The NFL Thread

[bane]

Yep. Schaub was abysmal last night. That was the worst Ive seen him play since his first year here. He doesn't seem to deal with the spotlight very well. It doesn't bode well for the playoffs.

[Crazy Levi]

RG3 has Grade 1 sprain of LCL

A sprain is a tear. That's bad.

According to the WAshington Post, it's not a tear, it's a stretch.

That's good.

"A Grade 1 sprain is the least severe type of that injury. The ligament is merely stretched, not partially torn."

Even with the Skins needing to win out of course you want to err on the side of caution. But I think He'll play on Sunday.

Even if he doesn't, I think the Skins have a great chance to win. Some ESPN idiot was saying that this would completely go against everything the Skins have done all season, and basically they are starting their offense from scratch.

bullshit. The Skins are built on the power run, and setting up the pass with the play action. Of course Cousins vs. Rg3 - or a slower RG3 in a brace - makes things easier on the D, but I don't think they will need to radically change the game plan. Establish the run, which will free up the pass. I guess a lot of it will depend on how Cousin's play action fake to the RB is.

RG3's is the best I've ever seen.

[AliceManson]

Wow. Jerry Brown's family is picking up Josh Brent at the airport and he will be sitting with the family at the funeral. Talk about forgiveness.

Damn, even after this came to light.





The Dallas Morning News interviewed Stacee McWilliams, an eyewitness to the crash scene. In a four-minute video interview, McWilliams described driving up on the scene of the accident shortly after the incident took place. She described the situation saying Brent had already exited the mangled vehicle and was walking around while Brown remained in the vehicle. Another person had stopped at the scene and already dialed 911.

McWilliams arrived seeing Brent in the street and didn’t realize there was another passenger still in the car. McWilliams then described hearing Brown call out from the vehicle for help with Brent allegedly unwilling to tend to his friend and teammate.

“Josh looked at me and he said ‘(Brown) won’t get out of the car,’” McWilliams said. “And I said ‘well you can’t just leave him in there and let him die, you’ve got to help him. Go get him.’ I commanded him several times and Josh looked at me again and he said ‘he won’t get out of the car’ and I told him ‘you can’t stand here and watch him die. You’ve got to get him out.’ He still didn’t move so I thought he wasn’t going to help at all.”

McWilliams said as she returned to her car to retrieve her cell phone, Brent finally did tend to Brown and pulled him from the burning wreckage.

“I want people to understand that Josh Brent is not a hero,” McWilliams said. “I keep hearing reports of how he was there to pull his friend from the fire but he had to be coerced and pushed and begged and pleaded to get his friend out of the fire and when he pulled him out, he just left him in the street. He didn’t tell him ‘hang in there, help is on the way.’ Nothing. He just left him there and I want the magnitude of that to be understood.”



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[bane]

Wow. Jerry Brown's family is picking up Josh Brent at the airport and he will be sitting with the family at the funeral. Talk about forgiveness.

Damn, even after this came to light.





The Dallas Morning News interviewed Stacee McWilliams, an eyewitness to the crash scene. In a four-minute video interview, McWilliams described driving up on the scene of the accident shortly after the incident took place. She described the situation saying Brent had already exited the mangled vehicle and was walking around while Brown remained in the vehicle. Another person had stopped at the scene and already dialed 911.

McWilliams arrived seeing Brent in the street and didn’t realize there was another passenger still in the car. McWilliams then described hearing Brown call out from the vehicle for help with Brent allegedly unwilling to tend to his friend and teammate.

“Josh looked at me and he said ‘(Brown) won’t get out of the car,’” McWilliams said. “And I said ‘well you can’t just leave him in there and let him die, you’ve got to help him. Go get him.’ I commanded him several times and Josh looked at me again and he said ‘he won’t get out of the car’ and I told him ‘you can’t stand here and watch him die. You’ve got to get him out.’ He still didn’t move so I thought he wasn’t going to help at all.”

McWilliams said as she returned to her car to retrieve her cell phone, Brent finally did tend to Brown and pulled him from the burning wreckage.

