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Tommy wrote:No but I can lay it at the feet of 5 or 6 teams in the top 15 when I'm not so sure if it's accurate since they only play each other and scrubs.


It's like the "AL East is the best". OK, 3 legit teams. Then the always fail Blue Jays and the notorious Orioles. Playing an actual tournament has AL East team not making it through the ALCS in 2 years. And I'm a Yankee fan.

I'm really just bitching that there's no tournament. And the "well, it's flawed but..." doesn't really hold water. It's a complete bullshit system with no rhyme or reason.
Theres no doubt it could be better...I relish having a BCS Playoff, not just basing everything on 2 polls and a computer. What hinders this, and people hate to admit it, is the colleges themselves. Every Division 1 school out there hopes they can get into a Major BCS Bowl (Rose, Sugar, Orange & Fiesta), but, they will also settle for the lesser bowls as well since there is still millions of $$ on the table! If a playoff system was enacted tha did away with the Bowl Games, all of College Football would revolt.

I find myself wanting to "bridge" the 2 systems... either have a 16/32 team playoff, using #`s 1 & 2 from each Conference, or use the Conference Champions and seed them according to BCS Computations we use now. There are presently 11 Conferences, (ACC, Big 12, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-12, SEC, CUSA,MAC, MWC, SBC, WAC), add a "false" conference for teams like Notre Dame, Airforce and Army, and that rounds out to 12 possible conferences. Utilize 11 single "Bowl Playoff Games" starting 2 weeks after the Conference Championship games, play 3 games per day for a week for the first set and continue on until left with 2 teams...those 2 teams play for the BCS National Championship.

It doesnt matter in the end, unless Congress steps in, you will have the BCS as it is right now for the foreseeable future...and it is a faulty system at best.
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The current BCS contract expires in 2014.
So there are a few more years of this non-sense the fans like us
will have to endure.
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Machado wrote:The current BCS contract expires in 2014.
So there are a few more years of this non-sense the fans like us
will have to endure.
Whats really scary, is we dont have any idea what we might get in its place...other than it will not be a playoff system.

The BCS Championship game as a payout of $18 - $21 million this year...that is a ton of money for the NCAA to walk away from, let alone the other 4 BCS Bowl payouts for a combined $68 million... :shock:
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Theres no doubt it could be better...I relish having a BCS Playoff, not just basing everything on 2 polls and a computer. What hinders this, and people hate to admit it, is the colleges themselves. Every Division 1 school out there hopes they can get into a Major BCS Bowl (Rose, Sugar, Orange & Fiesta), but, they will also settle for the lesser bowls as well since there is still millions of $$ on the table! If a playoff system was enacted tha did away with the Bowl Games, all of College Football would revolt.

I find myself wanting to "bridge" the 2 systems... either have a 16/32 team playoff, using #`s 1 & 2 from each Conference, or use the Conference Champions and seed them according to BCS Computations we use now. There are presently 11 Conferences, (ACC, Big 12, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-12, SEC, CUSA,MAC, MWC, SBC, WAC), add a "false" conference for teams like Notre Dame, Airforce and Army, and that rounds out to 12 possible conferences. Utilize 11 single "Bowl Playoff Games" starting 2 weeks after the Conference Championship games, play 3 games per day for a week for the first set and continue on until left with 2 teams...those 2 teams play for the BCS National Championship.

It doesnt matter in the end, unless Congress steps in, you will have the BCS as it is right now for the foreseeable future...and it is a faulty system at best.

There we go, now we're talking.

IMO, 11 Conference Champs and 5 at-large. 16 teams, I can deal with that. There could still be bowl games. The advertising $ for a playoff, IMO, would be better than individual bowl games. Sometimes I'm not real interested in the big bowl games. It's like 7 vs. 12. Meh. If it doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme, I don't know, maybe I'll watch the 4th quarter.



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Are they somehow better because they happen to win the game that meant the most?

Why does 1 game have much more value over another game, if the opponents are the same?
Because one game is a title game?
Why not ask why the World Series matters more than an inter-league series in July?

Or in seasons where the clear #1 and #2 happen to have played each other, a lower-ranked side should get a shot?

Are you really going there right now?
The BCS system has been flawed for years.
For the legit #1 and #2 team to play in the BCS, the number of things that would have to go right are in the millions.
Therefore, the system will always be flawed and each year there will be a controversy regarding the two teams playing in the BCS title game.

