doing well. Although big goaiie issues with them. Toronto - no chance. :lol: Winnipeg have a shit road record and most of their games are away from home so I think they are out of it. Outside of the current top 8 in the east, I reckon Buffalo have the best chance of making it, but truth be told I think the top 8 will stay the same until the end of the season. I hope so anyway for Florida's sake!

In the west I think Anaheim below its too much to make up. San jose have a few games in hand which could prove critical. Calgary are on a nice run but I think they will fall short. LA now have some firepower and could sneak in. Don't think Colorado will make it.

Top 8 will be as it stand but with either San Jose or LA instead of Calgary.
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You're not afraid someone will buy them, and try to move them? I'm not talking Brooklyn, but Quebec City, Seattle, Kansas City, etc.

I'm sure the league wants to preserve the history on Long Island, but at some point you'd have to think that they're going to say "enough is enough". Build a building, run the team right, etc.
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WOLF wrote:
You're not afraid someone will buy them, and try to move them? I'm not talking Brooklyn, but Quebec City, Seattle, Kansas City, etc.

I'm sure the league wants to preserve the history on Long Island, but at some point you'd have to think that they're going to say "enough is enough". Build a building, run the team right, etc.
I'm not from Long Island (I'm a western NYer, grew up closer to Toronto), as long as they stayed in the US, I would cheer for them. I have much respect for JT, and want him to succeed. He deserves the chance to.

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Meanwhile, here in Philthadelphia (AKA Hostile City, USA):

Bryzgalov has had three shutouts in a row and needs a little more 30 more shutout minutes to become The Flyers All Time Shutout leader. :shock:

Hopefully that goofy bastard has finally "found himself".
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Another epic fail by Wang's gang last night.
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WOLF wrote:
You're not afraid someone will buy them, and try to move them? I'm not talking Brooklyn, but Quebec City, Seattle, Kansas City, etc.

I'm sure the league wants to preserve the history on Long Island, but at some point you'd have to think that they're going to say "enough is enough". Build a building, run the team right, etc.
Was I drunk and/or dreaming the other night when I heard them talking on Coach's Corner about a secret discussion that went on between NHL brass and people in Saskatoon about the possibility of bringing an NHL team to Saskatchewan?The economy there is supposedly booming now and with over 400,000 people in the general area the people there are convinced they can support a team the same way Winnipeg has.
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Gibsonite wrote:
WOLF wrote:
You're not afraid someone will buy them, and try to move them? I'm not talking Brooklyn, but Quebec City, Seattle, Kansas City, etc.

I'm sure the league wants to preserve the history on Long Island, but at some point you'd have to think that they're going to say "enough is enough". Build a building, run the team right, etc.
Was I drunk and/or dreaming the other night when I heard them talking on Coach's Corner about a secret discussion that went on between NHL brass and people in Saskatoon about the possibility of bringing an NHL team to Saskatchewan?The economy there is supposedly booming now and with over 400,000 people in the general area the people there are convinced they can support a team the same way Winnipeg has.
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You're not afraid someone will buy them, and try to move them? I'm not talking Brooklyn, but Quebec City, Seattle, Kansas City, etc.

I'm sure the league wants to preserve the history on Long Island, but at some point you'd have to think that they're going to say "enough is enough". Build a building, run the team right, etc.
Was I drunk and/or dreaming the other night when I heard them talking on Coach's Corner about a secret discussion that went on between NHL brass and people in Saskatoon about the possibility of bringing an NHL team to Saskatchewan?The economy there is supposedly booming now and with over 400,000 people in the general area the people there are convinced they can support a team the same way Winnipeg has.
- The meetings aren't so secret
- The economy is growing by leaps and bounds there
- A provincial team, like the Saskatchewan Roughriders CFL squad, would be embraced by the entire province
- The St-Louis Blues almost moved there in the 80's (maybe it was early 90's)

