Killeverything's (New)NeverEndingBaseballThread

[JakeYonkel]

Lackey was Boston's Burnett. They even got paid the same. I'm sure both franchises would love a mulligan on those, except Burnett was actually useful in the '09 playoffs.

[Facedown]

Reports:

Blue Jays sign Octavio Dotel
Phillies sign J.C. Romero
Mets acquire Chin Lung Hu from the Dodgers for a minor league pitcher.

[killeverything]

Yeah, that's almost as bad as signing Luis Vizcaíno and Pedro Feliciano just to say you did something because Lee shunned your offer.

Well, better than being a 3rd place team forced to shell out $150M on Carl Crawford just to compete.

Somewhere in here there's a payroll joke.

Wait

[johnk5150]

Has a manager's kid ever put his job in jeopardy?

Oney Guillen's Tweeting harmful to Sox

Unprofessional slaps at Jenks undermine manager Ozzie Guillen's credibility in clubhouse

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ba ... int.column

[killeverything]

Has a manager's kid ever put his job in jeopardy?

Oney Guillen's Tweeting harmful to Sox

Unprofessional slaps at Jenks undermine manager Ozzie Guillen's credibility in clubhouse

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ba ... int.column

Nah. The Chicago FO is notorious for in-fighting. His kid acted like a jackass ( like father/like son ), but it would surprise me if anything came of it.

Hey, maybe they really piss off Jenks where he has a monster year....

[Machado]

to kill-
how much patience will you have w/papelbon in 2011?
jenks is in the pen.
let's say pap is shaky coming out of the gate.

how long before jenks is called upon my tito or the fans to close games?

[killeverything]

to kill-
how much patience will you have w/papelbon in 2011?
jenks is in the pen.
let's say pap is shaky coming out of the gate.

how long before jenks is called upon my tito or the fans to close games?

It's a nice "problem" to have. But you have to remember the bullpen ( on paper ) in '06 that imploded, or last season's that started out merciless....As long as I don't have to think about Bob Stanley ever again. I'm cool.

See I do still believe that Papelbon should be the closer until he loses the role. He's earned that much. Unfortunately Paps isn't the the most cooked fry in the Happy Meal, so he spouts off some retarded shit to the media, and puts himself in an unlikeable place. Plus let's not forget him "blowing" game 7 against Tampa.

Statistically speaking his numbers trended upwards. Most notably his ERA, his K/9 and BB/9 stayed in the career norms. Maybe he was just unlucky, although with Jenks we can prove that he was victim of circumstance, and resonably expect a "bounce back" season from him.

That said for the BP, it's a nice problem to have.

This is what is setting up Papelbon. Sickening.

[SkyDog112046]

to kill-
how much patience will you have w/papelbon in 2011?
jenks is in the pen.
let's say pap is shaky coming out of the gate.

how long before jenks is called upon my tito or the fans to close games?

It's a nice "problem" to have. But you have to remember the bullpen ( on paper ) in '06 that imploded, or last season's that started out merciless....As long as I don't have to think about Bob Stanley ever again. I'm cool.

See I do still believe that Papelbon should be the closer until he loses the role. He's earned that much. Unfortunately Paps isn't the the most cooked fry in the Happy Meal, so he spouts off some retarded shit to the media, and puts himself in an unlikeable place. Plus let's not forget him "blowing" game 7 against Tampa.

Statistically speaking his numbers trended upwards. Most notably his ERA, his K/9 and BB/9 stayed in the career norms. Maybe he was just unlucky, although with Jenks we can prove that he was victim of circumstance, and resonably expect a "bounce back" season from him.

That said for the BP, it's a nice problem to have.

This is what is setting up Papelbon. Sickening.

Such a big deal is made about closing but the way closers are mostly used they come in for a clean 9th and the game has really been already locked up by the 7th & 8th inning guys. Bard and Jenks will be handling the messy stuff and Papelbon will only need to concentrate on his own inning. That might make him more effective in his role. No 4 out saves, no jams to worry about, just a nice clean 9th for him to come in and get his 3 outs.

[Facedown]

The thing that worries me about Pap is that after blowing that game he said he spent last offseaeson dwelling on it and being motivated by it.
He then came out and had one of his worst years statistically.
I hope he doesn't use last season as motivation or he'll have 6 blown saves before May.

[johnk5150]

to kill-
how much patience will you have w/papelbon in 2011?
jenks is in the pen.
let's say pap is shaky coming out of the gate.

how long before jenks is called upon my tito or the fans to close games?

It's a nice "problem" to have. But you have to remember the bullpen ( on paper ) in '06 that imploded, or last season's that started out merciless....As long as I don't have to think about Bob Stanley ever again. I'm cool.

You think you have a love/hate relationship with Drew? I'll raise you a Bobby Jenks.

[Facedown]

Bartolo Colon says Indians, Rangers and Yankees have shown interest in him.
Yankees say they are not interested in Soriano.
Rays pushing hard for Fuentes.

[JakeYonkel]

Poor Tampa. I think their window has closed if their big free agent prize is Brian Fuentes.

[SkyDog112046]

Poor Tampa. I think their window has closed if their big free agent prize is Brian Fuentes.

It really sucks that a team can draft well and be run the right way and want to compete but is unable to compete because they can't afford to keep the team together. There are certainly teams out there where ownership and the front office doesn't care and just wants to live off revenue sharing, but that doesn't apply to Tampa. This is yet more evidence that either they need to relocate or the league needs a salary cap.

[JakeYonkel]

People cry about the fans in Tampa, blah blah blah... I can tell you firsthand if they relocated that stadium a) out of the ghetto and b) off of St. Petersburg that people would show up.

