The Never Ending MMA thread

[BozoMcMetal]

While I understand people are pissed at the way Anderson behaves, I love him more, the thought of going in with a game plan and being caught in a taunting trap and fucking with your mind is the best part of the fight for me.

He is a smart guy, does not get hurt and when he wants, pulls off amazing fights.

Dana needs to give him a big challenge, hell, make the next UFC an open weight class line up, round the fighters and let them pick who they want to beat the shit out of with.

What's so amazing about not being able to finish a fight? With as much talent and skill as he has, that was embarrassing.

I wanted a good knock out as everyone else Tin, and the prancing around does piss me off a bit, but the fact is that Anderson did finish it, mentally, I'm not dissing Maia and its probably not what everyone wants to watch, but I liked how helpless and cornered Maia felt not knowing what to do against Siva.

If anything, Maia was the contender, and he did not proof himself that much either.

Silva already proved himself, and the fact that he pulls this shit to piss of Dana for not giving him the fights he wants, makes me enjoy it more.

Fear is powerful, then again, I am probably the 0.00000000001 percent that sees it that way.

Agreeance. I've been a Maia nuthugger since he first came to the UFC, but he was not ready for Anderson, and that fight was just as much Maia's fault. You could tell he was scared to death, flinching every time Anderson moved.

[John Simon Ritchie]

IMO, Silva could have stopped that fight at pretty much any point if he really wanted to. Ask Rich Franklin how it feels when Silva really wants a win.
Not sure what's going on in Silva's head right now, but the "pissing off Dana" thing is a definite possibility.
I'd rather watch Silva fight than that boring-ass GSP/Hardy fight that saw GSP just repeatedly tackle Hardy and lay on top of him , unable to finish the fight.

[YYC]

The place where I train was talking to Silva's people about coming in an doing a seminar during the summer. After what happened Saturday, my instructor put the kibosh on it.

[Bidokan]

IMO, Silva could have stopped that fight at pretty much any point if he really wanted to. Ask Rich Franklin how it feels when Silva really wants a win.
Not sure what's going on in Silva's head right now, but the "pissing off Dana" thing is a definite possibility.
I'd rather watch Silva fight than that boring-ass GSP/Hardy fight that saw GSP just repeatedly tackle Hardy and lay on top of him , unable to finish the fight.

Total Agreeance,

Everyone shouting GSP, they got another thing coming when the fight actually happens, which I think it will take a while since now Dana says Silva does not deserve GSP.

GSP is a great fighter, but a text book one, and I see him suffering the same fate as Maia, he could not finish Hardy the way he should have.

[BozoMcMetal]

The place where I train was talking to Silva's people about coming in an doing a seminar during the summer. After what happened Saturday, my instructor put the kibosh on it.

Your trainer is a moron, do you think that's what he would teach in a seminar?

[tin00can]

IMO, Silva could have stopped that fight at pretty much any point if he really wanted to. Ask Rich Franklin how it feels when Silva really wants a win.
Not sure what's going on in Silva's head right now, but the "pissing off Dana" thing is a definite possibility.
I'd rather watch Silva fight than that boring-ass GSP/Hardy fight that saw GSP just repeatedly tackle Hardy and lay on top of him , unable to finish the fight.

Total Agreeance,

Everyone shouting GSP, they got another thing coming when the fight actually happens, which I think it will take a while since now Dana says Silva does not deserve GSP.

GSP is a great fighter, but a text book one, and I see him suffering the same fate as Maia, he could not finish Hardy the way he should have.

Speaking of not finishing...did you watch the Silva fight? At the end of it Maia was taunting Silva, and Silva still couldn't end it. He even got warned by the ref and still couldn't do it. Maia was even getting some punches in at the end. Sure , Silva was in charge for the first two rounds, but the last three didn't do him any favors.

[Bidokan]

IMO, Silva could have stopped that fight at pretty much any point if he really wanted to. Ask Rich Franklin how it feels when Silva really wants a win.
Not sure what's going on in Silva's head right now, but the "pissing off Dana" thing is a definite possibility.
I'd rather watch Silva fight than that boring-ass GSP/Hardy fight that saw GSP just repeatedly tackle Hardy and lay on top of him , unable to finish the fight.

Total Agreeance,

Everyone shouting GSP, they got another thing coming when the fight actually happens, which I think it will take a while since now Dana says Silva does not deserve GSP.

GSP is a great fighter, but a text book one, and I see him suffering the same fate as Maia, he could not finish Hardy the way he should have.