There's a decent enough arena in Saskatoon, but I still see them further down the list than many of the other cities mentionned.
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The B's are toast.
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chungasrevenge wrote:The B's are toast.
Rask getting hurt really was the last straw.
Thomas needs rest in the worst way, but Turco is garbage.
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Lardbucket wrote:
chungasrevenge wrote:The B's are toast.
Rask getting hurt really was the last straw.
Thomas needs rest in the worst way, but Turco is garbage.
Yeah, I had that sickening feeling that the season was over when he went down. Turco is beyond garbage. Goaltending aside, they have nothing left in the tank. It's been almost sad the last couple of weeks. They're just getting toyed with at this point.
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chungasrevenge wrote:
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chungasrevenge wrote:The B's are toast.
Rask getting hurt really was the last straw.
Thomas needs rest in the worst way, but Turco is garbage.
Yeah, I had that sickening feeling that the season was over when he went down. Turco is beyond garbage. Goaltending aside, they have nothing left in the tank. It's been almost sad the last couple of weeks. They're just getting toyed with at this point.
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My Rangers are starting to look like what they really are: 4 lines of 3rd liners.
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Last night Bryz set the shutout minutes record for Philly and probably would have even had another complete shutout if the defense wouldn't have failed him in the 3rd. Glad to see him come around...hope it lasts.
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Tommy wrote:My Rangers are starting to look like what they really are: 4 lines of 3rd liners.
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Tommy wrote:My Rangers are starting to look like what they really are: 4 lines of 3rd liners.
They are living proof that you can win games with an elite goalie and lots of toughness. They are what the Isles used to be. Sad.
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Nothing like a game against the Leafs to get back on track..

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chungasrevenge wrote:Nothing like a game against the Leafs to get back on track..

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How Brian Burke and his cronies keep their jobs is beyond me. He's done NOTHING since the lockout, and the Leafs are no closer to making the playoffs then they were 4-5 years ago. Is the future really Kessel, Kadri, Gardiner, and Reimer?

Like I said. Down year for the Habs, but they at least have the tools to put it together.

Maybe Burke will trade his next two first rounders for Alex Semin, or someone, in the off-season.

I still shake my head: Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton, and a 2nd rounder, for Kessel. A trade with a division rival no less...
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WOLF wrote:
chungasrevenge wrote:Nothing like a game against the Leafs to get back on track..

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How Brian Burke and his cronies keep their jobs is beyond me. He's done NOTHING since the lockout, and the Leafs are no closer to making the playoffs then they were 4-5 years ago. Is the future really Kessel, Kadri, Gardiner, and Reimer?

Like I said. Down year for the Habs, but they at least have the tools to put it together.

Maybe Burke will trade his next two first rounders for Alex Semin, or someone, in the off-season.

I still shake my head: Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton, and a 2nd rounder, for Kessel. A trade with a division rival no less...
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That son of a bitch Duncan Keith had better get suspended for his hit on Daniel Sedin today.
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Royal Dudeness wrote:That son of a bitch Duncan Keith had better get suspended for his hit on Daniel Sedin today.
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Royal Dudeness wrote:That son of a bitch Duncan Keith had better get suspended for his hit on Daniel Sedin today.
Keith allowed the bitchy Canucks to finally get under his skin. Very disappointed in Duncan Keith for doing that. Alexander Burrows is the epitome of everything I hate about those fucking Canucks. I think that rivalry has surpassed Hawks/Red Wings for Chicagoans.
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johnk5150 wrote:
Royal Dudeness wrote:That son of a bitch Duncan Keith had better get suspended for his hit on Daniel Sedin today.
Keith allowed the bitchy Canucks to finally get under his skin. Very disappointed in Duncan Keith for doing that. Alexander Burrows is the epitome of everything I hate about those fucking Canucks. I think that rivalry has surpassed Hawks/Red Wings for Chicagoans.

Agreed, he and Lapierre..fuck those guys :lol:
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