From where I live (only about 45 minutes east of Tampa) it's almost a 2 hour drive to the ballpark. 45 min to Tampa and then up to an hour just to cross the bay and get through downtown St. Pete on 275. It's ridiculous.

People would come if the location wasn't so awful. Move to Tampa proper.

[SkyDog112046]

People cry about the fans in Tampa, blah blah blah... I can tell you firsthand if they relocated that stadium a) out of the ghetto and b) off of St. Petersburg that people would show up.

From where I live (only about 45 minutes east of Tampa) it's almost a 2 hour drive to the ballpark. 45 min to Tampa and then up to an hour just to cross the bay and get through downtown St. Pete on 275. It's ridiculous.

People would come if the location wasn't so awful. Move to Tampa proper.

I used to do a lot of business in central FL and spent quite a bit of time in between Orlando and St Pete. I always thought it was a pain going into the St Pete airport and tried to book everything through Orlando even if my business was west of Lakeland. I just took a look at the exact location of Trop - who the hell is the idiot who decided to put it at the southern end of the St Pete peninsula? That park should be sitting right off Route 4 on the east side of Tampa so it could draw from all of central FL.

[JakeYonkel]

Bingo... I'm just outside of Lakeland. If they relocated closer to central FL they'd pull from Tampa AND Orlando.

[Facedown]

Orioles sign Derrek Lee.

[killeverything]

to kill-
how much patience will you have w/papelbon in 2011?
jenks is in the pen.
let's say pap is shaky coming out of the gate.

how long before jenks is called upon my tito or the fans to close games?

It's a nice "problem" to have. But you have to remember the bullpen ( on paper ) in '06 that imploded, or last season's that started out merciless....As long as I don't have to think about Bob Stanley ever again. I'm cool.

See I do still believe that Papelbon should be the closer until he loses the role. He's earned that much. Unfortunately Paps isn't the the most cooked fry in the Happy Meal, so he spouts off some retarded shit to the media, and puts himself in an unlikeable place. Plus let's not forget him "blowing" game 7 against Tampa.

Statistically speaking his numbers trended upwards. Most notably his ERA, his K/9 and BB/9 stayed in the career norms. Maybe he was just unlucky, although with Jenks we can prove that he was victim of circumstance, and resonably expect a "bounce back" season from him.

That said for the BP, it's a nice problem to have.

This is what is setting up Papelbon. Sickening.

Such a big deal is made about closing but the way closers are mostly used they come in for a clean 9th and the game has really been already locked up by the 7th & 8th inning guys. Bard and Jenks will be handling the messy stuff and Papelbon will only need to concentrate on his own inning. That might make him more effective in his role. No 4 out saves, no jams to worry about, just a nice clean 9th for him to come in and get his 3 outs.

Bill James wrote about how it's more efficient to use your closer when the game is one the line, as opposed to "save" situations. Makes sense, no one listens.

Unfortunately for Papelbon he couldn't even save in the 9th, yet thinks he should be paid like Rivera. Rivera's God, and you won in '07. There's a HUGE difference.

to kill-
how much patience will you have w/papelbon in 2011?
jenks is in the pen.
let's say pap is shaky coming out of the gate.

how long before jenks is called upon my tito or the fans to close games?

It's a nice "problem" to have. But you have to remember the bullpen ( on paper ) in '06 that imploded, or last season's that started out merciless....As long as I don't have to think about Bob Stanley ever again. I'm cool.

You think you have a love/hate relationship with Drew? I'll raise you a Bobby Jenks.

Nope while 2007 wouldn't have happened if he didn't get so hot and practically carry the offense on his back in June. I still hate the motherfucker and always will. As for Jenks, we'll see.

Orioles sign Derrek Lee.

No shit? Didn't see that coming.

[Facedown]

Red Sox re-sign Okajima to 1yr deal.

[Facedown]

Rockies extend Carlos Gonzalez 7yrs/80mil.

[killeverything]

Angels sign Beltre to 6/96.

Bill Buckner is slated to manage the Brockton Rox Can-Am League.

[Machado]

Angels sign Beltre to 6/96.

Bill Buckner is slated to manage the Brockton Rox Can-Am League.

beltre got 6/96,

that was a waste of money-
wow!!!

[JakeYonkel]

Rangers, not the Angels!

Yeah, stupid move. He'll turn back into the pumpkin he was in Seattle, in all likelihood.

[tin00can]

Hello, Scott Podsednik. Sigh. Although I'm glad the Angels didn't pay that much or commit that many years to Beltre, we're basically going into this season with the same wretched offense as last year and hoping Morales can bounce back.

[WhiteHouseSubsAC]

Podsednik: A fast white Polish guy with a smoking hot wife. What's not to like?

[Facedown]

Nationals sign Adam LaRoche to 2yr deal.
Braves extend Dan Uggla for 5yrs/62mil.
Reds sign Jeremy Hermida to a minor league deal.

[johnk5150]

Podsednik: A fast white Polish guy with a smoking hot wife. What's not to like?

This comes with his shitty baserunning.

[Machado]

Rangers, not the Angels!

Yeah, stupid move. He'll turn back into the pumpkin he was in Seattle, in all likelihood.

Does this mean Michael Young is now out of a job/position in Texas???

So much money being paid for Beltre. Unreal

[killeverything]

Rangers, not the Angels!

Yeah, stupid move. He'll turn back into the pumpkin he was in Seattle, in all likelihood.

Oh shit. I coulda swore it said Angels when I read that yesterday. Yeah, getting him out of a massive hitter's park is gonna make his value decline considerably.

[TawnyVonJagger]

Nationals sign Adam LaRoche to 2yr deal.
Braves extend Dan Uggla for 5yrs/62mil.
Reds sign Jeremy Hermida to a minor league deal.

Yeah. Fuck you, Dan.