Speaking of not finishing...did you watch the Silva fight? At the end of it Maia was taunting Silva, and Silva still couldn't end it. He even got warned by the ref and still couldn't do it. Maia was even getting some punches in at the end. Sure , Silva was in charge for the first two rounds, but the last three didn't do him any favors.

At the end Maia decided to do what he should have done from the start, Maia is the challenger not Silva, and he didn't proof squat.

As far as finishing fights, Silva hardly tried and with 4 or 5 punches had Maia with on eye shut, cornered and afraid to engage.

GSP on the other hand dryhumped the hell out of hardy all day long, failed to submit him 3 or 4 times and could finish him the way he said he would.

You don't see the difference?

[BD888]

The place where I train was talking to Silva's people about coming in an doing a seminar during the summer. After what happened Saturday, my instructor put the kibosh on it.

You son, are full of shit

[YYC]

The place where I train was talking to Silva's people about coming in an doing a seminar during the summer. After what happened Saturday, my instructor put the kibosh on it.

You son, are full of shit

How so? I'm repeating what I was told, and he's got no reason to lie. He's had Rich Franklin, Shogun, Rafaello Oliveira, and I'm pretty sure Jardine, Kenny Florian, and others come in the past. We've got a guy fighting Houston Alexander in June in Charleston. Everything I've ever heard from the dude is legit. The only one of the seminars I've gone to was for Oliveira because they are usually pretty pricey, and I'm not training to be a fighter, so it's kind of wasted money for me, and the other guys attending are light years from where I'm at. Oliveria was cool as shit though; really down to earth and patient dude, even with somebody as green as myself.

Silva's asking price is in a whole other stratosphere, I'm sure, which to be honest probably plays more into it than anything else, and he said as much, but the classless display at the PPV helped him make up his mind, or so he says.

[tin00can]

At the end Maia decided to do what he should have done from the start, Maia is the challenger not Silva, and he didn't proof squat.

As far as finishing fights, Silva hardly tried and with 4 or 5 punches had Maia with on eye shut, cornered and afraid to engage.

GSP on the other hand dryhumped the hell out of hardy all day long, failed to submit him 3 or 4 times and could finish him the way he said he would.

You don't see the difference?

Whether Maia proved anything is irrelevant. Yes, as the challenger he has to take the fight to the champion, and he did that too late to make a difference, but at least at the end of the fight he DID do it.

Honestly, I think Silva was trying to finish the fight at the end of the fourth round and couldn't do it. He thought the fight would be easier than it was and he blew it. We disagree, but I think he didn't want the fight to end like it did, and I think he looks worse for it.

As for GSP - at least he was trying to do something. I give Hardy a lot of credit in that fight. He refused to be submitted.

And as for pre-fight talk...OK. Yeah, fighters always stick to what they say before a fight.

[BD888]

The place where I train was talking to Silva's people about coming in an doing a seminar during the summer. After what happened Saturday, my instructor put the kibosh on it.

You son, are full of shit

How so? I'm repeating what I was told, and he's got no reason to lie. He's had Rich Franklin, Shogun, Rafaello Oliveira, and I'm pretty sure Jardine, Kenny Florian, and others come in the past. We've got a guy fighting Houston Alexander in June in Charleston. Everything I've ever heard from the dude is legit. The only one of the seminars I've gone to was for Oliveira because they are usually pretty pricey, and I'm not training to be a fighter, so it's kind of wasted money for me, and the other guys attending are light years from where I'm at. Oliveria was cool as shit though; really down to earth and patient dude, even with somebody as green as myself.

Silva's asking price is in a whole other stratosphere, I'm sure, which to be honest probably plays more into it than anything else, and he said as much, but the classless display at the PPV helped him make up his mind, or so he says.

OK, well it just sounds so implausible, like your trainer would make a decision based on one performance to not book arguably the best MMA fighter in the world to do a clinic. But fair enough. Personally, Silva probably isn't a good trainer anyways because he mixes styles so much, that his own style isn't really teachable. I've never trained MMA as such, I trained BJJ with Roger Gracie in London, and I'm training Muay Thai out here in Thailand, I've never learned wrestling or ground and pound in training or anything like that.

[YYC]

I've never trained MMA as such, I trained BJJ with Roger Gracie in London, and I'm training Muay Thai out here in Thailand, I've never learned wrestling or ground and pound in training or anything like that.

Kurt Pellegrino was another guy we had in recently, I forgot about him. From what I heard his clinic was pretty bad-ass.

How do you like Muay Thai? We don't do a ton of it, mainly just some clinch work and such, but I dig what little we have done. Right before I joined up my place had a Muay Thai instructor but he moved. We spend a lot of time on groundwork: BJJ, ground and pound, and wrestling, along with a fair amount of stand-up. My BJJ is terrible (as compared to the rest of my game, which is only bad), but I'm getting better little by little. I'd love to go to a Gracie clinic, just to see one of those guys in action up close.

