Brady - Best ever

[eddie lee roth]

I have trouble picking a qb from this era because they protect the qbs too much, and the rules are geared to favor the offense and most definitely the passing game.

You have trouble picking a QB cause you've never met a story you couldn't find some kind of negative way to bitch about something.

It must suck to be you, you miserable fat truther.

[NeverSurrender]

I have trouble picking a qb from this era because they protect the qbs too much, and the rules are geared to favor the offense and most definitely the passing game.

You have trouble picking a QB cause you've never met a story you couldn't find some kind of negative way to bitch about something.

It must suck to be you, you miserable fat truther.

You gotta' love the guy that misquotes you, calls you names because you don't agree with him calling you miserable.


"Man, these hot dogs have different ingredients than back in the day and don't taste the same. They just aren't as good."


You useless fat motherfucker, why do you have to be so negative?



If Peter Caroll tells his OC what a dumb play call that is, and tells him to hand the ball to Lynch you all would be bashing and laughing at Brady.

[NeverSurrender]

Football then:



NO FLAG!!

Today:



15 yards, personal foul!!

Remember folks, if you don't want to automatically make the 2nd guy king of all time you're a "fat negative truther."

[Facedown]

Football then: No free agency

[NeverSurrender]

Football then: No free agency

Truth. And all the defenses he played had free agents coming and going too.

Most impressive thing about Brady is how he has played well with a multitude of players coming and going. And except for having Moss, for a couple years has never had great WRS.

IMO, still doesn't mean as much as putting dresses on the qbs and changing the game from "Are you afraid to go over the middle" to "The gameplan is to go over the middle." A

Back in the day his little wrs and tes would have been blown to smithereens doing what they do today. That's a pretty big difference, imo. And of course Brady wouldn't have been awarded a first down every time somebody grazed his facemask.

Like Cris Carter said, it doesn't matter what any of us say, because when they put you in the HOF, they just talk about they were all the best, not who was the beat amongst themselves.

[Rorysfan]

Yep.. No argument here.

There isn't one to be made..

Unless the butthurt bitches come out with." Oh, he's a cheater".. Blah blah blah..

He's the best ever, hands down.

He is shit without his OL which no one ever mentions. Put him in Baltimore or Pittsburgh with what Flacco and Ben have to deal with and Brady's not even in the league now.

You said this in another thread.

And you're still fucking wrong..

So.. like before, just shut up.

Sorry you can't handle the truth. So kiss my fucking ass.

[Rorysfan]

He is shit without his OL which no one ever mentions.

Nobody mentions it because it's true for every QB.

The point being, which you missed, is that if you put Flacco, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, behind the Pats OL they would have similar results.

[Machado]

He is shit without his OL which no one ever mentions.

Nobody mentions it because it's true for every QB.

The point being, which you missed, is that if you put Flacco, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, behind the Pats OL they would have similar results.

STFU
If if if if if if if if if


Who gives a shit about if if if if if if if if if

If Seattle would have ran the ball 3 times from the 1 yard line at the end of the game they might have won the game. But they did not so it doesn't matter now does it?

[Tenacious_Dio]

He is shit without his OL which no one ever mentions.

Nobody mentions it because it's true for every QB.

The point being, which you missed, is that if you put Flacco, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, behind the Pats OL they would have similar results.

Not really a point, since it's purely speculative.

Look, I hate the Pats as much as anyone. But at this point, it seems kind of silly to try to deny the greatness of Brady & Belichick.

[Crazy Levi]

People love to do this "overrated" shit.

Before the internet existed, I wasn't aware that everything, ever, was overrated.

While also at the same time being underrated.

Tom Brady is overrated? Yeah, so are the Beatles. And blowjobs.

But when things are that popular/successful/awesome there comes a point where the concept of overrated/underrated is simply irrelevant.

Tom Brady is one of the best QBs of all time and you'd have to be extremely bored or contrarian to argue otherwise. Saying these things are overrated doesn't make you smarter than everyone else in the room. Nobody buys it.

[Bludegeon]

Sorry you can't handle the truth. So kiss my fucking ass.

Truth.? LOL>..

You're as blind as Helen Keller and even more stoned and drunk than Keith Richards on his worse day. You have no fucking clue. LOL

[Bludegeon]

Sorry you can't handle the truth. So kiss my fucking ass.

Truth.? LOL>..

You're as blind as Helen Keller and even more stoned and drunk than Keith Richards on his worse day. You have no fucking clue. LOL

[veritas]

People love to do this "overrated" shit.

Before the internet existed, I wasn't aware that everything, ever, was overrated.

While also at the same time being underrated.

Tom Brady is overrated? Yeah, so are the Beatles. And blowjobs.

But when things are that popular/successful/awesome there comes a point where the concept of overrated/underrated is simply irrelevant.