“I want people to understand that Josh Brent is not a hero,” McWilliams said. “I keep hearing reports of how he was there to pull his friend from the fire but he had to be coerced and pushed and begged and pleaded to get his friend out of the fire and when he pulled him out, he just left him in the street. He didn’t tell him ‘hang in there, help is on the way.’ Nothing. He just left him there and I want the magnitude of that to be understood.”



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I don't know how much you can read into that. He'd just been in a really bad accident and was apparently drunk. Odds are he wasn't thinking all that straight.

[Tenacious_Dio]

While all the reports on Robert Griffin III seemed positive yesterday, Redskins wide receiver Pierre Garcon may have let the cat out of the bag regarding his quarterback’s status for this week’s game.

Talking about their meeting with Cleveland, he said on ESPN’s SportsCenter (via CSNWashington.com) “We have a little bit tougher of a task with Kirk starting.”

“We have to play well around Kirk so Kirk doesn’t feel like he has to save the team and help him to be a comfortable as possible,” he continued.

“Kirk” would be Kirk Cousins, the rookie backup, and it’s unclear if Garcon just misspoke or was preparing for something the players are planning on happening.

Coach Mike Shanahan said he didn’t rule Griffin out with a knee sprain, but didn’t rule him in, either.

[WTF]

While scouring the net for all I can read about last night's game (I didn't get to watch it), I came across this gem:

–After the Ryan Mallett interception, I was really hoping for a quick Houston score so Belichick would re-insert Brady, just for the slight chance of hearing a repeat of my favorite Belichick press conference ever. That moment came in Miami in ’07, when Belichick put Brady back into the game after Matt Cassel threw a pick-six to cut the Patriots’ lead to (coincidentally) 42-14 with 10:30 left in the game.

“One more turnover and it’s a 14-point game in the middle of the fourth quarter,” Belichick angrily (and inaccurately) answered a reporter. Remember, this was during the height of the running-up-the-score controversy, so Belichick wasn’t having any of it when a reporter kept telling the coach that Brady went back into the game after being taken out. It all led to the most legendary of legendary Belichick comments:

“I was at the game.”

Boom.

Sadly, there was no such re-emergence of Brady on Monday night, but Belichick did provide a great answer when asked if any player in the league as valuable as Brady.

“I don’t know,” the coach nonchalantly answered. “We don’t play everybody in the league.”

[Crazy Levi]

While all the reports on Robert Griffin III seemed positive yesterday, Redskins wide receiver Pierre Garcon may have let the cat out of the bag regarding his quarterback’s status for this week’s game.

Talking about their meeting with Cleveland, he said on ESPN’s SportsCenter (via CSNWashington.com) “We have a little bit tougher of a task with Kirk starting.”

“We have to play well around Kirk so Kirk doesn’t feel like he has to save the team and help him to be a comfortable as possible,” he continued.

“Kirk” would be Kirk Cousins, the rookie backup, and it’s unclear if Garcon just misspoke or was preparing for something the players are planning on happening.

Coach Mike Shanahan said he didn’t rule Griffin out with a knee sprain, but didn’t rule him in, either.

Maybe. Or maybe Shanahan is telling his players to "leak" shit like that confuse the Browns' D coordinator.

[NeverSurrender]

Wow. Jerry Brown's family is picking up Josh Brent at the airport and he will be sitting with the family at the funeral. Talk about forgiveness.

Damn, even after this came to light.





The Dallas Morning News interviewed Stacee McWilliams, an eyewitness to the crash scene. In a four-minute video interview, McWilliams described driving up on the scene of the accident shortly after the incident took place. She described the situation saying Brent had already exited the mangled vehicle and was walking around while Brown remained in the vehicle. Another person had stopped at the scene and already dialed 911.

McWilliams arrived seeing Brent in the street and didn’t realize there was another passenger still in the car. McWilliams then described hearing Brown call out from the vehicle for help with Brent allegedly unwilling to tend to his friend and teammate.

“Josh looked at me and he said ‘(Brown) won’t get out of the car,’” McWilliams said. “And I said ‘well you can’t just leave him in there and let him die, you’ve got to help him. Go get him.’ I commanded him several times and Josh looked at me again and he said ‘he won’t get out of the car’ and I told him ‘you can’t stand here and watch him die. You’ve got to get him out.’ He still didn’t move so I thought he wasn’t going to help at all.”

