Random observations about the 2009 NFL season.

[Cotton-Gin]

Green Bay is starting to actually play as a team, and should easily get a wild card spot. Oh yeah I'll be there tonight when they play the Ravens!

[Monsters_of_Rock]

It wasn't Brady's fault. The team fucked up.

I'll give you that it isn't all Brady's fault. When they lose they lose as a team, just as when they win they win as a team. However, the fact remains that in 2009 Favre is having a better season than Brady. I don't think that anybody could possibly disagree with that.

[Heenan Snuka]

Green Bay is starting to actually play as a team, and should easily get a wild card spot. Oh yeah I'll be there tonight when they play the Ravens!

cool...please post a reply to this thread when it's over:

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[thejuggernaut]

It wasn't Brady's fault. The team fucked up.

I'll give you that it isn't all Brady's fault. When they lose they lose as a team, just as when they win they win as a team. However, the fact remains that in 2009 Favre is having a better season than Brady. I don't think that anybody could possibly disagree with that.

Still unwilling to admit that interceptions = losses eh ?

[Redman77]

It wasn't Brady's fault. The team fucked up.

I'll give you that it isn't all Brady's fault. When they lose they lose as a team, just as when they win they win as a team. However, the fact remains that in 2009 Favre is having a better season than Brady. I don't think that anybody could possibly disagree with that.

Still unwilling to admit that interceptions = losses eh ?

Will you two make a new thread & stop fucking up this one?

[thejuggernaut]

Will you two make a new thread & stop fucking up this one?

Did the doctor give you a bad prognosis ?

[johnk5150]

Walking out of Soldier Field after a win when everyone knows the Bears suck is much different than exiting after a win when they don't suck. It was like a funeral yesterday.

[Crazy Levi]

Will you two make a new thread & stop fucking up this one?

Did the doctor give you a bad prognosis ?

He's actually got a point. This is the NFL 2009 thread, not the let's watch two idiots argue about Brett Farve and the Patriots for boring page after boring page thread.

[thejuggernaut]

Will you two make a new thread & stop fucking up this one?

Did the doctor give you a bad prognosis ?

He's actually got a point. This is the NFL 2009 thread, not the let's watch two idiots argue about Brett Farve and the Patriots for boring page after boring page thread.

Brady threw picks that cost his team yesterday. So did Favre.

Last I checked, both play in the NFL.

It's pretty simple - you don't want to read it, skip over the big purple font. It's not exactly easy to miss.

[Redman77]

The fact is, I agree with most of what you're saying but I would think that you'd figure out that you're not going to get it through that retards head. The turd has been dropped, time to flush the toilet.

[thejuggernaut]

The fact is, I agree with most of what you're saying but I would think that you'd figure out that you're not going to get it through that retards head. The turd has been dropped, time to flush the toilet.

It's not about changing his mind or getting through to his head.

It's just amusing watching him pretend to have standards, then only apply them when it comes to everyone except the object of his manlove.

[Redman77]

It's just amusing

If you say so.

[thejuggernaut]

It's just amusing

If you say so.

Again, the purple font stands out and is easy to skip over.

If the posts bother you, skip over the purple.

It's really very simple.

[ac/dc sucks]

Green Bay is starting to actually play as a team, and should easily get a wild card spot. Oh yeah I'll be there tonight when they play the Ravens!

I live in Oshkosh. The Packers might end up 8-8. also, Karen Rodgers last game of the year is tonight. Hang on to the ball tonight and ouch!!!
have fun! at least 2 picks and less then 200 yards.

[UtahRatt]

Belichick going on 4th instead of kicking fucked the team again! Funny how everyone is quiet over this failed attempt when that last one didn't leave the headline for 10 days.

That FG would have been the difference.

[Machado]

I'm sick about the Cowboys loss yesterday.
Saw the game via the NFL RED ZONE channel.
The game got away from us and the defense did not do their job very well.
I still am trying to figure out how jacobs scored a touchdown on that pass play?
2 defenders took a bad angle and nobody could catch him from behind until it was too late? Are you kidding me???

[UtahRatt]

And the winner for this years Theisman Award goes to E.J. Henderson.
FUCKING OUCH! Can you say broken femur?

[Machado]

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress says linebacker E.J. Henderson is in "good spirits" after having surgery on his broken left leg.

Henderson stayed in intensive care at a Phoenix-area hospital while the rest of his teammates went home Sunday night after a 30-17 loss to the Cardinals.

Childress said Monday that the surgery went well. But the coach was not ready to say when, if ever, Henderson would be able to return to the field. The gruesome nature of the injury shook up Henderson's teammates. Some of them were near tears in the locker room after the game.

The loss of Henderson overshadowed a disappointing performance by the Vikings, who were dominated in every aspect of the game to fall to 10-2 on the season.

[LAglamrocker]

even Boise State could win the AFC East, Pats dont make the playoffs,ha,ha...send Brady to KC and get the USC backup back!

[Monsters_of_Rock]

It wasn't Brady's fault. The team fucked up.

I'll give you that it isn't all Brady's fault. When they lose they lose as a team, just as when they win they win as a team. However, the fact remains that in 2009 Favre is having a better season than Brady. I don't think that anybody could possibly disagree with that.

Still unwilling to admit that interceptions = losses eh ?