Of course there is... But suggesting the game shouldn't include two teams that have played each other during the season just adds to that.
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Well, for all those "Houston is 12-0 and should get a shot at the title game" criers...have ya been watching Southern Miss dismantle the hype machine of Houston? :shock:

Come on SEC Championship...
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It's AT Houston, too - even worse.
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BodyBagz wrote:Well, for all those "Houston is 12-0 and should get a shot at the title game" criers...have ya been watching Southern Miss dismantle the hype machine of Houston? :shock:

Come on SEC Championship...
LSU better wake-up in time for the start of the 2nd Half.
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LSU better wake-up in time for the start of the 2nd Half.
They probably will..I am sure Les Miles isnt happy with how the Defense has been letting Georgia beat them on key plays. Nor is he too thrilled about not having had an Offensive score yet...

Mark Richt needs to go in at the half and chew his receivers asses...far too many "dropped/missed" passes in the first half. Georgia should have 7 more points than they do right now...
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Bummer about the UH loss. I guess their coach can get to A&M or Az State that much sooner.
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bane wrote:Bummer about the UH loss. I guess their coach can get to A&M or Az State that much sooner.
I hope Sumlin stays with Houston..hes done a hell of a job with their program. If he bolts now, it will look like he was riding Keenums stats to try and get to a bigger school.
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BodyBagz wrote:
bane wrote:Bummer about the UH loss. I guess their coach can get to A&M or Az State that much sooner.
I hope Sumlin stays with Houston..hes done a hell of a job with their program. If he bolts now, it will look like he was riding Keenums stats to try and get to a bigger school.
I hope he sticks around too, but word is Az St offered him 4 million. UH can't come close to matching it. I think he'd be a fool to take the A&M gig because they're going to suck the next few years and it could be a career killer for a coach with such a limited resume', but quadruple salary is quadruple salary.
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bane wrote: I hope he sticks around too, but word is Az St offered him 4 million. UH can't come close to matching it. I think he'd be a fool to take the A&M gig because they're going to suck the next few years and it could be a career killer for a coach with such a limited resume', but quadruple salary is quadruple salary.
I wouldnt mind seeing him come to A&M...they are coming to the SEC, might as well bring in a Coach who knows how to put a winning team together. Like you said, it will be a couple of years before they are "prime time", but with a good coach with a good pedigree, and the Texas Recruiting network connections that come from A&M, they could potentially be ready for a good run in 2014-15.... 8)

I wonder if UCLA has any interest in him as well...thats another "storied" program that has been in a shitty rut for a few years... :?
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There's been some buzz about UCLA, but I think that's a lateral move. Az State and A&M are both upward moves.
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BodyBagz wrote:I wonder if UCLA has any interest in him as well...thats another "storied" program that has been in a shitty rut for a few years... :?
A "few," as in since 1998 (with the exception of 2005)?
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Maybe LSU can spot Bama 40 points and it'll get interesting by the 4th quarter.
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Theres enough vacancies in Div 1 right now that I would imagine Sumlin can have his pick...and I would also imagine Houston is still in his sights as well. I really would like to see him stay a couple more years to see whether or not all of this success this year was all on Keenums back.

Right now, the most important game of the season is being played...OK vs OSU...OSU holds its BCS Championship bid in its own hands...again... :lol:
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BodyBagz wrote:Right now, the most important game of the season is being played...OK vs OSU...OSU holds its BCS Championship bid in its own hands...again... :lol:
Pokes are gettin' it done, so far.

17-0 just before half.


Make that 24-0.

The rout is on.
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BodyBagz wrote:Theres enough vacancies in Div 1 right now that I would imagine Sumlin can have his pick...and I would also imagine Houston is still in his sights as well. I really would like to see him stay a couple more years to see whether or not all of this success this year was all on Keenums back.

Right now, the most important game of the season is being played...OK vs OSU...OSU holds its BCS Championship bid in its own hands...again... :lol:
I thought it was pretty much set in stone that it was gonna be Bama? I'm with Exit , if it's an LSU Alabama rematch, I'm headed to Blockbuster or something. I'll read about it the next day. Zero desire to see that. The last one bored the shit out of me.
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Landy Jones FAIL = 34-3 Pokes.

Va Tech gettin' their asses whupped, too.

It's a good night.
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bane wrote:
BodyBagz wrote:Theres enough vacancies in Div 1 right now that I would imagine Sumlin can have his pick...and I would also imagine Houston is still in his sights as well. I really would like to see him stay a couple more years to see whether or not all of this success this year was all on Keenums back.