McWilliams said as she returned to her car to retrieve her cell phone, Brent finally did tend to Brown and pulled him from the burning wreckage.

“I want people to understand that Josh Brent is not a hero,” McWilliams said. “I keep hearing reports of how he was there to pull his friend from the fire but he had to be coerced and pushed and begged and pleaded to get his friend out of the fire and when he pulled him out, he just left him in the street. He didn’t tell him ‘hang in there, help is on the way.’ Nothing. He just left him there and I want the magnitude of that to be understood.”



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yeah because when people flip their car, they are always thinking straight.

[Crazy Levi]

I think you are forgetting something here Neversurrender.

Brent is BLACK.

[WTF]

I think you are forgetting something here Neversurrender.

Brent is BLACK.

So is Stacee McWilliams.

[AliceManson]

Wow. Jerry Brown's family is picking up Josh Brent at the airport and he will be sitting with the family at the funeral. Talk about forgiveness.

Damn, even after this came to light.





The Dallas Morning News interviewed Stacee McWilliams, an eyewitness to the crash scene. In a four-minute video interview, McWilliams described driving up on the scene of the accident shortly after the incident took place. She described the situation saying Brent had already exited the mangled vehicle and was walking around while Brown remained in the vehicle. Another person had stopped at the scene and already dialed 911.

McWilliams arrived seeing Brent in the street and didn’t realize there was another passenger still in the car. McWilliams then described hearing Brown call out from the vehicle for help with Brent allegedly unwilling to tend to his friend and teammate.

“Josh looked at me and he said ‘(Brown) won’t get out of the car,’” McWilliams said. “And I said ‘well you can’t just leave him in there and let him die, you’ve got to help him. Go get him.’ I commanded him several times and Josh looked at me again and he said ‘he won’t get out of the car’ and I told him ‘you can’t stand here and watch him die. You’ve got to get him out.’ He still didn’t move so I thought he wasn’t going to help at all.”

McWilliams said as she returned to her car to retrieve her cell phone, Brent finally did tend to Brown and pulled him from the burning wreckage.

“I want people to understand that Josh Brent is not a hero,” McWilliams said. “I keep hearing reports of how he was there to pull his friend from the fire but he had to be coerced and pushed and begged and pleaded to get his friend out of the fire and when he pulled him out, he just left him in the street. He didn’t tell him ‘hang in there, help is on the way.’ Nothing. He just left him there and I want the magnitude of that to be understood.”



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yeah because when people flip their car, they are always thinking straight.

You would be the expert. What is the new tally on Vikings' DUIs? Not that it matters, they are so far ahead of other teams, the Cowboys or Bengals have no chance in catching up.

[NeverSurrender]

I hardly even drink, but i have been in a couple traffic wrecks, and know how I am in the aftermath.

I also believe if you get in a car with a person you knew had been drinking all night, and you end up dead, it's just as much your fault as it is his.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

I think you are forgetting something here Neversurrender.

Brent is BLACK.

It's a good goddamn thing that car didn't go in a canal or river. They'd have two dead negroes instead of just one.

[NeverSurrender]

Still amazes me that Michael Phelps got more shit for a bong rip than he did a DUI.

[johnk5150]

I hardly even drink, but i have been in a couple traffic wrecks, and know how I am in the aftermath.

I also believe if you get in a car with a person you knew had been drinking all night, and you end up dead, it's just as much your fault as it is his.

A Viking fan that doesn't drink? How do you make it through the day?

[NeverSurrender]

I hardly even drink, but i have been in a couple traffic wrecks, and know how I am in the aftermath.

I also believe if you get in a car with a person you knew had been drinking all night, and you end up dead, it's just as much your fault as it is his.

A Viking fan that doesn't drink? How do you make it through the day?

I smoke killer weed. A lot of it. And i do drink, just rarely. I get drunk once or twice a year and drink about once a month. Usually a drink or two.

[NeverSurrender]

Only Adrian Peterson, O.J. Simpson and Jim Brown have run for 1,600, avg'd 6.0 and had 10+ TDs through first 13 games of a season.