[BD888]

I've never trained MMA as such, I trained BJJ with Roger Gracie in London, and I'm training Muay Thai out here in Thailand, I've never learned wrestling or ground and pound in training or anything like that.

Kurt Pellegrino was another guy we had in recently, I forgot about him. From what I heard his clinic was pretty bad-ass.

How do you like Muay Thai? We don't do a ton of it, mainly just some clinch work and such, but I dig what little we have done. Right before I joined up my place had a Muay Thai instructor but he moved. We spend a lot of time on groundwork: BJJ, ground and pound, and wrestling, along with a fair amount of stand-up. My BJJ is terrible (as compared to the rest of my game, which is only bad), but I'm getting better little by little. I'd love to go to a Gracie clinic, just to see one of those guys in action up close.

Muay Thai is great, it's very aggressive, not like other stand ups striking that I dabbled in such as Taek Won Do, Karate, and boxing (very little experience). What I found strange at first is that there is a lot of work on body control, trips and even throws which I was not expecting. I haven't got used to the heat in Thailand though, I feel like my face and chest are going to explode sometimes.

[KillDevilHill]

Strikeforce on CBS is tonight.

Three pretty big fights all with ranked fighters minus King Mo

Champ Jake Shields vs. Dan Henderson (for middleweight title)
This has epic beatdown with highlight KO written all over it, but so did lawler shields. I still think Hendo gets a knock out in the 2nd, dont see shields getting this to the ground other then pulling guard. Hopefully Shields ends up in the UFC WW division after this is said and done.

Champ Gilbert Melendez vs. Shinya Aoki (for Strikeforce lightweight title)
Considering the unbeatable at LW BJ Penn is no longer the number one LW in the world this fight is huge. Aoki, despite him being a cunt of a human and a cry baby, is one of my favorite fighters to watch. Melendez is game fer sure though, he isnt an elite striker but miles above aoki's striking. Melendez has good enough wrestling to stop aoki from taking him down in conventional ways. First time aoki has been pantless since his shooto days, we will see how that plays out.
Aoki second round sub

Champ Gegard Mousasi vs. Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal (for light heavyweight title)
Mousasi is quickly becoming one of the best fighters in the world, but isnt exactly too far removed from winning in almost fluke like fashion against jacare and Kang. He is a differnt fighter now, but I am calling an upset in this one. King Mo by first round KO

[BozoMcMetal]

Lots of things going through my head at once so I'll just make 1 point about each fight.

1. King Mo proves again that control>damage in MMA judging. Gegard will be back, and Mo will go nowhere without a gas tank.

2. Aoki got completely clowned, and Melendez is the #2 or 3 LW in the world.

3. Dan Henderson has been fighting for about 15 years now, and he still doesn't have a gas tank. I hope Jake Pillow Hands Lay and Pray Shields comes to the UFC and gets exposed by anyone with a ground game and good striking.

And that bullshit with Mayhem, fuck all the Cesar Gracie guys. They're all thugs and that shit shouldn't be on national TV. I hope it doesn't get mainstream media attention and get SF booted from CBS.

[BD888]

Hendo looked noticeably drained in that fight, looks like he changed something in his training or diet, he didn't look like the fighter that fought Bisping.

That brawl at the end looked like something out of WWE.

I expect to see Shields and Mousasi in the UFC soon.

[BD888]

Hendo looked noticeably drained in that fight, looks like he changed something in his training or diet, he didn't look like the fighter that fought Bisping.

That brawl at the end looked like something out of WWE.

I expect to see Shields and Mousasi in the UFC soon.

Maybe Hendo cut too much weight. He was wrecking him in the first round and I was hoping he'd win. But then blanket boy worked his usual magic and bored us to death for 20 minutes. Here's a video of Mayhem including his amusing weigh in:


Mayhem at Strikeforce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_CcMDWjdls

He's certainly a character.

I imagine if his next fight is free on tv, it will be a huge draw for casual fans.

[YYC]

Houston Alexander had a clinic at the place where I train today. I didn't go, but I did meet him briefly afterward ( I was going to a Krav seminar that followed it instead) and he seemed like a really nice dude. He stood around signing autographs and taking pics for well past his scheduled time, which is cool. I talked to some of our fighters who went, and they said he was cool, but he really didn't teach anybody a whole lot. They did about an hour of conditioning stuff, then worked standup. Everybody attending got to spar with him for about 15 seconds each, and during the course of that he earned some bad heat from a lot of the dudes there. Apparently when he was sparring with one of the guys (this dude isn't even a fighter; he's a kettle bell instructor) Houston ducked a punch and then suplexed the dude on his head. The guy's okay, but it gave everybody a scare. From what I was told this was completely out of the blue, and nobody was expecting takedowns, and it was sort of bad form on his behalf.