To some degree they do, but it's not quite that simple. There's a lot more to it than that. For example, if I were to tell you that in a given football game one QB threw 3 INTs and the other QB only threw one... you would probably assume that the QB who threw 3 INTs was on the team that lost that game. But if you were to make that assumption you would be wrong in this particular scenario:

Green Bay Packers at Carolina Panthers - September 27th, 1998

So as you see by this example, if a QB is great enough he can overcome the interceptions and lead his team to victory. In this particular example, the same aggressive offensive approach that led to those 3 INTs also led to the 5 TDs and 388 yards. If Favre had played that game more cautiously, he would have thrown fewer INTs but also fewer yards, fewer TD passes, and as a result the Packers would have scored fewer points. Sometimes you'll give a little to get a little. Those INTs are worth the tradeoff for all the yards and TD passes. This is just one example of why I believe that it is more important to throw for the most TD passes than it is to throw for the fewest INTs.

[Monsters_of_Rock]

even Boise State could win the AFC East, Pats dont make the playoffs,ha,ha...send Brady to KC and get the USC backup back!

Hahaha, good one!!!

[thejuggernaut]

Still unwilling to admit that interceptions = losses eh ?

To some degree they do, but it's not quite that simple. There's a lot more to it than that. For example, if I were to tell you that in a given football game one QB threw 3 INTs and the other QB only threw one... you would probably assume that the QB who threw 3 INTs was on the team that lost that game. But if you were to make that assumption you would be wrong in this particular scenario:

Green Bay Packers at Carolina Panthers - September 27th, 1998

So as you see by this example, if a QB is great enough he can overcome the interceptions and lead his team to victory. In this particular example, the same aggressive offensive approach that led to those 3 INTs also led to the 5 TDs and 388 yards. If Favre had played that game more cautiously, he would have thrown fewer INTs but also fewer yards, fewer TD passes, and as a result the Packers would have scored fewer points. Sometimes you'll give a little to get a little. Those INTs are worth the tradeoff for all the yards and TD passes. This is just one example of why I believe that it is more important to throw for the most TD passes than it is to throw for the fewest INTs.

What about when a 10 year veteran throws 6 ints in a game ?

[Monsters_of_Rock]

Still unwilling to admit that interceptions = losses eh ?

To some degree they do, but it's not quite that simple. There's a lot more to it than that. For example, if I were to tell you that in a given football game one QB threw 3 INTs and the other QB only threw one... you would probably assume that the QB who threw 3 INTs was on the team that lost that game. But if you were to make that assumption you would be wrong in this particular scenario:

Green Bay Packers at Carolina Panthers - September 27th, 1998

So as you see by this example, if a QB is great enough he can overcome the interceptions and lead his team to victory. In this particular example, the same aggressive offensive approach that led to those 3 INTs also led to the 5 TDs and 388 yards. If Favre had played that game more cautiously, he would have thrown fewer INTs but also fewer yards, fewer TD passes, and as a result the Packers would have scored fewer points. Sometimes you'll give a little to get a little. Those INTs are worth the tradeoff for all the yards and TD passes. This is just one example of why I believe that it is more important to throw for the most TD passes than it is to throw for the fewest INTs.

What about when a 10 year veteran throws 6 ints in a game ?

In that situation of course you're going to lose.

[thejuggernaut]

Fascinating observation.



The Brett Favre-hits-the-wall-after-11-games theory certainly held true for at least the first week of December. Favre's late-season meltdowns on the turnover front have been almost a given since 2005, and as if on cue, he had his first multiple-pick game of the season (two, with two other potential interceptions dropped) in Sunday night's 30-17 loss at Arizona.

From 2005 on, Favre has thrown 36 interceptions and just 15 touchdowns in the last five games of the regular season, a differential of minus-21. In his first 11 games of those seasons, Favre's touchdown-to-interception differential was a gaudy plus-48, with 99 touchdowns and 51 interceptions. That's a swing of 69 clicks, making it fairly difficult to dismiss as a five-year trend. Or at least a trend of four years and one game.

[NeverSurrender]

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress says linebacker E.J. Henderson is in "good spirits" after having surgery on his broken left leg.

Henderson stayed in intensive care at a Phoenix-area hospital while the rest of his teammates went home Sunday night after a 30-17 loss to the Cardinals.

Childress said Monday that the surgery went well. But the coach was not ready to say when, if ever, Henderson would be able to return to the field. The gruesome nature of the injury shook up Henderson's teammates. Some of them were near tears in the locker room after the game.

The loss of Henderson overshadowed a disappointing performance by the Vikings, who were dominated in every aspect of the game to fall to 10-2 on the season.

I don't think he'll ever play again. He's my favorite player too. how fucking sad.

[Lardbucket]

The Steeler freefall continues.
13-6 loss to the Browns. Wow.

[UtahRatt]

The Steeler freefall continues.
13-6 loss to the Browns. Wow.

How does a defending champ loose to the Quiefs, the Raiduhs, and the Brownies in the same stretch? How the mighty have fallen, it's sad to see I kind of like watching the Steelers represent the AFC in the playoffs.

Polamalu hurts but it's no excuse, putting up 6 on the dawgs is inexcusable.

[Lardbucket]

Of course, the fear now is that the Steelers will wake up and damage the Packers' playoff hopes next week.

[whammybar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJzbIt37FVo

[Crazy Levi]

Washington Redskins have been playing much better since all their useless starters got hurt. I think that bodes well for the future. Fred Davis and D. Thomas have been getting to play and are looking very good.

At this point it wouldn't surprise me if Zorn gets another year.