Tom Brady is one of the best QBs of all time and you'd have to be extremely bored or contrarian to argue otherwise. Saying these things are overrated doesn't make you smarter than everyone else in the room. Nobody buys it.

perfectly stated.

[NeverSurrender]

Every qb in the conversation has had great o-lines and great defensive units.

[dtmfs]

The "cheaters" thing is only going to affect the legacy on BB and Brady for football morons who are looking for any excuse because they hate these guys no matter what.

Anyone with even a borderline football IQ would be forced to recognize that this run they are on is amazing and is based on great preparation, great coaching, and great execution. Cunts or not, they out-prepare, out-coach, and out-execute the majority of the teams they face -- except for the NY Giants!

I have a lot of respect for brady especially given what he's done with rather average WR's, But they've already determined that the balls were deflated by someone, once the penalties are announced it won't be any different than spygate, HOFers have already said it'll hurt both legacies, I personally don't think it should as they would have killed the colts no matter what but it is what it is, if they get fined, lose picks etc it's just gonna blow up again.

[veritas]

The "cheaters" thing is only going to affect the legacy on BB and Brady for football morons who are looking for any excuse because they hate these guys no matter what.

Anyone with even a borderline football IQ would be forced to recognize that this run they are on is amazing and is based on great preparation, great coaching, and great execution. Cunts or not, they out-prepare, out-coach, and out-execute the majority of the teams they face -- except for the NY Giants!

I have a lot of respect for brady especially given what he's done with rather average WR's, But they've already determined that the balls were deflated by someone, once the penalties are announced it won't be any different than spygate, HOFers have already said it'll hurt both legacies, I personally don't think it should as they would have killed the colts no matter what but it is what it is, if they get fined, lose picks etc it's just gonna blow up again.

Look, I don't even know what to think about the whole deflategate thing anymore - I keep hearing a different fucking "leak" every other day. First it's 11 or 12 deflate down by 2 psi (that sounds suspicious to me). Then it's well, maybe only 1 ball was down 2 psi and the rest were down 1 psi or so. Then it's, well, maybe the officials didn't actually record any measurements at all. Then it's the suspicious ball boy removing the balls from the locker room. But then it's, he was taking a piss for 90 seconds. And then there is the "science" or pseudo-science that a 1 psi deflation can be expected under those conditions.

Soooooo.... I'm going to wait for some confirmed data. If the data suggest pretty strongly that the balls were manipulated, they should be punished. If not, Goodell should take it on the chin for how this was handled.

I generally think the guilty-before-proof thing with the Patriots is bullshit, since I believe the only thing they were ever caught for was the spygate thing.

But, in any event, I think it's beyond stupidity to think that there success has been because of "cheating."

[dtmfs]

Look, I don't even know what to think about the whole deflategate thing anymore - I keep hearing a different fucking "leak" every other day. First it's 11 or 12 deflate down by 2 psi (that sounds suspicious to me). Then it's well, maybe only 1 ball was down 2 psi and the rest were down 1 psi or so. Then it's, well, maybe the officials didn't actually record any measurements at all. Then it's the suspicious ball boy removing the balls from the locker room. But then it's, he was taking a piss for 90 seconds. And then there is the "science" or pseudo-science that a 1 psi deflation can be expected under those conditions.

Soooooo.... I'm going to wait for some confirmed data. If the data suggest pretty strongly that the balls were manipulated, they should be punished. If not, Goodell should take it on the chin for how this was handled.

I generally think the guilty-before-proof thing with the Patriots is bullshit, since I believe the only thing they were ever caught for was the spygate thing.

But, in any event, I think it's beyond stupidity to think that there success has been because of "cheating."

Last I heard ESPN confirmed the balls were manipulated by a person,then I heard about the ballboy and really didn't pay attention to it since. I figured if the investigation found something they'll wait til' a few days after the SB, and I agree if theres no evidence Kraft and the pats deserve an apology.

[johnk5150]

Brady has had Moss and Gronk. They are going to the hall of fame. Brady is Awesome.

[UtahRatt]

I don't give a fuck if Brady deflated the balls in the huddle, it's the equivalent of ripping off a mattress tag. Even if they did, if you don't think every team in the NFL breaks or bends the rules to the fullest you're naive. The NFL head office is dirty just like the owners all the way down to the players.
They'll let players break the substance abuse policy over and over and still comeback with open arms, they'll let players abuse their kids and spouses and still play so deflate my cock with the suction of a dozen cheerleaders over this deflated ball shit.

Apart from the win's, Brady's SB loses was by 3 and 4 points? What about being the only other QB with an undefeated regular season that ended 3 points away from being up there with the 72 Dolphins. Brady put the Pat's ahead but it was Eli's Hail Mary lucky helmet catch to Burress that stole the game away.

Lost the SB or not, 18-1 is a hell of an achievement.