More importantly, though, I am now less than six degrees of seperation from Hugh Hefner:

#1 I train with a dude who is fighting Alexander
#2 Alexander was in the UFC with Chuck Lidell
#3 Chuck Lidell was in that Nickelback video ("Rockstar") with that Kendra chick
#4 Kendra, of course was Hef's

I'm expecting my invite to the Playboy Mansion any day now.

[BozoMcMetal]

Houston Alexander had a clinic at the place where I train today. I didn't go, but I did meet him briefly afterward ( I was going to a Krav seminar that followed it instead) and he seemed like a really nice dude. He stood around signing autographs and taking pics for well past his scheduled time, which is cool. I talked to some of our fighters who went, and they said he was cool, but he really didn't teach anybody a whole lot. They did about an hour of conditioning stuff, then worked standup. Everybody attending got to spar with him for about 15 seconds each, and during the course of that he earned some bad heat from a lot of the dudes there. Apparently when he was sparring with one of the guys (this dude isn't even a fighter; he's a kettle bell instructor) Houston ducked a punch and then suplexed the dude on his head. The guy's okay, but it gave everybody a scare. From what I was told this was completely out of the blue, and nobody was expecting takedowns, and it was sort of bad form on his behalf.

More importantly, though, I am now less than six degrees of seperation from Hugh Hefner:

#1 I train with a dude who is fighting Alexander
#2 Alexander was in the UFC with Chuck Lidell
#3 Chuck Lidell was in that Nickelback video ("Rockstar") with that Kendra chick
#4 Kendra, of course was Hef's

I'm expecting my invite to the Playboy Mansion any day now.

That's a shock.

[tripsgirl]

Probably get shut down(hockey is on right now)but here
is a link to WEC Aldo vs. Faber...

http://www.livesport21.com/71.html

[roxxxtar]

Faber didn't even look like he was in the same league as Aldo. Did Faber even ever hit the guy?
I think they should call up Randy and Bill Mulkey to give Faber some pointers.

[mullet_head]

I thought the Zombie was gonna win.

[roxxxtar]

I thought the Zombie was gonna win.

The Zombie did win. Even the crowd thought so. The judges screwed up again as far as I'm concerned. I hate to agree with Rogan, but that was probably the best fight I've ever seen as far as two dudes just beating the crap out of each other.

[mullet_head]

I thought the Zombie was gonna win.

The Zombie did win. Even the crowd thought so. The judges screwed up again as far as I'm concerned. I hate to agree with Rogan, but that was probably the best fight I've ever seen as far as two dudes just beating the crap out of each other.

Yeah I thought he was superior in every round and was landing shots more consistently, but what the hell. The judges probably though "ain't no way in hell we're gonna give the win to a zipper head".

[tin00can]

I didn't watch the PPV - didn't feel like paying for WEC - but I'm glad Faber lost. Can the WEC blow that guy any more? Every time he fights he fights in Sacramento, his home town. I get that he's a good-looking dude and they're trying to get some women to watch, but seriously - he's not that good any more.

[DrLoveMunster]

I didn't watch the PPV

You should download it, from the prelims to the main card, it was easily card of the year.

[mullet_head]

I didn't watch the PPV

You should download it, from the prelims to the main card, it was easily card of the year.

No shit! I can't remember the last time I saw a card that good, be it UFC, Strikeforce, WEC...

Even being WEC it would be money well spent, nothing like that UFC 112 bullshit.

Anyway it's on piratebay, that's why I watched it.

[KillDevilHill]

I thought the Zombie was gonna win.

The Zombie did win. Even the crowd thought so. The judges screwed up again as far as I'm concerned. I hate to agree with Rogan, but that was probably the best fight I've ever seen as far as two dudes just beating the crap out of each other.

No they didnt, they cheered and only booed when The zombie threw his hat and got on his knees. He was robbed but the crowd didnt think so

[Bidokan]

The zombie fight was a good one, he got robbed,

The other good fight of the night was the british and the black guy, cannot recall their names.

Aldo pulled an Anderson Silva IMO, and again, I loved it, Faber could not stand and had to be carried by that chink faggot trapped in a bad 80's breakdance movie.

[BD888]

Shogun or Machida?

I say Shogun.