Right now, the most important game of the season is being played...OK vs OSU...OSU holds its BCS Championship bid in its own hands...again... :lol:
I thought it was pretty much set in stone that it was gonna be Bama? I'm with Exit , if it's an LSU Alabama rematch, I'm headed to Blockbuster or something. I'll read about it the next day. Zero desire to see that. The last one bored the shit out of me.
Well, thats the thing..its "supposed" to be a done deal since the BCS goes off the regular season, which everyone else in the country finished last week...except OU and OSU. So, as of right now in the BCS Poll, Alabama is the consensus #2 with a "supposed" insurmountable lead over OSU...but, since the final poll wont be done until after this game between OU and OSU, there is a chance based on the Bedlam game that the human voters can push OSU ahead of Bama.

The way OSU is playing tonight, I can see it happening...they are totally fucking the Sooners in every orifice... :shock:
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Well, 44 - 10 is a hell of a statement coming from the Big XII Champions, the OSU Cowboys... :shock:

Its in the hands of the human voters now. I will say this, I would definitely watch LSU vs OSU...OSU`s Offense and Defense both looked good tonight.
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BodyBagz wrote:Well, 44 - 10 is a hell of a statement coming from the Big XII Champions, the OSU Cowboys... :shock:

Its in the hands of the human voters now. I will say this, I would definitely watch LSU vs OSU...OSU`s Offense and Defense both looked good tonight.
Congrats to OSU. To be honest, I think Bama is more deserving. I just don't want to have another field goal fest for the BCS Championship game. OSU vs LSU would be more entertaining IMO and since I don't have a rooting interest either way, I'd prefer a more watchable game.
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bane wrote:
BodyBagz wrote:Well, 44 - 10 is a hell of a statement coming from the Big XII Champions, the OSU Cowboys... :shock:

Its in the hands of the human voters now. I will say this, I would definitely watch LSU vs OSU...OSU`s Offense and Defense both looked good tonight.
Congrats to OSU. To be honest, I think Bama is more deserving. I just don't want to have another field goal fest for the BCS Championship game. OSU vs LSU would be more entertaining IMO and since I don't have a rooting interest either way, I'd prefer a more watchable game.
I bleed Crimson Tide...and this is actually tearing me up as a fan...
I want Bama in that game because I know they beat themselves in the first game, and I believe they will play the title game differently, and can beat LSU. But, I also despise the BCS system, and if Bama does get the nod, then it just goes to show that the BCS is truly flawed. If you look at Bama`s schedule vs OSu`s, OSU did beat more ranked teams than Bama, as well as Bama having some real powder puff teams on the schedule. That means OSU should get the nod and leap-frog...

No matter what, I think this years BCS title game will be one of the better, more exciting games in memory.

Also, if Bama does get the nod, and does beat LSU...do you split the title since both teams will be 1 loss teams?
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Also, if Bama does get the nod, and does beat LSU...do you split the title since both teams will be 1 loss teams?


Nah. It's one game head to head for the championship. Once you get in, season record goes out the window. You may have some LSU fans griping about it under that scenario, but I don't think anybody else would agree with them.
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Well, its official, #1 LSU will face #2 Alabama in the BCS National Championship!

Whew...the margin between Alabama and OSU looks like this...Alabama -.944, OSU .932...very, very close...
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I have watched college football for over 30 years. It's not my favorite sport, but I do like it. It's the only sport I cheer for two different teams in. I think I've watched my last college football game. At least until tney get a playoff. At the very least I'm not going to wtach this steaming pile of corporate crap.
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NeverSurrender wrote:I have watched college football for over 30 years. It's not my favorite sport, but I do like it. It's the only sport I cheer for two different teams in. I think I've watched my last college football game. At least until tney get a playoff. At the very least I'm not going to wtach this steaming pile of corporate crap.
I'll watch because I have an addiction, but you are correct.
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The BCS is a fraud. How LSU VS Bama is the title game is absurd.
I hate OU State(Sooner fan), but that team certainly does deserve to be ranked #2 and play against LSU.

There is an extreme bias out there and those people should all lose their job and be replaced with sound minds.
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Machado wrote:The BCS is a fraud. How LSU VS Bama is the title game is absurd.
I hate OU State(Sooner fan), but that team certainly does deserve to be ranked #2 and play against LSU.

There is an extreme bias out there and those people should all lose their job and be replaced with sound minds.
This will be the least watched BVS title game yet, and it might actually help us out with getting a playoff. Hopefully this will be the final straw.
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