After 35 years of being a fan, I finally have a RB on my team that is considered with the greats.

Since, I always loved Payton, Campbell, Dorsett, Dickerson and Sanders, I'm stoked.

[johnk5150]

Since, I always loved Payton,

Words can't express how happy I was he finally had a ring after killing himself for that pile of shit team for years.

[NeverSurrender]

He was the shit. When you think of back then, the RBS we watched. Fuck. Ad might be the last of the great ones with the way the game is played.

Nobody will every tell me that there was a better football player on earth than Walter Payton.

[WTF]

He was the shit. When you think of back then, the RBS we watched. Fuck. Ad might be the last of the great ones with the way the game is played.

Nobody will every tell me that there was a better football player on earth than Walter Payton.

The best ever, to me.

Two backs whose careers got cut way too short: Bo Jackson and Billy Sims.

[bane]

He was the shit. When you think of back then, the RBS we watched. Fuck. Ad might be the last of the great ones with the way the game is played.

Nobody will every tell me that there was a better football player on earth than Walter Payton.

The best ever, to me.

Two backs whose careers got cut way too short: Bo Jackson and Billy Sims.

I think Bo Jackson might have been an all time great if he hadn't destroyed that hip. That guy was so damn good. Peyton is way up there for me too. I don't really have a "best", more of a group of "bests". He's definitely one of them. Peterson is well on his way to joining them.

[johnk5150]

He was the shit. When you think of back then, the RBS we watched. Fuck. Ad might be the last of the great ones with the way the game is played.

Nobody will every tell me that there was a better football player on earth than Walter Payton.

Ditka said the same. Still talks about how heart broken he was that Walter didn't score in the SB.

The way the position has changed makes what Adrian Peterson is doing that much more special. Enjoy him while you can. I hate watching him run against the Bears, but love watching him run. I think he may be FASTER than ever.

What he's doing is amazing.

[NeverSurrender]

I guess that Earl Campbell show that was on NBC sports last night got me thinking and typing, lol.

[bane]

I guess that Earl Campbell show that was on NBC sports last night got me thinking and typing, lol.

Campbell was a total bad ass. Some of those old clips of him mowing over linebackers like they were tissue paper are amazing to watch. Really sad to see how beaten down he became, but good to see him doing a little better these days.

[Machado]

I guess that Earl Campbell show that was on NBC sports last night got me thinking and typing, lol.

Campbell was a total bad ass. Some of those old clips of him mowing over linebackers like they were tissue paper are amazing to watch. Really sad to see how beaten down he became, but good to see him doing a little better these days.

I saw the show over the weekend. Never gets old looking at him run the ball with so much power and run over defenders all over the field.

Some of the greatest NFL runs of all-time are courtesy of #34.

[NeverSurrender]

I love them showing him hanging out with Willie. No wonder he's doing better. he's hitting the killer.

[NeverSurrender]

The 8 Viking fans who still believe in Christian Plunder are driving me insane.

[dtmfs]

Two backs whose careers got cut way too short: Bo Jackson and Billy Sims.

And another who cut his own short, Jim Brown, that dude was a Beast, Ricky Williams according to Brown had the best tools He ever saw in a RB, Brown said something to the effect that Williams was rare in that He was so big but could make the moves of a smaller back, He of course cut his own career short as well in the prime of his career.

Speaking of great All time RB's wheres everyone rank LT, fell pretty fast but for a stretch there He looked primed to possibly become the GOAT.

[bane]

LT was very good for a handful of seasons, but he fell off too quickly, like about a million other guys. I think of him as just another good back.

[Machado]

Two backs whose careers got cut way too short: Bo Jackson and Billy Sims.

And another who cut his own short, Jim Brown, that dude was a Beast, Ricky Williams according to Brown had the best tools He ever saw in a RB, Brown said something to the effect that Williams was rare in that He was so big but could make the moves of a smaller back, He of course cut his own career short as well in the prime of his career.

Speaking of great All time RB's wheres everyone rank LT, fell pretty fast but for a stretch there He looked primed to possibly become the GOAT.

Speaking of Bo, tonight ESPN will re-air the "You Don't Know Bo" documentary film.
Looking forward to this.